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Norway Follows Spain Out Of Iraq  
User currently offlineVanessa From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 122 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1573 times:

Norway announced at the outset that the Norwegian contingent in Iraq would be withdrawn this summer.

The foreign Minister Petersen says Afghanistan is NATO's main priority, and that Norway does not have the resources needed to remain in Iraq as well.



Salam on you.

[Edited 2004-04-24 20:25:12]

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User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1397 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

Complements of our/America's push to destablize Iraq while the job in Afghanistan remained unfinished, the world--NATO, UN, you name it--now has two concurrent priorities.

I'll be curious to see if countries like Norway, Spain, etc. devote these Iraq troops over to the Afghanistan to solve that problem or if that the "main priority" is just political wind to get them home until the problems become too big on a world scale.



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User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1519 times:

Amazing how up until Spain decided to surrender to the terrorists and leave Iraq, all the liberals and their allies in the media were saying that the U.S. should have had "international support" and that we went in "unilaterally".

Now all of a sudden, there are dozens of countries with troops and support personal in Iraq but they're only mentioned if they decide to run away as well.



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User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1397 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

Private contractors rank #3 in the Coalition, behind US troops and British troops, in terms of sheer numbers. The exodus of those other token support countries (and their hundreds of troops) only exacerbates the point of unilateralism and how these countries feel that even such paltry support isn't worth the risk any more.


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User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1477 times:

There are some Norwegian soldiers in Iraq right now. But they were never a part of the invading force (US, UK, Spain, Denmark, Italy and others), but on a strictly civilian mission, and their stay was never meant to last more than half a year.
Current events has nothing to do with this redrawal at all.

- caravelle



Trains and boats and planes....
User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

Norway and Spain have the right idea.

We should leave too and let the country self-destruct, it's going to happen eventually, whether we leave now or 10 years from now.



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8702 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1374 times:

Boy, there's been some serious deletion work done here!  Laugh out loud

AFAIK, the Norwegian "forces" (if it's even appropriate to call them that) weren't withdrawn because anyone's concerns, but because they were due to return home anyway and the Norwegians didn't extend the assignment. To say that "Norway Follows Spain Out Of Iraq" is a wee bit incorrect, in my opinion.



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User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1361 times:

As I said before:

THE AXIS OF WEASELS IS GAINING MOMENTUM.

 Big grin



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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

good! all that's needed now is more countries to realize bush was wrong and leave before more people need to die unnecessarily.


"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1337 times:

I don´t think it´s people/forces leaving that would help Iraq or anybody else; What´s needed is people/forces starting to do the right thing for a change.

At this stage with everything screwed up that far a complete pullout would just create yet another disaster. The damage is done - now the cleanup will be a lot more expensive than it might have been otherwise, but it still needs to be done.

And Afghanistan is far from over as well - if it´s going to be neglected the way it´s been so far, this one will go back to hell just as certainly as Iraq!


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1289 times:

Question, if all of these countries are pulling out of the current peacekeeping effort in Iraq...............Then how was/is the current occupation by definition not an international effort?


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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1283 times:

Because only a small minority of the international community was involved (especially when you´re comparing population figures - although most of the actual populations were against it anyway), and without UN authorization on top of that. Look at the troop numbers and it´s even clearer (with mercenaries in third place!).

User currently offlineRev3oh2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 141 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1278 times:
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Thank you, Norway, for your help with the civilian mission. The U.S. appreciates your help!


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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1257 times:

B757300, the Spaniards are leaving because they changed government,
others have other reasons.


User currently offline747400F From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

Wish the danish lot would leave too. But as a primeminister is the lapdog of Blair/Bush fat chance that will happen.

User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1216 times:

lol, what's "Salam on you" mean?  Laugh out loud

Seriously though, that last phrase seemed so out of left field and if Norway wants to follow NATO into Afganistan so be it.



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User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

Look at the troop numbers and it´s even clearer (with mercenaries in third place!).

You say "mercenary" as if it's necessarily a bad thing...... if you're referring to the PMCs involved in Iraq; well, they're in Afghanistan as well. Karzai's bodyguards are US PMC employees - the exact company, I believe, used to be called DynCorp, but I think CSC bought them out a while ago......

Being a professional soldier is certainly not a disdainful career choice.....



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

747400F

I agree with you too. It's really getting out of hand down there and it's turning to one big mess.
But as long as we have Fjogh! as our leader that will never happen. He loves to kiss Bush's ass.


User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1180 times:

I agree with you too. It's really getting out of hand down there and it's turning to one big mess.

Hrm, interesting response, considering your signature is;

If something's hard to do, then It's not worth doing.



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1173 times:

Goose,

It's a safing from the Great Homer Simpson. I could change it if it makes you happy. Big grin
But I still stick to my opinion.

[Edited 2004-04-26 09:08:54]

User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1165 times:

Lehpron,

Salam on you means May peace be with you on arabic.


User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 1149 times:

>>>We should leave too and let the country self-destruct, it's going to happen eventually, whether we leave now or 10 years from now.<<<

That's what happened to Afganistan after the Soviets left. The country fell into anarchy, the Taliban took control and the rest I'm sure you're aware of.

Having a country "self destruct" is not in the best interest of anybody, except of course those who try to precipitate such events.




You're only as good as your last departure.
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1119 times:

Goose: You say "mercenary" as if it's necessarily a bad thing......

They´re given military authority without any democratic control. They´re basically thugs for hire. I know very well that they themselves don´t see it that way and most of them are (hopefully) trying to behave properly. But the situation their "deployment" is creating is highly problematic.

It´s another attempt to do the war "on the cheap" - no matter the cost.  Nuts

Just keep them "off the books"...


User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1093 times:

If you have read my posts regarding Spain (Before VC-10 put his political views before the forum and deleted them) you would know that I am completely against those cowards for what they have done, HOWEVER this is not the case with Norway, as mentioned above they are not leaving early and they are not just abandoning all of the other troops and leaving them with all the extra work without notice. Norway has a very legit reason for pulling out of Iraq, they feel that they resources are spread too thin and they have a long-term commitment to Afghanistan which they are going to fulfill. Norway was there when called upon and I commend them for that. They now feel that it is in their best interest for national security reasons (not letting into the terrorist) to give notice that they will have to pull out of this part of The War On Terrorism, however they continue to support the coalition in Afghanistan.


/// UNITED AIRLINES
User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1070 times:

They´re given military authority without any democratic control. They´re basically thugs for hire. I know very well that they themselves don´t see it that way and most of them are (hopefully) trying to behave properly. But the situation their "deployment" is creating is highly problematic.

The private military companies involved are businesses; it's in their best interest for having continued employment to behave properly. They're also paid very, very well; and they simply will do things for money which normal soldiers wouldn't - dangerous duties and so on - and are preferable to indiginous forces when it comes to protecting foreign dignitaries like Karzai in Afghanistan; they're less likely to be swayed by their personal convictions, because they have few if any. As I said, they're in it for the money, and can be trusted because they're bound by a contract.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, either.

[Edited 2004-04-28 23:58:31]


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