Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4425 posts, RR: 16 Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1488 times:
Hopefully Kerry will win, I dread another four years of Bush.
Unfortunately the odds are greatly against the democrats. From a realistic standpoint, I'd say Bush will win, but we sure as heck should fight to avert that outcome. We have a chance, we better not blow it.
Phaeton From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 406 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1468 times:
Everybody I've met here in Germany thinks that it's obvious that Kerry will win on November 2nd. They just couldn't imagine anybody who supports Bush (and for what reason). Same goes for me. Realistically however I think Bush will still win. What a shame.
"History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.", Winston Churchill
Zak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1455 times:
"Maybe he can try and get all the prisoners to vote like Gore? 'Ya think?"
why should prisoners not vote?
citizen rights removal(right to vote is a very important citizen right) should only apply to the most severe criminals like mass murders and rapists. if someone stole a car and sits in jail for it, i see no reason why they should not vote.
Bofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1449 times:
I would say that a majority of people in western Europe will see Kerry as the next president. But the people in the eastern Europe incl the Baltic states is more in favour of Bush. I think that you all know why...
Cptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2918 posts, RR: 13 Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1441 times:
I will probably vote for Bush, although this is the first election in memory that I am now considering not voting. Yes, I know if I choose not to, I effectively lose my "right" to bitch about what I don't agree with or make suggestions, but I simply cannot recall ever being so aggravated and tired with politics. Differences of opinion are healthy, but this time around the near total polarization seems to have erased most forms of any constructive party agenda. Regards...Jack
Rev3oh2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 141 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1429 times:
I'm curious to know why those posting from Europe seem to have such confidence in a Kerry victory? Apart from the fact that he's not George Bush (the reason many seem to be supporting him here), what do they see in him as a potential leader?
I can tell you that a lot of Bush supporters are terribly disappointed in the way Bush has become just like the loyal opposition in terms of his "big government" spending. But when viewed from the standpoint of who they'd rather have dealing with terror threats and defense, I think most of them will hold their nose and vote for Bush, given Kerry's poor record in support of defense spending, not to mention his ever-shifting positions on other issues.
...let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1405 times:
If we hand over control, and they piss it away...it will be Bush's fault for not waiting.
If we don't because they are not ready, then it will be Bush's fault.
Jeff, for God's sake-HE STARTED THE WAR. He SHOULD be called on the carpet if things go bad, because it was HIS action in ordering the invasion that has precipitated events since then. Not Saddam, not the Democrats, not Europe, but President Bush. The buck has to stop with him.
Conversely, I'm sure you wouldn't waste a second in condemning President John Kerry if, two years after the handover happens, the place falls apart. It will have been Bush's doing, but you'll be the first one on here bitching.
NWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1402 times:
A major problem here is that a large number of Kerry supporters don't actually care about his goals and his plans for our country. They seem to only care about him replacing Bush, like that's the most important thing he can do.
Just goes to show the idiocy of the many who've taken an unbelievable hatred to Bush on the basis of bullshit ideology.
L.1011 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2209 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1390 times:
I'm not going to say Bush is a particularly great President. He's a good President, and a good man, but not in the league of Reagan-win-every-state-but-one. He still holds the advantage, as the country's condition seems to be improving. However, we will know the results if- Osama is caught or this becomes Bush Rice or Bush Powell 2004. For better or for worse, minority groups tend to vote for the minority candidate/ticket regardless if they agree with them. The same happens with any group as a minority. That puts a lot of minority votes in the red state column. It also sets Condi or Colon up for a 2008 run against Hillary. An Osama capture also secures the election for Bush. Some are also suggesting that Kerry will implode in August, because just hating Bush and not proposing any ideas himself will only fly so long. We'll see, but a Bush win looks likely.
NWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1387 times:
I know-bitter against anyone who doesn't see things your way. That was my point.
If that's the way I've always been, then why am I on your RU list Alpha? And why are you on mine? I've stuck to my views and my beliefs, and for the most part, so have you, but with views on Bush, you've turned into a whining far left winger who does nothing but bash him.
Sorry to break the news to you, but you, and conservatives, hated Clinton a hundred times more than any "liberal" hates Bush.
Msot ridiculous thing I've ever read. Look at the outcry from the liberals and how much they hate Bush. It's a THOUSAND times worse and louder than the conservative voice who hates Clinton. You probably think the conservative voice on these boards defending Bush is louder than the liberal voice opposing Bush, don't you?
Funny, that's why I'm voting for Kerry. Amazing.
Well congradulations, I'm not going to blame you for that if you really feel that way. Good job for not joining the morons voting for Kerry just to get Bush out.
Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4425 posts, RR: 16 Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1383 times:
Kerry's poor record in support of defense spending, not to mention his ever-shifting positions on other issues.
You must not have read my post containing facts that completely prove the contrary. John Kerry has a good record on defense, even John McCain came to his defense on that. And shifting policies? First off, he's not a flip-flopper, you've been hearing that because the Bush ads have succeeded in defining him, but few people have actually taken Bush's ads with a grain of salt and actually checked for themselves to see if they were true.
I ask you this:
Why are you so quick to believe Bush when he labels Kerry, without looking into it for yourself? This is a man that said gay marriage was a non-issue in his 2000 election, said that saddam hussein had WMD, changed his position on abortion rights....among other things, George Bush is the ultimate flip-flopper...and then he accuses Kerry of having a tax gap, and get this, many of Kerry's proposals are similar to what Bush promised in his 2000 campaign. In short, he's being a hypocrite and running such negative ads against Kerry that people aren't seeing the forest through the trees. Bush has no right to call Kerry a flip flopper, that title belongs solely on himself.
And, yes, Kerry has changed his mind on a few issues...what I'll quote bill maher here and say: "It's a sad state of affairs when being a thoughtful person, who evolves in his thinking, is labeled a flip-flopper. I mean these Bush supporters go: "George Bush is a strong leader because he knows ONE THING". I mean, wouldn't you want someone who is capable of adapting with his thinking?"
Don't praise Bush because he is an immovable rock. Have you changed your mind within the last 10 years?
Nevertheless, if you have an open mind, please, read this thread, and see a complete debunking of the GOP's charges against Kerry. Please, all I ask is that you read it and perhaps open your mind to the possiblity that George Bush could be wrong when he calls Kerry a flip-flopper. Always, always always, take political ads with a large grain of salt. Even Kerry has made some exaggerations against Bush. It's politics. Be educated and find out the truth for yourself.
Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4425 posts, RR: 16 Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1380 times:
BTW, I'm supporting Kerry because my first candidate of choice, Wes Clark, dropped out of the race. I supported Clark first, then Kerry for a while, then went back to Clark, and then went back to Kerry after Clark dropped out. I really think Kerry will do a much better job as president than George W. Bush has, and I hope he wins so that I can see if his promises will be fulfilled. Except the national service one, I hope that goes down in flames in congress. See, Kerry has some bad ideas too. I support the man with some reservations, but I have far fewer reservations against Kerry than I do against Bush. The former I at least consider trustworthy and presidential. The latter has lost my trust and my vote as commander in chief of this country. I don't consider Bush an honest man.
I also believe Kerry will be a friend to aviation, as he himself is a pilot.