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Terrorists Want Bush To Win  
User currently offlineSFOintern From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 770 posts, RR: 5
Posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

The main argument many have for voting for Bush is that he's tough on terrorists and he's the best choice for a good national security. However, he's the one the terrorists want come November. Come on, America! Wake up and smell the coffee! Bush has totally undermined America's position in the world community and chipped away at our security.

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=478050§ion=news

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Purported al Qaeda letter calls truce in Spain
Wed March 17, 2004 04:59 PM ET

By Opheera McDoom
CAIRO (Reuters) - A group claiming to have links with al Qaeda says it is calling a truce in its Spanish operations to see if the new Madrid government would withdraw its troops from Iraq, a pan-Arab newspaper says.

In a statement sent to the Arabic language daily al-Hayat, the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, which claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombings that killed 201 people, also urged its European units to stop all operations.

"Because of this decision, the leadership has decided to stop all operations within the Spanish territories... until we know the intentions of the new government that has promised to withdraw Spanish troops from Iraq," the statement said.

"And we repeat this to all the brigades present in European lands: Stop all operations."

Scepticism has greeted previous claims of responsibility by the group for attacks in Turkey and Iraq. U.S. officials say its links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network are unclear.

An unrelated videotape of a man describing himself as al Qaeda's European military spokesman also claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombing, saying it was in retaliation for outgoing Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar's domestically-unpopular support for the U.S.-led Iraq war.

In a shock election result three days after the Madrid bombs, Spain voted in the Socialist party, which has since said it will probably withdraw its troops from Iraq.

"The Spanish people... chose peace by choosing the party that was against the alliance with America," the statement said.

WE WANT BUSH TO WIN

The statement said it supported U.S. President George W. Bush in his reelection campaign, and would prefer him to win in November rather than the Democratic candidate John Kerry, as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than you (Bush), who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom."

In comments addressed to Bush, the group said:

"Kerry will kill our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and Muslim nation as civilisation."

"Because of this we desire you (Bush) to be elected."

The group said its cells were ready for another attack and time was running out for allies of the United States.

"Whose turn is it next? Will it be Japan or America, or Italy, Britain or Oslo or Australia?" the statement said, adding Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were also targets.

The group is named after Muhammed Atef, also known as Abu Hafs, a close bin Laden aide killed in the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan.


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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39860 posts, RR: 74
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1529 times:

This doesn't suprise me. George W Bush and his people are cut from the same cloth as these Islamic terrorist groups. The Bush gang is just a Christian version.
Isn't this supposed to be how it all plays out in the Bible in the end?







Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1525 times:

"Come on, America! Wake up and smell the coffee! Bush has totally undermined America's position in the world community and chipped away at our security."

I see you got the slogan part covered, now all we need is some weed and we've got ourselves a peace rally!  Smokin cool

Yup, nothing like saving the rain forest to kick off the rally season.


LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1524 times:

Why is there an AK-74 under the U.S. Dollar in the picture? Shouldn't it be an M-16 instead?

LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlinePhxairfan From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 811 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1516 times:

Wow, saying that President Bush is cut from the same cloth as terrorists that kill innocent people by strapping bombs to themselves or flying planes into buildings. That's pretty dang low my friend. In fact that's probably the single most outlandish thing I've seen said on these forums. For some reason I don't see any Christians strapping c4 to themselves and blowing up Motel 6's.

User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39860 posts, RR: 74
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1508 times:

Phxairfan:
For some reason I don't see any Christians strapping c4 to themselves and blowing up Motel 6's.

True but we do have God on our side to kill the Arabs right?  Yeah sure



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1505 times:

For some reason I don't see any Christians strapping c4 to themselves and blowing up Motel 6's.


No, just abortion clinics.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineIlikeYYC From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1495 times:

"Because of this decision, the leadership has decided to stop all operations within the Spanish territories... until we know the intentions of the new government that has promised to withdraw Spanish troops from Iraq," the statement said.

Hmm...Does the name Neville Chaimberlain and the word 'appeasement' come to mind?? Come on people! The terrorists are winning and if we don't stand up for what is right, we will be a bunch of cowards under Osamma's thumb (if not dead).

And while I am frustrated with the situation in Iraq today, I still support Bush because he is trying to do the right thing. It is too easy for me, or for anyone out there to be and armchair quarterback and be overly critical of the efforts made to rebuild an entire country especially when you and I have never been over there and experienced the dire need for order in a community where its hard to tell between those who support you and those who want to kill you (and I'm not talking about race).

Stand up for what is right, or else you will fall for what is wrong.






Fighting Absurdity with Absurdity!
User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8236 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1494 times:

Why is there an AK-74 under the U.S. Dollar in the picture? Shouldn't it be an M-16 instead?

I was just gunna post those exact words. What gives, man?

No, just abortion clinics.

Those aren't christians, those are just friggen pshycos who think they're christians.



This Website Censors Me
User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1491 times:

Yeah, Dubya is trying to do the right thing, but remember the road to Hell was paved with good intentions.

DLKAPA


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14011 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1483 times:

Guys, I wish you would read some history!

What Neville Chamberlain was doing with his appeasement plitics was to gain time.In both Britain and France, as well as the US the military became quite unpopular after the horrors of WW1 and were greatly reduced. from 1933 Germany on the other hand rearmed and built up it´s forces,some of it secretly. The democratic countries only realised this during the Spanish Civil War, when they saw German and Italian troops in action. They were esp. shocked by the German Luftwaffe. From about 1937 Britain had a rearmament programme running, Hurricanes and Spitfires were ordered off the drawing board, but didn´t arrive fast enough. Still in 1940 during the battle of Britain the situation was shaky. Chamberlain knew in 1938 that his military wouldn´t stand a chance against the Wehrmacht.

Jan


User currently offlineTYSGoVols From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 634 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1464 times:

No this not how it plays out in the bible. In the end times there will be wars and teh rummors of wars. There will be an attack on Israel, by a someone tha tlies to the north of the country at least as most biblical schoplars believe. As far as Christians blowing up genocide clinics. Those people are on the fringe are not supported by ANY mainline denomination that I am aware of. Most churches condem such actions as being sinful. Protesting and educating people is the way the vast majority of Chrisitans handle the mass genocide of the unborn. I just love how some of you choose not to even ask someone about Christianity rather you just form an opinion based on extremist actions.

<>< Garen



Rocky Top You'll Always be home sweet home to me, Good ole' Rocky Top WOOOOO
User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

"I just love how some of you choose not to even ask someone about Christianity rather you just form an opinion based on extremist actions."

You know the situation is bad when a supposedely mainstream Christian calls abortion clinics "genocide clinics". Anyhoo TYSGoVols, you seem knowlegeable on the subject of abortion and Christianity, so here are two questions for you:

1. How many abortions are performed in the U.S. a year (on average)?

2. How many of these victims of genocide are you willing and able to accomodate, love and raise in your own household in place of their biological parents?


LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39860 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

...and the self proclaimed 'Biblical experts' here failed to acknowledge that the terrorist strapping bombs to themselves are also a "fringe" group that doesn't represent Islam accuratly.  Insane


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineTYSGoVols From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 634 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

My own home happens to be a dorm room and per university of Tennessee rules cannot be occupied by a non-student. now my samrt alek moment is over. We have destroyed I believe teh last figure that I heard was about 14,000,000 human lives through the mass genocide. Yes it is genocide.

As to answer you other question these excerpts were taken from



What about the population boom? We can hardly feed the people of the world now!

True, the population of the world is growing, but population is not much of a problem in the United States. With a birth every 8 seconds and a death every 11 seconds, the U.S. population is growing at less than one percent per year. (www.census.gov)

How many couples are waiting?

There are about two million couples waiting. Furthermore, each of these couples would want two or three, if available. Many will take hard-to-place children with special needs. Bachrach et al., "On the Path to Adoption"

<>< Garen





Rocky Top You'll Always be home sweet home to me, Good ole' Rocky Top WOOOOO
User currently offlineQb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1430 times:

I agree with this thread title, but not exactly for the reason mentioned by the terrorist leader.

Al-Qaida needs Bush the same way, if you will, the Mafia needs the police and the police needs the Mafia. It's a symbiosis: they need each other to exist. One's existence depends on the other. Without the Mafia or mobs or gangsters, a police force would be useless. Without a police force, the world would be out of control and the criminals would have a hard time having any king of meaningful activity because of the anarchy that would result.

Bush needs Al-Qaida because it gives him a goal, an objective, a target, a political platform. Al-Qaida needs Bush as a representation of all evil the Western world could provide and to supply them with other desperate souls: each time Bush kills an Arab, five are lining-up to become human bombs.

If I was OBL, I'd pray for a Bush re-election.



Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39860 posts, RR: 74
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1420 times:

I can't wait for John Kerry to become President!
I am sick of this drama between these two rich oil families.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

..."I am sick of this drama between these two rich oil families."...

My my Superfly.. What on earth are you ensuing here?  Big grin



Caution wake turbulence, you are following a heavy jet.
User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1397 times:

well i was about to post how much i agree with the topic etc, but thanks to qb001 i do not have to type all the stuff, since his police and mafia analogy and other arguments kind of hit the nail on the head.


10=2
User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39860 posts, RR: 74
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1389 times:

My my MD11LuxuryLinr, here are some links you may want to go over. I doubt you'll here about this on fox.

http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/25/feature3.shtml

http://www.bushnews.com/bushmoney.htm

http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_07_01/Bush___Bin_Laden_-_George_W__B/bush___bin_laden_-_george_w__b.html

http://www.rense.com/general14/bushsformer.htm


http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/05/news/companies/war_bechtel/




Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

Tired old tripe. Why not display the entire wish list of these people beginning with: extermination or conversion of kafir (non-Muslims), extermination of apostates (Shia and Sufi), and so on...

No one needs al-Qaeda but al-Qaeda. Bush does not need an al-Qaeda. He campaigned on a platform that focused almost exclusively on US domestic issues.


User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

Yeah Superfly, I'm all too familiar to this type of info about our "blessed" President. The guy can do no wrong, eh?  Big thumbs up


Caution wake turbulence, you are following a heavy jet.
User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

"He campaigned on a platform that focused almost exclusively on US domestic issues."

and what about the upcoming election?
did you already forget the 9/11 pictures in his ads? and his emphasis on the war on terror?
without al-quaeda and 9-11 bush would not have gotten reelected due to the simple fact that enron and all the other scandals that he was involved in would have gotten coverage.



10=2
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1361 times:

without al-quaeda and 9-11 bush would not have gotten reelected

Hey, hold on a bit. He's not reelected yet! And hopefully won't be.

And I agree with qb001 that al-Qaeda needs Bush just as Bush needs them. If there wasn't a bad guy to go after and a war to hide behind when the questions about why the defecit is the way is come up, Bush would have his feet to the fire right about now. However, I think al-Qaeda can survive without Bush better than the other way around.

Cheers,

Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1344 times:

oh yes my bad, what i wanted to say is chance at getting reelected  Smile



10=2
25 Jwenting : and the daily Bush-bash from the same old fools is underway again... Of course the terrorists SAY they want Bush to win the elections. It's simple psy
26 Qb001 : Kerry might even go further and help Al Qaeda take control back over Afghanistan and Iraq (after all, the US took it away from Al Qaeda illegally righ
27 Cba : In the words of John Kerry, "Bush is running on national security because he doesn't have anything else to run on."
28 LY744 : "Al-Qaida needs Bush the same way, if you will, the Mafia needs the police and the police needs the Mafia. It's a symbiosis: they need each other to e
29 N79969 : Bush, Blair and the rest did not lie...get over it. There are still WMD that remain unaccounted for. There is a difference between acting on incorrect
30 Post contains images Klaus : One of the main scare arguments to bully the population into the war was the "nucular" connection to Nigeria which both Blair and Bush at that time kn
31 Post contains images MD11LuxuryLinr : Aww, C'mon Klaus. It wasn't a lie. There is WMD, we just haven found them yet! 'Operation Iraqi Freedom'.. What a joke. The good old US of A could've
32 Post contains images Klaus : MD11LuxuryLinr: Aww, C'mon Klaus. It wasn't a lie. There is WMD, we just haven found them yet! Hmyeah... If only our magical mirror was working proper
33 Baw2198 : Ok polititians are all crooks lets face it. Now has come the time to chose the next one, and literally we are choosing the LESSER of the two evils, sa
34 Aerorobnz : LOL Superfly you crack me up. It is sad that people seem so willing to take what they are told without question. It reminds me of 'The Idiots are taki
35 LY744 : "In the words of John Kerry, "Bush is running on national security because he doesn't have anything else to run on."" That is extremely ironic. Althou
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