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User currently offlineBiggles20 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 195 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4379 times:

Hello All,

I know this is a very wide topic, but in general do you think porn is degrading - to women or otherwise? Or do you see it as the second best thing around?

Personally I can't see what all the fuss is about - though obviously if people are forced to do things and sexual acts against their own will then this is wrong and it should be regulated.

Basically, do you see a problem with pornography in general? Hope this topic doesn't offend anyone and I appologise if it does - sorry!

biggles

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User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4352 times:

I don't think porn is degrading to anyone. The pornstars are doing it because they make good money from it. And all those saying the women are degrading them selves should mind their own business. No one forces the actors to be in these movies.. And like I laways have said. If you dont like it. Change channel dammit!

User currently offlineLHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4348 times:

I regularly degrade myself to porn. Especially the male/male variety.

Signed, Jcs17



"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

I used to work at a 128 video cabin place. Videosupervisor, what a great job..


Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4332 times:

I watch porn all the time on my computer and tv. That is the closest I will come to having real sex.

Signed,

90% of a.net


User currently offlineMbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4327 times:

First, you'll have to define the term. Here's the first definition that I cam across:

"Creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire."

So, you can already see the problem. By its very definition, pornography is highly subjective. What one person may consider as having literary or artistic value, another will regard as simply prurient.


User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4683 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4276 times:

Actually, I think 'Pornography' is a pretty cool Cure album...............


"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineTWISTEDWHISPER From Sweden, joined Aug 2003, 711 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4252 times:

Dammit, you took the words right out of my mouth....
Pornography is the BEST Cure album...

Back to topic, I think that the only porn that is degrading for women is when Rocco Siffredi is in the cast...
And of course, you don't go and take advantage of some women that you have intoxicated with alcohol or drugs, and you absolutley do not capture it on film and then sell it... THAT'S degrading....



Read between the lines.
User currently offlineSophiemaltese From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2064 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

I think the women who do it and want to do it are actually a lot stronger than most of us women. I'm not talking about those who get suckered into it or don't know what else to do, but the ones who make a concious decision and are comfortable with their sexuality to the point they are confortable being filmed doing it and having it out there for the world to see. I know I sure don't have that kind of guts!

User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4248 times:

you don't go and take advantage of some women that you have intoxicated with alcohol or drugs, and you absolutley do not capture it on film and then sell it... THAT'S degrading

That is not porn. That is what I call rape. And those men should have their dick split in half.


User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

you don't go and take advantage of some women that you have intoxicated with alcohol or drugs

What if a woman does that to a man? Big grin


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11718 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4167 times:

Some people think the statue of David is pornographic. There are some things that I find disgusting that others find stimulating. As long as all parties involved are willing and understand the what the outcome will be, what is the problem? If a person does not want to go through with it, watch it, listen to it then don't. Pure and simple.

GO CANUCKS!!



Life in the wall is a drag.
User currently offlineTWISTEDWHISPER From Sweden, joined Aug 2003, 711 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4166 times:


That is not porn. That is what I call rape. And those men should have their dick split in half
Still, it's defined as porn when displayed on a screen. And I agree about the punishment, but would like to add a one month long session with Yousef the black man, with the 16 inch dick and a bucket full of coarse salt...

What if a woman does that to a man
Well.... I wouldn't mind, but if she was taping it and sold it, I want my cut of the profit dammit..  Big thumbs up
It all comes down to one word.... consent



Read between the lines.
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4148 times:

The pornstars are doing it because they make good money from it

Common misconception.

The majority of adult film performers are not contractual, and take in less than $50 for a six-minute average scene (which requires 30min to 6hours of filming; depending on the quality of the film, and whether scripting is involved).

*****

As for the male perspective, men tend not to make much at all even for the contractual, scripted, high-quality male/female films; which is why such an overwhelming majority of male/male porn performers are actually straight men.

There are a few notable exceptions-- such as "Peter North", who became famous enough to found/star in his own productions.... but even he had to start off in queer porn (as "Matt Ramsey"), despite his continual public denials thereof  Laugh out loud


User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4134 times:

I can say one thing about pornography: viewing it gets very boring very quickly. I'd sooner watch paint dry for an hour than watch an hour-long dirty movie.


"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineAlcregular From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3991 times:

Its only degrading for the people watching it who don't want to, so basically, why watch it if you don't like it. Personally, I love it, whether it be male-female, male-male, female-female. The only thing I object to is children and animals (yuck!)

User currently offlineSleekjet From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2048 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

You guys have gutter values. Do you really think this is how God intended you to use your time?


II Cor. 4:17-18
User currently offlineDasa From East Timor, joined Aug 2001, 760 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3902 times:

Which god would that be?

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3897 times:

You guys have gutter values. Do you really think this is how God intended you to use your time?

No, Sleek, I'm sure He wants us to listen to you constantly tell us how much better you are than the rest of us, and how Christ-like you are in your perfection.

Now, go bother people who want to have your religious values shoved down their throats. (no pun intended with the topic).


User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3898 times:

There are 14 books that have been removed from the Bible. Halos on saints and angles are copied from the ancient Egyptian sun disks. Jesus Christ was born in March (according to the Bible), yet his birth is celebrated in December. December 25th is the ancient pagan holiday of sol invictus (Unconquered Sun). Christian canonization is taken from the "god-making" rite of Euhemerus. Holy Communion is a practice borrowed from the Aztecs. The self-sacrifice of a young man (Jesus on the cross) appears in the earliest tradion of the Quetzalcoatl. The popular image of God in christian art is that of Zeus.

Sorry, when someone brought religion into it (not suprised at all by the way), I couldn't resist.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3894 times:

I don't see porn as either degrading or second best thing around.
It's just entertainment like baseball, hockey or what ever you enjoy watching or doing. I think adult films can certainly enhance and re-create the spark in couples that can use some fire in there relationship.

I was in a flick a couple of years ago, I didn't get paid much for it but I wasn't in it for the money either. It was just something I was curious about and just thought I'd try it out.
I went to college with a lot of women that were strippers and did porn to help with there college expenses. It sure as hell beats getting on welfare.  Big grin



Sophiemaltese:
think the women who do it and want to do it are actually a lot stronger than most of us women.

Well stated Gretchen and I am glad to see a female chime in on this topic.


I know I sure don't have that kind of guts!

Well you may not have the guts, but you certainly have the body!  Big thumbs up




Sleekjet:
Do you really think this is how God intended you to use your time?

LOL!  Laugh out loud
I've conceded to the fact that I am goin' ta HELL!  Acting devilish


[Edited 2004-04-23 05:10:39]


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3883 times:

"Can't you just let me go to hell my own way?" - Wild Bill Hickock

Who's to say what's right and what's wrong? To each his/her own. If we all liked the same things the world would be a damn boring place.


Steve/MSY


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3875 times:

Porn is on a 60 day hiatus in the US.

Major HIV epidemic.

Sad.

N


User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3877 times:

There are 14 books that have been removed from the Bible. Halos on saints and angles are copied from the ancient Egyptian sun disks. Jesus Christ was born in March (according to the Bible), yet his birth is celebrated in December. December 25th is the ancient pagan holiday of sol invictus (Unconquered Sun). Christian canonization is taken from the "god-making" rite of Euhemerus. Holy Communion is a practice borrowed from the Aztecs. The self-sacrifice of a young man (Jesus on the cross) appears in the earliest tradion of the Quetzalcoatl. The popular image of God in christian art is that of Zeus.

Thanks for the laugh. Obviously, you don't know much about the Bible or Christianity.



Proud to be an Assyrian!
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3867 times:

For all of you Holy Rollers, I've got a t-shirt for ya'll. Big grin





Bring back the Concorde
25 MSYtristar : Superfly...that's classic man! That reminds me of the "Jesus did it for the chicks" shirt that my brother used to have. Steve/MSY
26 Superfly : MSYtristar: Hey if you type "Jesus loves porn" in to an image search at google, you get this funny image with Jerry Farwell and a certain reproductiv
27 Post contains images Ralgha : Guess not, you better enlighten me quick!
28 BN747 : You guys have gutter values. Do you really think this is how God intended you to use your time? II Cor. 4:17-18 Username: Dasa Which god would that be
29 Post contains images QIguy24 : YEAH!!!! Rick Solomon has just sold the rights of distributing the homesex Video of him and Paris Hilton. So it will be realesed under the name " One
30 Roberta : There is nothing wrong with porn, its all natural
31 UAL747DEN : There is absolutely nothing wrong with porn. I have actually thought about doing it several times. I have been asked to do pron many times but have no
32 Ushermittwoch : So they asked you while you were stripping UAL?
33 BN747 : The majority of adult film performers are not contractual, and take in less than $50 for a six-minute average scene (which requires 30min to 6hours of
34 ConcordeBoy : All of this must be outside Southern California (the Valley in particular) because in they are paying much more than that here. Nah. Most of what I sp
35 Post contains images Srbmod :
36 Concord977 : ConcordeBoy - You seem to be hinting a lot that you are an "insider" to this industry. Care to elaborate (clearly) - or continue to drop feeble hints
37 BN747 : so confidence and a little knowledge will help if you decide to it... It's been my experience that those (above all else) are two characteristics prod
38 ConcordeBoy : take it to email if you want
39 ConcordeBoy : BN747, I understand what you're saying, and yes it does occur in multiple examples; but you're stuck viewing the industry through the experiences of t
40 Alessandro : As the sinner I am I thought the Paris Hilton video that are going to be released by a greedy ex-bf had a catchy title "one night in Paris"...
41 Post contains images Superfly : Concord977: I can't speak for ConcordeBoy but I did a shoot once for a cheap flick and one other for an erotic art exhibit. I didn't feel degraded no
42 Post contains images Ushermittwoch : Superfly, what's the name of the movie? I bet WidgetBoi'd love to rent it.
43 Superfly : Ushermittwoch: Man that's going back to 1994, I can't remember. It was part of a series. I'll try to find out. I have a cousin down there that is sti
44 BN747 : I didn't feel degraded nor did I feel treated like a piece of meat. There's nothing wrong with being treated like a piece of meat...as long as you lik
45 UAL747DEN : Ushermittwoch, Yes they did, anytime we work in a club they are always there to recruit us. I have never not been asked when working in a club. They a
46 Diamond : He's not in the industry if he's living in New Orleans.
47 Post contains images Bruno : So Superfly was a porn star huh. That is scary! I am no porn star but I've been told I look a lot like Ron Jeremy.
48 ConcordeBoy : Concordeboy, Are you in the industry....? Long story. If you want the details, take it to email.
49 Diamond : REPEAT: He's not in the industry if he's living in New Orleans.
50 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : ...for my (and apparently your own) edification---- did anyone here claim that I was?
51 Diamond : You have implied it with, Reply #13, in which you're educating us on the subject. " ... It's been my experience ... " in Reply #34. " ... take it to e
52 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : is your own implied "claim", not ours. "Assumption, great mother of all fuckups" ... more wise words from the book of ConcordeBoy
53 Diamond : Spoken like a true self-loathing, Republican! You put the elephant in the room. Why deny that it is there NOW?
54 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : I deny nothing... I'm just humoring your conviction in an assumption to which you know not the factual info
55 Diamond : C-boy, If I run into you at MSY on Thursday, don't let it slow you down any. Peace.
56 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : weak
57 UAL747DEN : Diamond Why does in matter where he lives? I am here in DEN and they shoot movies here all the time. Also why couldn't he just fly to LA for the day t
58 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Bummer UAL747, why'd ya have to go and help him with a conclusion that a grade school student could've just as easily arrived at? I was having fun
59 Diamond : UAL747DEN, It's just not a field that you "dabble" in. Either you're great at it and highly sought after and making a lot of money, or you've flunked
60 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : You forgot option 3... ...presumptuous dickslap [with the cognizance of a V-chipped orangutan] guesses and completely misses your occupation/involveme
61 Post contains images Diamond : Hmmm .... it appears that I have struck a nerve.
62 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : not yet... a little to the right
63 UAL747DEN : Diamond why do you even care???? Gotta love those ugly people.............
64 Diamond : UAL747DEN, My step-dad told me that a.net was a great place to meet people with interests in aviation. That hasn't been the case. I should have known
65 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : ...and yet: not only do you remain, but pay for to associate with these "creeps". Lunacy?
66 Diamond : If my leaving would make you feel better, then I have renewed motivation to stay.
67 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Quite the opposite, your rather dim wit has proven mildly entertaining on the slower days
68 UAL747DEN : Diamond, Dont ya get it kid no one likes you!!!! You dont need a reason to stay no body cares if you come or go, if you are on this site because you w
69 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : And like I said I hate ugly people LOL, shweet
70 Post contains images Diamond : UAL747DEN, Regarding your photo #1, I can recommend a workout routine that would take care of that baby fat problem you're struggling with. And as for
71 Biggles20 : Hello All again, Hope everyone enjoyed this topic - I am always surprised and very amused when topics posted on this site almost always result in peop
72 Diamond : Ladies and Gentlemen, We have liftoff. Another successful launch of the insecure into the stratosphere. That really didn't take much effort at all.
73 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : ...aint that the pot callin' the kettle dear Diamond?
74 Diamond : We'll all end up in the same stew eventually. You guys have waged a lovely battle and have won. I canceled my account a couple of hours ago, but for s
75 IndustrialPate : Another successful launch of the insecure into the stratosphere... Is that insecure person you? Is it just me or are half your posts devoted to 'me, m
76 Canuckpaxguy : C'mon guys....Let's stop fighting. I wanna see everyone kiss and make-up. Just relax. G
77 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : You guys have waged a lovely battle Not really... we just engaged in the same banter that we do with everyone else on this site. I canceled my account
78 MaverickM11 : "You guys have waged a lovely battle Not really... we just engaged in the same banter that we do with everyone else on this site. " I've been followin
79 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : who's the dumbass that willingly gave up the 4 minutes to begin with...?
80 UAL747DEN : They deleted my post but it look like it got the job done!!!!
81 MaverickM11 : "who's the dumbass that willingly gave up the 4 minutes to begin with...? " Touché. Sometimes you start reading things with the idea that you'll find
82 Post contains images VSLover : MoDo is like a car wreck. you know it will be a waste of time, yet you just see her picture on the nytimes homepage, and you cant resist. like porn. x
83 Post contains images BOEING747-700 : Diamond, what is it that you have said that pissed someone off? I have read nothing that was that bad. oh well Happy workout!
84 Ts-ior : Pornography is that kind of thing that goes with the human being to its deepest animal's side,making his brain and brilliant capacities useless to di
85 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Um, John Kerry... is that you? Dude, you just did a complete 180 flipflop in the logic of your post: goes with the human being to its deepest animal's
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