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Have You Ever Been A Scab?  
User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

Just wondering if anyone has ever been a scab during a strike. Were the striking workers aggressive toward you? Any violence or threats?


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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16370 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1106 times:

I have immense respect for so-called scabs. They are simply hard working individuals who are offering their labour for a fair salary. I prefer to call them "freedom workers". The true "scabs" are the lazy militant striking union members.

I have never been a "freedom worker". However, I did once cross a picket line when visiting a customer unrelated to the strike outside the bldg. A couple of verbal insults quickly addressed by my middle finger. That's all.






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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1101 times:

They are simply hard working individuals who are offering their labour for a fair salary.

What happens if the fair salary isn't fair?


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1096 times:

Come on, scabs sounds so much cooler... "freedom worker"? sounds too much like a peta/greenpeace/aclu/hippie term...

But I agree, the striking workers are usually crying about benefits/salary they shouldn't be entitled to in the first place and wouldn't be if not for a union. Scabs are usually friendlier and do not have the same sense of entitlement as the union/striking workers.


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16370 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1098 times:

What happens if the fair salary isn't fair?

Then the unionized workers are free to take their skill set to the market place and get a better paying job elsewhere. It's called capitalism.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1090 times:

Then the unionized workers are free to take their skill set to the market place and get a better paying job elsewhere. It's called capitalism.

So you're saying that sometimes the salary ISN'T fair?

Which makes your original post wrong, and it SHOULD read: "They are simply hard working individuals who are offering their labour for a salary that isn't always fair"?

What happens if the salaries of all the jobs (for example, university lecturers in the UK) are controlled by a cartel of all the employers (for example, the universities.)

What should the workers do then?


User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1091 times:

I'm with YYZ, scabs are freedom workers, they are the true representatives of capitalism by working for market value. They are the people that know that if they are so unhappy with their conditions or compensation they can go take their skill elsewhere. Unions have ruined manufacturing in America, not only are our products inferior thanks to unions, but they are not worth the price (cars, for example).


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1081 times:

They are the people that know that if they are so unhappy with their conditions or compensation they can go take their skill elsewhere.

What about my example above?

Unions have ruined manufacturing in America, not only are our products inferior thanks to unions, but they are not worth the price (cars, for example).

Yet cars in Europe - where we're much more socialist - are much better.


User currently offlineNorth County From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 712 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1069 times:


Yes, I am saving my pennies for one of them fine EURAPEINGN' Yugos built by fine union workers managed by their pinko government!

I wonder who did the Yugo interiors?

Could it have be the same design house that was featured in the Wendy's Hamburgers Russian fashion shows ads of the 1980's. (Evening wear brought out the flashlights.)


User currently offline777YYC From Canada, joined May 2000, 744 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1061 times:

Being a proud Union member, who used to work in a non-union grocery store, I can say that I would never be a scab and never cross a picket line. Scabs undermine the bargaining position of hard-working union members fighting for fair wages, benefits and working conditions from profit-crazed, blood thirsty corporations. The difference between the non-union store I used to be in and the union one I'm in now is night and day.



User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1035 times:

Yet cars in Europe - where we're much more socialist - are much better.

Why are you bringing socialism into the equation? Unions in Europe are far different than unions in North America, the managerial units in Europe are already much more collectivist minded than the individualist managers in the United States and Canada.

What about my example above?

University lecturers are the lowest denominator of professions with Ph.D's. The reason why these people are stuck making $30k a year is because A) they are already rich, and don't need a serious job B) they can't do anything with their Ph.D. C--and most rarely) they like teaching.

Scabs undermine the bargaining position of hard-working union members fighting for fair wages, benefits and working conditions from profit-crazed, blood thirsty corporations.

Fair wages? $12.00CAD to bag groceries and stock shelves? Sorry, but its a very unskilled profession (I used to work at a grocery store as well). Its called fair market value, its a job anyone with two hands and an IQ of 60 can do. If Joe Blow is 43 years old and still needs to work at a grocery store, he really needs to reevaluate his life.

Profit-crazed corporations? If it wasn't for the corporation NEEDING to make a profit, you'd be out of a job.






America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16370 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

Scabs undermine the bargaining position of hard-working union members fighting for fair wages, benefits and working conditions from profit-crazed, blood thirsty corporations.

On the contrary, freedom workers highlight the inherent laziness, non-productiveness and inefficiency of unionized staff.

Long live the freedom worker in bringing common sense, flexibility and efficiency to overburdened mgmt and owners. Bravo!




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