Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
If Clinton Got Another Term.  
User currently offlineSK901 From Denmark, joined Feb 2004, 113 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

If Clinton was able to get another term, who would you like to
see as the new president in november '04

Clinton, Kerry or Bush Jr.?


Traveling is living
53 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

Clinton...... you mean, Hillary Clinton....?  Big grin


"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

Bush

User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2385 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

I have always wondered how Clinton would have handled or dealt with 9/11 in comparison to Bush.....

User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1427 times:

I'll bet there would still be at least 700+ american soldiers alive.

 Pissed

[Edited 2004-05-04 23:01:48]

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13699 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1417 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

I'll bet there would still be at least 700+ american soldiers alive.

I'll bet there would also be at least 1000+ more American civilians dead at the hands of terrorists, though. Clinton wouldn't have reacted to al Qaeda as quickly as Bush did, and it's likely that a few more catastrophic attacks against the U.S. and its interests would have taken place as a result.



"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

Statistics show that the economy was the best in history when Clinton was in office. Unfortunately, I'm too lazy to look for such stats.

I'd vote Clinton, then Kerry, then a gopher, then my cell phone, then a paper clip, then Bush.



Never Trust Your Fuel Gauge
User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1406 times:

Since you are too lazy to look it up (which means you are an uninformed voter), but if you had looked it up you would have seen that economic indicators started their downward trend well before the Nov. 2000 election, resulting in the downturn of early 2001, that was further fueled by the terrorist attacks on 9-11.

I'll bet there would still be at least 700+ american soldiers alive.

I wouldn't be so sure Boeing Nut, in 1998 when Saddam threw the weapon inspectors out, the Democrats in the Senate were more than willing to give the same bill that they gave Bush (43) to Clinton.



At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13699 posts, RR: 61
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1403 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Statistics show that the economy was the best in history when Clinton was in office.

Thanks to the "irrational exuberance" (Alan Greenspan's words) in the market, there was a wealth effect that was unprecedented - and went to hell when the tech bubble burst (also on Clinton's watch). The most recent recession was part of Clinton's legacy, pal. Bush inherited it from the Clinton/Gore team.




"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1399 times:

I'll bet there would also be at least 1000+ more American civilians dead at the hands of terrorists

Bingo!  Sad


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17777 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

"Unfortunately, I'm too lazy to look for such stats."

Clearly, as evidenced by Reply #8.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

Any statistics that are pulled need to be adjusted for the restatements of financial earnings by companies such as Enron, WorldCom, Adelphia, etc . . . .

Though these companies were caught during GWB's presidency, their frauds were perpetuated during WJC's time in office. I wonder if anyone has gone back and analyzed just how much of the greatest economy in the last 40 years was a result of fraudulent financial reporting.

Remember, there are lies, damn lies and statistics.

-76M


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13699 posts, RR: 61
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1373 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

I wonder if anyone has gone back and analyzed just how much of the greatest economy in the last 40 years was a result of fraudulent financial reporting.

Excellent, excellent point! Of course, things like that are lost on those who still want to argue that Clinton was the greatest thing since sliced bread.




"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3531 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

Clinton.

Despite their size, enron and worldcom only made up a very small percentage of the economy during clintons years in office. Both companys were run by people who identify more with George Bush then Bill Clinton (ideology, background, etc..). Presidents have very little to do with income tax and corporate fraud, just as no one can blame clinton for enron, no one can realy blame bush either. The one thing that i do notice about me between the presidencies is that when clinton was president i never minded singing the national anthem, i had no problem being "proud" to be an american, and i didn't feel uncomfortable if i was at a place where people started "god blessing america" and other patriotic things such as that. But in the 3+ years mr bush has been president i no longer feel that being an American is something to really be proud of.



Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

Quite honestly, Bush and Clinton didn't have such a different foreign policy. Perhaps Clinton was a bit more eloquent about it...But Clinton put troops in Serbia without UN approval, and against the wishes of France, Russia, and China. Both Clinton and Bush had a new outlook for how the US should act in the 21st century and their outlooks really weren't that different.

User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1344 times:

Would like to see Hillary Clinton as president.

I'll bet there would also be at least 1000+ more American civilians dead at the hands of terrorists, though. Clinton wouldn't have reacted to al Qaeda as quickly as Bush did, and it's likely that a few more catastrophic attacks against the U.S. and its interests would have taken place as a result.

You make me laugh, LOL. Every time Pres. Clinton used the military as a means of fighting terrorism, it was uncalled for, and terrible. Now when Bush does it, it is excellent, and an act of justice.

PPGMD,

No, it happened when Bush took office. Just look at the national deficit, record surpluses under Clinton to record deficits under Bush.



Proudly from the Home of the Red Tail.
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1343 times:

Clinton wouldn't have reacted to al Qaeda as quickly as Bush did..

That's just Republican posturing there. I think Clinton or Gore would have had absolutely no choice but to go to war in Afghanistan, and, while there's no way to know if they would have done it at the same moment Bush did it, there's no doubt in my mind the results would have been the same.

I do not think there would have been a war in Iraq. I think Iraq was a neocon obsession that 9/11 opened up for them, and they convinced a very frightened president that it was time to strike, be damned what the fact were surrounding that regime.

There's no way to tell how the economy would be doing-there's no way to tell, but obviously we woudln't have given all this charity to the wealthiest Americans that this president has done.

And there's no doubt that the wholesale gutting of environmental, consumer and worker protections that this administration has destroyed in the pursuit of profit, would not have taken place.

And there's no doubt that we wouldn't be an international pariah that this President has made with his arrogance and his "shoot first, talk later" brand of "diplomacy", if you want to call it that.

I think we'd be much better off, to be honest, the neocons on this board and their "we're better than everyone else" mentality aside.

Remember, there are lies, damn lies and statistics.

Yes, and then there is Fox News Network.  Big grin

[Edited 2004-05-05 01:35:17]

User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1336 times:

"Yes, and then there is Fox News Network. "

Meaning, lies, LOL. That is the most conservative news I have ever heard in my life. It sucks, and if your wondering, I don't like this AirAmerica Radio either.



Proudly from the Home of the Red Tail.
User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13699 posts, RR: 61
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1334 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

You make me laugh, LOL. Every time Pres. Clinton used the military as a means of fighting terrorism, it was uncalled for, and terrible

I defy you to show me a time where I referred to any use of the U.S. military as "uncalled for" or "terrible."

C'mon, newbie. I'm waiting.

Or maybe you're just full of crap?  Insane




"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1332 times:

C'mon, newbie. I'm waiting.

NEVER call me a newbie, fu**er. Why don't you come to my turf? newbie.
http://www.cdrlabs.com

Also, newbie is a very childish term, one I try not to use at all times necessary. Your profile says you are 26-35, meaning that the other thread was correct, stating that many older adults were more immature than teenagers on this forum.

Also, it's a well known fact, LOL.

"NEWSWEEK: CLINTON APPROVAL RATING SLIPS FOLLOWING MILITARY ACTION IN KOSOVO."

"'CLINTON MAY CONSIDER MILITARY ACTION AGAINST IRAQ'"
"President Clinton then attempted to claim credit for what he called moving closer to "...[R]ealizing our dreams in the 21st century... this strategy is showing some results. We have the lowest unemployment rate in 7.5 years..." Teachers and students in the audience cheered wildly and waved their arms in the air, some whistled. Administrators watched in apparent surprise.

Daily Republican Newspaper reports on the scene for more than 5 hours found no teachers, students or administrators who could make a coherent explanation for the phrase in the president' speech "to teach them a lesson" or for that matter why guided missiles would be fired at the Iraqi people by president Clinton."

"The unwritten rule that politics stops at the water's edge was rudely shattered yesterday, as many congressional Republicans who have long distrusted and reviled President Clinton sharply criticized his motivations in bombing Iraq on the eve of a House vote on impeachment.

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) declared that he could not support Clinton's decision and joined many House Republicans in questioning whether the attack might be a desperate effort to frustrate the impeachment action."

Need more be said, Trent Lott supported military action under Clinton.



Proudly from the Home of the Red Tail.
User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1322 times:

You make me laugh, LOL. Every time Pres. Clinton used the military as a means of fighting terrorism, it was uncalled for, and terrible. Now when Bush does it, it is excellent, and an act of justice.

Same thing is yelled by the left when a Republican uses the Military. Even during Operation Desert Storm there were groups protesting it using the same exact slogans used for the OIF protests.

No, it happened when Bush took office. Just look at the national deficit, record surpluses under Clinton to record deficits under Bush.

So did 9-11, that doesn't mean that the roots were sowed under the previous administration. I don't blame the administrations for what happens in the economy they only have a mild effect on it. And the effect only takes shapes years after it has left office.



At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13699 posts, RR: 61
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1319 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

many older adults were more immature than teenagers on this forum

Yet you're the one who resorted to using profanity. How interesting.

And pathetic.  Insane

Anyway, you said I make you laugh, and then insinuated that I'd referred to any use of the military under Clinton as "uncalled for" and "terrible."

Did I ever say that? No, never.

I don't give a rip if Trent Lott or any other politician did - I was calling you out for what you'd written concerning me.

Your turf? Sorry, I don't need to waste time hanging out at a high school.






"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1317 times:

Ah, newbies. Don't you just love them, EA CO AS? I mean, doesn't that RR of 1 just frighten you to death?  Big grin

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16335 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

Does the US prevent 3 consecutive terms, or 3 terms in total? IE, could Clinton now run again, now that Bush has followed his first 2 terms?




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

Ah, newbies. Don't you just love them, EA CO AS? I mean, doesn't that RR of 1 just frighten you to death?

Yes, got to love them. The most enjoyable experience in my whole life is getting lectured about politics and computers by someone that is 15 years old tops.

Heck a bet he came tell me the best L/D speed for the glider that I fly, those engineers at Let have no idea how to calculate it.

Never had any respect for the respect rating system.



At worst, you screw up and die.
25 Alpha 1 : Here is Amendment 22: Amendment XXII Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held
26 Aviationwiz : PPGMD, I know a lot more about politics than many do who are any age... Don't let age fool you, my friends are of the most political of any age group.
27 Post contains images Alpha 1 : I know a lot more about politics than many do who are any age... I'm 43, kid. I've probably forgotten more about the political scene in this country t
28 Aviationwiz : Saying my arguments have no merit simply because I am young is a nice way to get out of an argument you are losing. Why don't you argue the facts if y
29 Yyz717 : Someday, you just might know more than me, but at this time, I don't think you need to be lecturing adults about politics. Why not? It's reasonable th
30 PPGMD : Saying my arguments have no merit simply because I am young is a nice way to get out of an argument you are losing. Why don't you argue the facts if y
31 Artsyman : Clinton would not have been so agressive, and mostly likely now the war on terror would be a world united against terror as opposed to it only being U
32 Aviationwiz : There is a reason that they don't allow people under 18 to fly commercially I did fly commercially alone, so that doesn't work... Also, my opinions on
33 PPGMD : I did fly commercially alone, so that doesn't work... *slaps forehead* In case you are ignorant you have to be 18 before the FAA will issue you a Comm
34 Post contains images L.1011 : Now, now Alpha be nice to us. Your only on here 6 months longer than me Now, as to the question. I will say I supported military actions in Bosnia, Op
35 Post contains images EA CO AS : Ah, newbies. Don't you just love them, EA CO AS? I mean, doesn't that RR of 1 just frighten you to death? Yeah, especially scary 15 year old ones that
36 Aviationwiz : Hey, EA CO AS & L.1011 your buddy PPGMD has a RR of 0 & has 1,704 posts, quite a bit more than me (I have 183) and I at least have one. But I like to
37 ConcordeBoy : It's reasonable that some 15yo's are better informed than some 43yo's. Don't pull the age factor I agree, but I also think that a distinction should b
38 PPGMD : Aviationwiz, My low RR comes from my avoidance of the Non-Av forum on most of the time, today was an anomaly, I was bored. You will find a majority of
39 DETA737 : Looking at the amendment it doesn't say anything about inheriting the presidency by being a vice president. So theoretically John Kerry could choose B
40 Alpha 1 : DETA737, it says the following: "Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the
41 Post contains links DETA737 : "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice" Since the 22nd amendment only pertains to the office of the presidency it
42 Alpha 1 : Since the 22nd amendment only pertains to the office of the presidency it wouldn't preclude Bill from being VP. It would, because Clinton could not co
43 DETA737 : "and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected P
44 Alpha 1 : "Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice." That's all you need to know. Clinton has been elected twice. H
45 Delta767300ER : I always liked Bill Clinton and I think he did a great job as President. Honestly, If he could run again he would get my vote. -Delta767300ER
46 FSPilot747 : Why the heck is ConcordeBoy a Bush fan? Aren't you as gay as they come??? FSP
47 DETA737 : It seems that we probably won't agree on this one, however I'm analyzing this amendment through the perspective of a law student. Since "Section 1. No
48 Concord977 : Alpha 1, a minor correction for you: " ... He is no longer constitutionally eligible, in any way, to end up as President ... " It is correct that he
49 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Why the heck is ConcordeBoy a Bush fan? ...because I'd never trust the security of this nation to a Democrat, which is by far my greatest concern. Are
50 EA CO AS : Hey, EA CO AS & L.1011 your buddy PPGMD has a RR of 0 & has 1,704 posts, quite a bit more than me (I have 183) and I at least have one. But I like to
51 Boeing nut : I just don't know what to think anymore. You hear this, you hear that. Did Bush know about 9/11? Will Kerry defend the US? Did Bush lie about WMD? Wou
52 B2707SST : Clinton CANNOT become Vice President. People are only looking at the 22nd Amendment, which limits Presidents to two terms. The 12th Amendment says thi
53 PPGMD : And I just remembered even if he is in a position that would put him in line to be President, he will be bypassed just like all non-US born citizens w
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
What If Some Of You Got Your Wish? posted Wed Oct 26 2005 21:09:00 by Matt D
Cantona: "I'd Do It Again If I Got The Chance" posted Wed Jan 26 2005 15:25:45 by Thom@s
Another Self Pic Thread (I Finally Got Some). posted Fri Mar 19 2004 00:29:19 by NormalSpeed
If You Could Be Another A.net User? posted Sat Oct 5 2002 05:32:45 by IHadAPheo
Have You Got A Website? If So Let's See It! posted Mon May 28 2001 17:34:06 by LGW
If They Were Muppets posted Wed Dec 6 2006 20:54:19 by Coz
Should We Start Building Another Ark? posted Wed Dec 6 2006 07:24:32 by Thom@s
Yet Another Football Scandal In Italy Brewing posted Wed Dec 6 2006 05:54:03 by LTU932
Yet Another Worldwide Corruption Index posted Tue Dec 5 2006 13:12:55 by WSOY
Adopting Another Cat? posted Tue Dec 5 2006 03:01:32 by Matt D