Things like this, if it's accurate, are what make me wary of Kerry, regardless of his politics.
The doctor's account -
I have a very clear memory of an incident which occurred while I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay.
John Kerry was a (jg), the OinC or skipper of a Swift boat, newly arrived in Vietnam. On the night of December 2, he was on patrol north of Cam Ranh, up near Nha Trang area. The next day he came to sick bay, the medical facility, for treatment of a wound that had occurred that night.
The story he told was different from what his crewmen had to say about that night. According to Kerry, they had been engaged in a fire fight, receiving small arms fire from on shore. He said that his injury resulted from this enemy action.
Some of his crew confided that they did not receive any fire from shore, but that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore. The crewman thought that the injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting from that mortar round when it struck the rocks.
That seemed to fit the injury which I treated.
What I saw was a small piece of metal sticking very superficially in the skin of Kerry's arm. The metal fragment measured about 1 cm. in length and was about 2 or 3 mm in diameter. It certainly did not look like a round from a rifle.
I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not require any sutures to close the wound.
The wound was covered with a bandaid.
Not [sic] other injuries were reported and I do not recall that there was any reported damage to the boat.
Was that worthy of a Purple Heart? People lose legs and are awarded a Purple Heart. Kerry gets a sliver and a Purple Heart?
WellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2122 times:
I tend not to put much faith in people recalling obscure facts and events 35 years after. However, for argument's sake, let's say he didn't deserve this one. That leaves him with only two... What an unpatriotic bastard.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2095 times:
He has no points. He never has points. He has no original thoughts or ideas, except those that the GOP tells him to have. He couldn't come up with ideas on his own if he tried. In many ways, he's just like Bush-an intellectual lightweight.
Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2064 times:
I frankly don't care. I mean, this issue of whether Kerry deserved a purple heart hardly matters I think...I don't think Kerry himself gets to "apply" to have a purple heart, aren't they awarded based on someone higher-up?
If that's the case then whether Kerry deserved it or not, him getting one for that injury wasn't necessarily his decision. And thus, we can't "blame" him for getting a purple heart he didn't deserve.
Let me ask you this:
Kerry fought bravely in that war. So maybe he got one purple heart he didn't deserve, but does that make him somehow less of a person? I don't see one reason, whatsoever, why this issue makes Kerry less desirable or trustworthy as a leader. This is just the GOP's attempt to make an issue where none exists.
If you want to have a reason to not trust Kerry, find a better reason. And MD-90 that isn't necessarily aimed at you, I'm just saying, I dont see why this should make you uneasy about Kerry whatsoever.
QIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2046 times:
Hey all you guys!!
Were any of you guys in Vietnam? Did any of you see John Keyy in action??
I think not. So how can any of you sit here and discuss if he deserved his purple heart or not if you weren't there?? All you know about it is the stories you get from the media.
Emmett99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2045 times:
Crap that happened 35 years ago is just bull shit. It's like dubya drinking and doing cocaine. Who the hell cares. We were all stupid at some point, and some of us still are. What really matters is who has a plan for the economy, and keeping the US and maybe the world safe. I personally can't stand Kerry, but that is more of a democrat from Mass. than any other reason. Not the greatest track record there. But he isn't going to cave to the terrorist and let them have a free reign on this country.
DLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2043 times:
How the hell can anybody tell a person, who got up in front of the bad end of several machine guns, defended our rights and our freedoms, INCLUDING THAT OF PROTEST, Get hit by pieces flying from said guns,
How the hell can you say that he doesn't deserve the purple heart?
I would be defending Dubya just as adamately if it was him being questioned, But he hid in the reserves for his "duty."