Rsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2 Posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1833 times:
Well after spending a hour + in front of the tele tonight listening to the Bush press conference all's I can say is......I want my hour back.
This conference was in typical Bush style. Bush used his typical one liners and seemed to repeat the same things over and over again. There just seems to be no exit plan for Iraq. While he was trying to show a compassionate side for the family's who have had there military children die while serving in Iraq he still seemed evasive and slightly arrogant on other issues. Still Bush did not say enough to satisfy me.
I think I would have preferred to have had him explain the state of his set economic polices. I would like to have heard him explain how sending jobs to India is good for America or why most displaced workers are returning to work making much less than they did.
Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4521 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1779 times:
(I voted for it before I voted against it)
Yet another example of someone who has bought an out of context quote without attempting to get the whole story.
What Kerry SAID was that he VOTED FOR an amendment to the 87 billion bill. when that amendment was defeated, he then voted against the 87 billion in protest of Bush's handling and execution of the war. Had that amendment passed, he would have voted for it.
bush can fun his war by repealing the tax cuts for the rich. Defeated. And as a result of that defeat, the bill is added to the deficit, which, we have to pay off sometime.
Your man Bush is gonna have to raise taxes on someone, eventually, or we're going to reach a deficit so huge we may default on it. Do you know what happens when a deficit of these proportions id defaulted on? the dollar loses value overnight. I.E. a market crash the likes of which haven't ever been seen. The great depression comes close, defaulting on a 7 trillion deficit would be worse.
So, Kerry voted for an amendment to the bill. when it was defeated, he voted against the bill. Then he made the mistake of saying this:
"So in a sense you could say, I actually voted for the 87 billion, before I voted against it".
He didn't realize that he had given the Bush campaign the golden soundbite they wanted. All they had to do was snip a little here, snip a little there, and bada-bing, you've got a quote that makes him look like a flip flopper. And you know what? It worked, perfectly. A majority of americans think he's a flip-flopper. Goddammit. That was his fault too, he should have thought about how that could be taken out of context. Nevertheless, it just gives me a reason to fight harder to inform people about him.
Problem is, Bushies like yourself that I've spoken to in person won't let me finish a sentence. Kinda goes like this:
them: "You say Kerry 'I voted for it before I voted against it' is not a flip flopper?"
me: that's totally out of context though, if you read the entire---
them: "I heard it! I saw it with my own two eyes!"
me: You saw a clipping of..
them: (interrupting) Whatever, spin it if you want, I SAW it, they can't lie about it, I SAW it!
You see, you won't listen. You're so damn gullible you won't listen when people try and present the full story.
Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4521 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1766 times:
I have conservative values. Shocking, huh? Actually I'm a moderate for the most part, but very conservative on a few sensitive issues, like drugs and abstinence education. Very conservative on that. Liberal in other ways.
Diamond, you're not alone in feeling ashamed. I supported this guy last year, supported his war. I truly am embarrassed at my prior support of him. Bush nees to go.
RockyRacoon From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 981 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1748 times:
Watch an episode of C-SPAN's "Prime Minsiter's Questions" (House of Commons). That's how it should be done here in the States, I'm jealous. I caught an episode a few weeks ago it was great. Interesting as hell. Bush wouldn't last more than a minute if things were done that way here, could you imagine bush doing q/a's with congress. If you haven't seen it watch it for a few minutes, you'll love it.
The August 6, 2001, memo to President Bush about al-Qaida's determination to launch a terror attack in the United States did not point specifically to a method of attack or a date for one, but the White House's assertion that it had too little information to act upon is revealing of the administration's apathy and bureaucratic malaise. Apparently nothing less than an al-Qaida press release announcing the organization's plan and schedule for September 11 would have roused the White House, and there is nothing to indicate anything has changed 2 1/2 years later.
The memo, strikingly titled "Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S.,"
offered intelligence that al-Qaida was not only plotting an attack but would quite likely hijack airplanes to facilitate it. This was not "historical" information as National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice asserted last week, it was alarming intelligence offered to Mr. Bush 36 days before the September 11 attacks that should have inspired the president to break off his Texas vacation and light a fire under the White House bureaucracy. Instead, nothing happened, and when the White House finally sprung into action it was to cynically use September 11 as an excuse to settle old scores in Iraq, when it should have employed all of its resources to counter the terrorist threat.
This week, the September 11 Commission will hear from both past and present heads of the FBI and Justice Department, and all parties will have plenty of answer for. It has become clear that both the FBI and CIA had collected considerable information about the comings and goings of al-Qaida operatives in the United States but the two competing bureaucracies did not share that information. Even worse, FBI bureaucrats in Washington paid little heed to warnings coming from their field offices and did not pass down information the field offices could have found useful. Louis Freeh, the sanctimonious FBI director under Bill Clinton who tut-tutted about Monica Lewinsky while terrorists were running around under his nose, should find the questioning particularly uncomfortable this week.
The failures of intelligence agencies aside, however, a president who is quick to spread blame and reluctant to accept responsibility needs to remember where the buck stops>. The Bush White House was asleep before September 11, 2001, and after September 11 it wrapped itself in the flag and headed off in the wrong direction. And it remains off course.
Boeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1739 times:
Now, I'll be glad to take your questions. I will start with you.
Q Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. President, April is turning into the deadliest month in Iraq since the fall of Baghdad, and some people are comparing Iraq to Vietnam and talking about a quagmire. Polls show that support for your policy is declining and that fewer than half Americans now support it. What does that say to you and how do you answer the Vietnam comparison?
THE PRESIDENT: I think the analogy is false. I also happen to think that analogy sends the wrong message to our troops, and sends the wrong message to the enemy. Look, this is hard work. It's hard to advance freedom in a country that has been strangled by tyranny. And, yet, we must stay the course, because the end result is in our nation's interest.
QIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1738 times:
Im neutral in this prez election. I don't really care who runs your country.
But I have followed this thing a little bit. And I don't want to be a pain in the ass but L-188 can you prove that the memo wasn't there on Bush' desk if Diamond has to prove it was there?
I don't think anyone besides Bush and the intelligence knows the answer to that one..
Rsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1731 times:
Jeff Miller........Care to comment on this response...
Text from the conference....
Q Mr. President, why are you and the Vice President insisting on appearing together before the 9/11 Commission? And, Mr. President, who will you be handing the Iraqi government over to on June 30th?
THE PRESIDENT: We will find that out soon. That's what Mr. Brahimi is doing; he's figuring out the nature of the entity we'll be handing sovereignty over. And, secondly, because the 9/11 Commission wants to ask us questions, that's why we're meeting. And I look forward to meeting with them and answering their questions<<<<<<
Ah didnt the reporter ask also about Vice Dick in the question to???????
I believe the point of the question wasnt to talk mostly about Mr Brahimis it was to ask the the PREZ why him and Vice Dick insist on appearing together.......yes George dodged answering another tough question.....I also remember that the 9/11 commision wanted them to appear seperatly.....what do they have to hide??????
Diamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1721 times:
I really don't have to codify the accountability of the FBI to the President. If that memo never crossed his desk, then it is no one's fault but his own for running a sloppy, dysfunctional organization.
And this administration has pushed the "I-never-saw-that" and the "I-don't-recall" strategy about as far as they can.
P.S. It DID cross his desk, because Dr. Rice alluded to it during her own testimony and was confronted about the apparent contradiction.
If you REALLY believe that this man is the one person out of 240 million that most closely represents YOUR views and the views of the rest of us conservatives, then why don't you speak more about his ABILITIES.
Your constant sniping at Kerry is not even the subject at hand. No one even cares about Kerry right now. We care about what is happening in the White House TODAY. Quit trying to deflect attention away from the most incompetent person to ever hold the office.
Deflection is what the White House has become all about. I'm suggesting that you bring a little more real MEAT to this dialogue rather than using smoke and mirrors (Kerry) to change the subject.