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South Africa VS Eastern Europe  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

Hi! I plan to visit either one of them in January 2005. Which one would you recommend? South Africa or Eastern Europe? What's the weather like at that time?????

Which one has more to see?

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User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2578 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

If you are interested in bitter cold weather plus snow and ice, I would recommend Eastern Europe in January. Especially since the Christmas holidays are over by then, and most of the decorations (and holiday spirit) are long gone.

On the other hand, South Africa is hot (their summer), but also relatively crowded with tourists and locals on holiday.

I was in South Africa last year in January, and it was a great trip, with excellent weather. But I kept on thinking what things would have been like, say perhaps in February when the crowds thin out a bit.


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

South Africa, would be my choice, too cold in Europe then..


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

Anything special in South Africa?

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

No UA,it's very bland indeed. I recommend a visit to Angola instead.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

What's Palace Hotel like? I mean the one in SA.

User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Which one? There's more than one... the one in Sun City (The Palace of the Lost City), I presume?

Personally, I didn't like it - too overdone for my taste, but Sun City in itself is quite an experience...

Have a look at http://www.sun-international.co.za or http://www.sun-international.co.za/resorts/suncity/accommodation/default.aspx?mainframe=SCPaccomIntro.aspx&Picframe=scpabar1.aspx&Menuframe=MainMenu.aspx%3fcmsMenu%3d412 for more details.

Regards,
Frank

P.S.: My choice would also be South Africa - no doubt about it... it's one of the (if not the) most beautiful countries on the face of the earth!



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User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

A search on Google.com should answer your rather vague question.

Why feed the trolls....




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User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

South Africa, by far.


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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

How is the Palace of the Lost City Hotel? Nice? VERY LUXURIOUS I guess?

Anything to rave about?


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

United Airline, it's very luxurious - Sun International calls (or called) it a 6-star-hotel, and (if such a category actually existed) I think it would deserve it.

I just, as mentioned above, think that it's somewhat overdone - some like it, some love it, I don't... I prefer the more subtle type of elegance or luxury that you find at some 4-5 star hotels in cities: but the Palace of the Lost City is, if you can afford it (and if you're not travelling to South Africa on a regular basis), absolutely worth it.

The whole Sun City complex is worth a visit - going there you pass through really dry areas while, coming into Sun City is like coming into an oasis...

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineMoolies From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1824 times:

South Africa my friend is the only place to be especially in January the weather is as always awesome.

Some advice, I would personally go to Cape Town and also to a game reserve, maybe the Kruger Park. You wont ever regret coming here, it is a legend place, but dont let me bias about beeing a south african sway your decision.

I am yet to meet any one who has visited her and has had a bad time.


User currently offlineMoolies From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

If you are going to go large with money then come here as well I suggest, last year we had 2 of the top 5 hotels in the world. That was according to Conde Nast Traveller. Our finest hotels are always good and there standards are always up there. Our ratio of excellent hotels to medium and bad ones, from what I heard is the best in the world.



User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

So is South Africa expensive? Or is it pretty cheap? What are the prices?

User currently offlineMoolies From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1811 times:

Well ok let me give you this as in example the Rand (local currency) has almos doubled in strength the last 2 years so things for tourists have become more expensive yet relative to the rest of the world it is dirt cheap. You will get a really good 3 course meal plus drink for $10-$15 dollars per person. Even that is a lot for here. But dont take my word for it do your home work.

A can of coke here costs about $.50.

I suggest you go and buy the Dorling Kindersley Travel guide to South Africam it is very helpful and will give you a lot of details I havnt seen the Fodors one or Lonely Planet, apparently they are good for south africa as well.

If you want more info email me at mattmoolies@hotmail.com


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8450 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1803 times:
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Don't come in February it is too hot then, October is a nice time.


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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1786 times:

US$1= How many Rand?????

HK$1?????


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

United Airline,

1 HKD = 0.890199 ZAR
1 ZAR = 1.12334 HKD

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1766 times:

Don't visit Europe in the Winter unless going for skiing. It's hot summer in South Africa! If you need a chill (ice, snow and -C,), then come to Europe.


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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

Is South Africa a 1st world country???? It looks pretty advanced!!!! Guess it is the richest/most advanced place in Africa.

User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5694 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

Definitely do come to see Central and Eastern Europe, but NOT in January. It's cold, dark, wet - I wouldn't recommend it. Late April, May, June and September are best months to come over here.

User currently offlineNonrvsmdmf From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

I would go to SA. Everything is cheap and the people are great.
I was there for 3 weeks and would go back in an instant if
I could.



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User currently offlineFlysaa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1696 times:

If you love hiking, camping, nature and the great outdoors, SA is a great place to visit. I have some very nice photos of Cape Town and the Drakensberg Mountains in my online photo gallery, just to wet your appetite:

http://community.webshots.com/user/reinhoft


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

Is it a first world country?

User currently offlineNonrvsmdmf From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

United Airline, I am not sure what you mean by a 1st world country.

Of all the African nations I know SA is the best. Compared to the
states, they have everything we have. I drank the water, ate
the food and did not get sick. No shots were required, but when
I went to Krueger National Park I took anti-malaria pills. If
you need anything, you can probably find it. Its an amazing
country with great people. The only timed I felt threatened
was a Krueger when we got charged by an elephant.
(Not our fault)



I did not forget...I just misplaced the thought...
25 United Airline : Should be pretty advanced...... interesting BUt where do you get those pills? Can I get any in HK?
26 Nonrvsmdmf : sorry for the long time for the reply...got a round the world trip going on... for the pills, you will only need anti-malaria pills if you are plannin
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