Russophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1412 times:
Maybe she can use the "trailer park excuse"?!? Why am I not surprised?
But yeah, they are being used as scapegoats -- doesn't excuse what they did -- but there are probably too many higher ranking military officials who won't see any investigation taking place against them -- to have 6 scapegoats is good enough in the eyes of the public.
N6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1266 times:
She was responsible for her own actions and she is being used as a scapegoat.
The court martial will be a farce because the outcome is already know. Guilty.
Can anyone imagine the geopolitical ramifications of her (or any of her compatriots) being found not guilty. It will make the Rodney King riots look like a walk in the park.
The notion of command responsibility has gone completely out the window in this country - be it Rumsfeld, Ken Lay, Dennis Kozlowski, Martha Stewart or anyone else. If you are in a command position you should bear responsibility.
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21592 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (11 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1250 times:
There is no more possibility of denial that torture and humiliation in Iraq were both widespread and systematic and that the american authorities had knowledge about it for a full year.
So the low-ranking soldiers paraded as individual perpetrators certainly bear their own share of the guilt, but this is a direct consequence of the way the Iraq invasion was prepared, sold to the american public and executed by the civilian and military leadership.
Just look at how many americans still falsely believe that Iraq had been behind 9-11 and you don´t have to wonder how you´d get "normal americans" to do what they´ve done. It wouldn´t even take that much; You just need to nudge them forward with the example of Guantanamo and the "understanding" that the leadership is expecting results by any means. That and a lack of oversight, and your ready-made disaster is prepared...
: I still think she quite enjoyed her participation in the photographs and am entirely sure that she won't be a "scapegoat" but prosecuted along with ot
: i doubt very much that she will see a Muslim court, besides SOFA will be used and she will be prosecuted under the UCMJ. No American soldier should be
: Whatever she gets, I feel sotty of that (unborn) child of hers. A different kind of a famous mom he/she will have. And scapegoat or not, how dumb must
: LOL how wrong can you be.. It would have ended long ago if those Iraqi jerks (rebels) had quit blowing up and shooting at the soldiers.... And your ri
: Stratofish, Have you heard about Ilse Koch of Buchenwald fame? Jan
: Have heard of her, but I don't know what you wanna tell me. f i l l e r
: LOL how wrong can you be.. It would have ended long ago if those Iraqi jerks (rebels) had quit blowing up and shooting at the soldiers.... LOL how wro