Lan_Fanatic From Chile, joined Sep 2001, 1071 posts, RR: 6 Posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2392 times:
I've been wondering why some states of the US have as capital city a small or not very important city.
Why isn't LA the capital of California instead of Sacramento?
Why isn't Miami the capital of Florida instead of Tallahasee?
Why isn't New York City the capital of the New York state instead of Albany?
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 69 Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2347 times:
Don't they teach history anymore? For example, what were the significant cities way back when the state entered the union?
How about economics? Here's a great idea; move the CA capitol to LA and the NY capitol to NYC and bankrupt both states buying wildly inflated real estate on which to put the millions of square feet of government offices.
Better idea: Move California's capitol to Brasilia where it would have less opportunity for mischief and political aggression against neighboring states.
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DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7719 posts, RR: 17 Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2339 times:
The initial settlement in California occured in the Sacramento and San Juaquin valleys as well as the San Francisco bay area. Hence why Sacramento became capital.
When Florida became a state much of south Florida was an unpopulated wetland. Most of the settlement was in the northern part of the state.
As many states were founded a neutral central site was sought for the capital. Hence Columbus, OH, Indianpolis, IN, Springfield, IL, Madison, WI and so on. In some cases there were already larger more established cities, other cases there were not.
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Seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 10724 posts, RR: 16 Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2326 times:
Boise and Salt Lake City are understandable given the history of those areas: Salt Lake is where the Mormons settled and Boise was the eastern edge of the Oregon Territory and where the eastern federal offices were back in the 1800s. However, none of that explains Olympia, Juneau, and Salem. I have lived in this area most of my life and I still have no idea why those were important.
Historically, the capitol of Washington should either be Seattle or Vancouver: In Seattle, Henry Yesler set up his logging operation and the ships sailed from Elliot Bay for the Yukon gold fields. The British set up a fort in Vancouver: The remains of which are still here and there is still a small US Army base here.
The original territorial capital of Oregon was Oregon City, just south of Portland. This is also the official end of the Oregon Trail. From there, the pioneers would either set up there or head down the valley or closer to Ft. Vancouver. The Oregon Trail also split in The Dalles and that was also the county seat of the west side of Wasco County (Boise was the east county seat) so even The Dalles would make sense as the capital of Oregon.
If memory serves, the origional territorial capital of Alaska was Sitka but it was moved east after statehood to Juneau and people have been trying to move it north closer to Anchorage ever since. I have been to Juneau and there really is no reason for the town to be there other than the government.
Lan_Fanatic From Chile, joined Sep 2001, 1071 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2311 times:
Hey SlamClick cool down. I was just asking this, because I thought there could be some similarities in capital naming between the US and Chile.
Chile is divided in 13 regions, and the capital of each region is the largest (or was the largest) or most important city in that region when "regionalisation" was made back in the 70s.
Startvalve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2284 times:
wow Jean Leloup found the post button in his browser window, I am very impressed.
Simply because those cities were more signifigant when the state entered the union. Just because a city is large does not mean it should be the capital.
Austin is the capital of Texas, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio were barely wide spots on the road when Texas joined the union. then again Austin was too, but it was pretty central to the whole state, at least from a population standpoint and it is still central to the population of Texas.
Safe bet most of the population of Miami can't vote since it is not here legally anyway so I doubt most of that population really counts from the standpoint of government.
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53 Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2278 times:
In some cases history and geography combine to create the answer. In Pennsylvania, Harrisburg was selected as the permanent state capital because it is more centrally located than either of the two big cities in the state, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh (although Harrisburg is closer to Philly than Pittsburgh)...and also this avoids having a city rivalry between Philly and Pittsburgh by picking a neutral site...
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Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 47 Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2263 times:
Also the state capitals are often holdovers from colonial or territorial seats of government.
Separation of the capital city from the largest city also is a general way of assuring that the most powerful economic force in the state does not consolidate with the political forces that rule the state. In today's world, with our quick transportation, that isn't as much of a separation any more, but back in the olden days a trip from Cleveland, OH, to Columbus, OH, would have taken several days and only people who really needed to would have made the trip.
Garnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5313 posts, RR: 53 Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2251 times:
In some cases, people have no clue what the capital of a state is. You ask many people what the capital of South Carolina is and they, for some reason, are certain it's Charleston. In SC's case, Charleston was once the capital, but residents of the Upstate needing to do governmental business couldn't really make the trip to the Lowcountry so a site roughly in the middle of the state was chosen and Columbia was built as a planned city to serve as the center of government.
South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5526 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2198 times:
Let's not forget that many state capitals ARE the largest and most significant cities in their respective states.
Salt Lake City
Three possible cases are Hartford, Richmond and Nashville.
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Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39425 posts, RR: 76 Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2173 times:
USAFHummer: Sad but true...my friends here at college are awestruck that I know the state capitals, and I just plain feel sorry for them, but its no secret that America generally sucks at geography...
I totally know what you mean man. I love geography!
When I was in elementary school, my school considered me skipping the 3 rd grade because I knew all of my state capitals when I was in 2nd grade.
All my mother did was bought me an atlas and a globe and suddenly I was ahead of my entire class.
My second grade teacher swore up and down that Connecticut bordered New Jersey. I kept telling her she was wrong and almost got in trouble for it. What's even sadder is that the class was poking fun at me as if I was the idiot!
I agree with you but I would only give Lan_Fanatic $h!t if he were here in the United States because in that case he should know better. Cut him some slack because he is in Chile and there schools probably doesn’t cover that detail of our government.
PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5526 posts, RR: 5 Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2159 times:
PROSA: Largest city in Connecticut is Bridgeport, largest city in Virginia is Virginia Beach, largest city in Tennessee is Memphis.
Bridgeport has more people within city limits, but Hartford's metropolitan area is considerably larger. In terms of economic importance within Connecticut, it's probably a tossup between Hartford and Stamford, maybe a slight edge to the latter.
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Lan_Fanatic From Chile, joined Sep 2001, 1071 posts, RR: 6 Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2132 times:
Well, the lack of geography knowledge happens here in Chile too. The majority of my ex classmates didn't know either the regional capitals of Chile. Or worse, they didn't know the capital cities of certain South American countries.
Or even worse...most people tend to confuse Switezerland with Sweden, as their names in spanish are a bit similar (Suiza and Suecia).
And about problems with teachers...I had one. My teacher was asking..."If it is july, and I'm in Brazil, which season of the year it is?" And a classmate said "summer". Of course she was unconsciously wrong, and the teacher told her "go to the library and get an atlas inmediatley and learn all the countries that are in the southern hemisphere!" Then I stood up and told to the teacher: "Miss Pezoa, I think Claudia (my classmate) is quite right. Brazil has a portion in the northern hemisphere, therefore it is summer in july". Then I got the same punishment....and never fought back.
25 N863DA: RE: Florida... Florida's Capitol is Tallahassee because, at the time that it was picked, the two largest cities in the state were Pensacola (in the We
26 Sleekjet: Austin, Texas was named Waterloo until renamed for the "Father of Texas", Stephen F. Austin. Somehow, "Waterloo" has a different ring to it. There is
27 STT757: New York City might not be the Capital of New York State, but NYC was the First US Capital. I think the reasons why big States have small Cities/towns
28 QANTAS747-438: Los Angeles wasn't anything in 1850 when California became a state. Like it's been said, tons and tons of settlers stayed in the Sacramento area after
29 Superfly: QANTAS747-438: Is correct. Also that Pasadena Freeway (110) is very fun to drive on. You better have a lot of low end tourqe to peel out on those sma