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Why Isn’t Bush Boasting About His Accomplishments?  
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

After 3 and half years in office, you would think that an incumbent President would outline the great things his administration has done.
How come Bush hasn’t come out and reminded people about how things were for them in 2000 compared to now?
How come Bush hasn’t boasted about the number of jobs created under his watch compared to Clinton?
How come Bush hasn’t boasted about what he has done to expand personal freedoms?
How come Bush hasn’t boasted about important strides less privileged people have succeeded on his watch?

As soon as John Kerry won enough delegates to become the Democratic Presidential nominee, the Bush/Cheney camp fired off an onslaught of attack ads against John Kerry. Usually an incumbent projects themselves as one who is above the fray and boast about there accomplishments. Ronald Reagan boasted about his accomplishments throughout 1984 without trashing Walter Mondale. Bill Clinton boasted about his accomplishments throughout 1996 and still spoke of Bob Dole with lots of respect and dignity.
Why can’t George W. Bush do the same?

Remember that $300 tax return we all got? Wasn’t that to make the economy skyrocket and peoples wages skyrocket as well?



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User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

Oh I don't know, maybe because when he does the media spikes the story and doesn't report it.

Also, just wait until after the conventions. It has been shown that the undecided make up their minds in September and October. That is when President Bush's $200 million war chest will be used. Since only the candidates can run ads anymore 60 days before the general election (stupid CFR bullsh*t), Bush will not be forced to compete with groups like Moveon.org which are spending millions from George Soros (and millions from foreign donors) to try and trash the President.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17506 posts, RR: 45
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

"How come Bush hasn’t come out and reminded people about how things were for them in 2000 compared to now? "

You mean after the recession that was well underway, a terrorist attack, two wars, and multiple additional terror attacks around the world? Even in spite of that total household wealth is higher than its previous peak in 2000.

"How come Bush hasn’t boasted about what he has done to expand personal freedoms?" Unless you're a prisoner at Guantanamo, there are no new restrictions on personal freedoms.

"Remember that $300 tax return we all got? Wasn’t that to make the economy skyrocket and peoples wages skyrocket as well?"
No, and no. If the economy skyrocketed we would have a whole host of new problems. Nonetheless, the economy has seen the greatest increase in GDP in a long time, and jobs are starting to be created at a brisk pace. Ask the question again after the summer and see what happens.

If you want to ask silly questions, why don't you cut to the chase and post something with a thread saying "I HATE BUSH". It would save you and everyone else a lot of time.



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

Maybe, because there aren't any.

And his $ 200 million TV debut this fall will be Ishtar II. A flop before it hits the water.


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

Why Isn’t Bush Boasting About His Accomplishments?

Easy answer, put into a question? Which accomplishments...? Ruining the economy, starting an expansive war, marginalizing topics to good and bad... list tbc


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

MaverickM11:
If you want to ask silly questions, why don't you cut to the chase and post something with a thread saying "I HATE BUSH".

Whoa calm down pal.
My question was not at all silly. Just can't figure out why Bush is taking the low-road and spending his money trashing Kerry. Usually incumbents that have accomplished a lot in 3 & a half years have a lot of good things to boast about. Both Reagan and Clinton did.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17506 posts, RR: 45
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

"Ruining the economy"

How so? You're flat out wrong and/or you've been living under a rock during the last four years.

"Whoa calm down pal. My question was not at all silly"

Not only are they silly; they're sarcastic and rhetorical.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1477 times:

MaverickM11:
Well if my questions seem silly I guess you'll laugh at anything.  Insane
Can you at least explain why Bush is trashing Kerry and not baosting about his achievements that you seem to recognize?



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1473 times:

you've been living under a rock during the last four years

The rock before was trashed on your head and disabled you from observing the reality and giving accurate statements

 Nuts


User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1469 times:

Just can't figure out why Bush is taking the low-road and spending his money trashing Kerry.

I think there was a thread a few days ago about how people being polled are using "negative" phrasing more and more in reference to Kerry. The word "honest" disappeared from the list of words used to describe the man.

It's cause, and effect. Bush is trying to establish what kind of man Kerry is in the "public psyche," which will last a lot longer than the memory of what Bush has done during his term. B757300 was right; he'll lay down his track record (or, at least, a sugar-coated version of it - all good, no bad) for the final 60 days.

Kerry has no similar point of reference, and instead will probably use that chance to keep trying to trash the President, or at least try and clean up some of the mud which has been slung at him right now.... and, perhaps, the trash-talk directed towards Bush will likely be using rhetoric that, by then, will probably be old and tired for the general public - a public which has a notoriously short attention span. But that's just a guess....



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17506 posts, RR: 45
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

"The rock before was trashed on your head and disabled you from observing the reality and giving accurate statements "

Please, enlighten me about how Bush "ruined the economy" using accurate statements.

"Can you at least explain why Bush is trashing Kerry and not baosting about his achievements that you seem to recognize?"
It's politics, and it's so easy to trash each other. Everyone does it and it's a shame because if the American public was intelligent, there'd be no such thing as trashy attack ads.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

MaverickM11:
You have given me a cop-out answer. I specificly gave examples of two different Presidents that won re-election without trashing there opponet. Reagan's 1984 campaign was somewhat clean and so was Bill Clinton's in 1996.

Bush has not came forward telling us why he should have four more years. It's sad that negative ads work but usually candidates show there own positives as well.



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

because if the American public was intelligent, there'd be no such thing as trashy attack ads.

That's the point


Maverick11, ever heard of Balance of payments deterioration, rise in wage inequality etc..?


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17506 posts, RR: 45
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

"Maverick11, ever heard of Balance of payments deterioration, rise in wage inequality etc..?"

Neither of these qualify as "ruining" the economy nor are they directly attributable to this administration. The Balance of Payments has been deteriorating for the better part of two decades. The rise in wage inequality in America is primarily due to increased immigration. If you correct for low wage immigrants (migrant workers etc) wage inequality is the same or down. I know you want to blame everything on Bush, but sometimes you have to wake up to reality.



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

The rise in wage inequality in America is primarily due to increased immigration

And now it are the foreigners and migrants againagain... cheap populism

let me reiterate:

because if the American public was intelligent

I am an American myself and believe that they are many nice fellows in the states. I know many. But you belong to the cited category... if you were intelligent... just an imagination


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

MaverickM11:
The rise in wage inequality in America is primarily due to increased immigration.

Interesting how you tell half the story. You conveniently left out the mass exporting of jobs and outsourcing. Remember how Bush’s boy was saying outsourcing was good for the economy? Bush also wants to further that wage inequality by cutting overtime pay.
It’s no wonder why he lost the endorsement of the Police Union (at traditionally GOP ally).



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User currently offlineVaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1427 times:

Why you ask??? Do you really think he has anything to boast about?? As a Canadian ~~ I have heard and read so much BS that I don't think he has anything to boast about!!!

Phyllis  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

Vaporlock:
You are correct.
This is the only place ware I can find people that unconditionally love W Bush so I figured this would be the best place to ask since they know so much about the man.
17 replys and none can give a straight answer.  Sad



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17506 posts, RR: 45
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1410 times:

"The rise in wage inequality in America is primarily due to increased immigration

And now it are the foreigners and migrants againagain... cheap populism
"

That's not populism; that's what's going on. A large influx of foreign labor makes it look like the American population is getting more and more unequal. Even when you include cheap labor, inequality is probably not increasing.

"I am an American myself and believe that they are many nice fellows in the states"

What does this have to do with the time of day?

"You conveniently left out the mass exporting of jobs and outsourcing. Remember how Bush’s boy was saying outsourcing was good for the economy? "

Outsourcing is good for the country. I really wish India and China would stop buying all American goods and services so you can see what you'd lose thanks to the reciprocal of that outsourcing. "Mass exporting?" Another use of hyperbole. Outsourcing is not new, nor is it "Mass" 2.6 million is a small percentage of the total working population, especially when you consider that 20 million+ jobs were added in the 90s, in spite of this "hollowing out of America" and "mass exporting of jobs". Of all the current jobless claims, less than 1% of them are victims of outsourcing.

Nonetheless it still doesn't add up to "ruining the economy".



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

Superfly, brilliant!  Smile

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

MaverickM11:
Have you given up on answering the original question of this thread?  Insane



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17506 posts, RR: 45
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

"I have heard and read so much BS that I don't think he has anything to boast about!!!
"
Must be reading moveon.org...

"This is the only place ware I can find people that unconditionally love W Bush so I figured this would be the best place to ask since they know so much about the man.
17 replys and none can give a straight answer. "

I do not love George Bush. I've give you answers to just about all your questions. I just haven't given you what you want to hear. Why the attack ads? Because it's easy, and the Democrats are just as bad at flooding the airwaves with attacks.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1391 times:

MaverickM11:
OK so if all of those rosy figures are true, how come most Americans feel that Kerry would be better for the economy?

Again, Bush is the incumbent. One would expect the incumbent to be more diplomatic at the start of there campaign.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17506 posts, RR: 45
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

"OK so if all of those rosy figures are true, how come most Americans feel that Kerry would be better for the economy?"

Depends what pollster you ask.

"Again, Bush is the incumbent. One would expect the incumbent to be more diplomatic at the start of there campaign. "

Why would you expect that?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

MaverickM11:
Why would you expect that?

Wow, that sounds like an admission that Bush is beneath Reagan and Clinton in terms of class and dignity. I am impressed.  Smokin cool
Perhaps you should leave this thread and let another Bush supporter who hasn't spoke yet take a stab at my question.
OK pal?



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25 BN747 : Maverick and the other nazi youth.. 757-300,L-1011 and MD90 are so deep in Bush sperm they can't see or speak straight. Why on earth you'd want any ki
26 Post contains images Superfly : BN747: I'd love to see if the nazi youth would go to Syria when their number comes up. LOL! They better have a rick influential Papa so they can learn
27 174thfwff : You can see that the economy was at a state never before under the Clinton Administration. Technology was booming and jobs were being created out of a
28 Dc10guy : Superfly, What Americans don't understand is Dubya and the Republican controlled congress is powerless. They are held hostage by the "liberal media" a
29 Post contains images Cptkrell : S'fly writes: "...hasn't taken a stab at my question." Hey, 'Fly, luv you pal, but in the interests of 'fair and balanced', here goes... Q.1) "How com
30 BN747 : They are held hostage by the "liberal media" and basically can't do anything even though they have complete control of the.. This is load of horsecrap
31 N79969 : How come Bush hasn’t come out and reminded people about how things were for them in 2000 compared to now? How come Bush hasn’t boasted about the n
32 IMissPiedmont : "You conveniently left out the mass exporting of jobs and outsourcing.." Oooooooook, if you choose to say so. But the exodus of such jobs goes back ti
33 Post contains links Diamond : For some insight into Bush's ethics and performance, please review some of these articles. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/200193043
34 Dc10guy : BN747, Dude I was being sarcastic. But make no mistake if Bush does lose I'll bet a thousand bucks that the "liberal media" will be blamed.
35 IMissPiedmont : What, pray tell, is this so called "liberal media?" Last I checked the media in the US is controlled by a block of very rich white men. Please nobody
36 BN747 : My bad Dc-10guy.. I've just had it up to hear when I hear people say that... BN747
37 Dc10guy : Me too bro, That was the point ... If a media outlet reports anything bad that happens in Iraq or points out Dubyas failures they are the "liberal med
38 Bruno : Bush has NOTHING to boast about!So the best he can do is stir up doubts about Kerry.God I hope John McCain reconsiders and join John Kerry as a runnin
39 Adria : Well when Bush is gone out of the White house, then the newrican government could get some respect. ou can say what ever you want but the most people
40 Alpha 1 : How can you boast about: -Starting a war that shouldn't have been fought? -Helping 3 million jobs flee the country? -Keeping everything you do a secre
41 Iakobos : Will a future aircraft carrier proudly be named CVN George W. Bush, possible call sign "mission accomplished", and port of call "make no mistake" ? I
42 MaverickM11 : "Heir Rupert Murdoch owns the nazi-network FOX " BN, when you say things like this, you look like an idiot. If it walks like a duck, and it talks like
43 Alpha 1 : If it walks like a duck, and it talks like an duck... Then it's definitely FOX News....
44 MaverickM11 : "Then it's definitely FOX News...." You guys are so full of sh!t. If someone whines that everything is under control of the 'liberal media' you have a
45 Post contains links and images Schoenorama : Oh, but Bush is boasting about his accomplishments! 'White House Is Trumpeting Programs It Tried to Cut WASHINGTON, May 18 — Like many of its predec
46 An-225 : Wasn't he boasting about how great everything is during his last State of the Union address? That thing was so mind-numbing, I volunteered to unload a
47 AGM100 : The President must walk a tight rope. He can lot kerry attack him with out a response. It is a weird deal but it makes it appear that he does not care
48 Post contains images Superfly : We are up to 48 replys and still not answer to why Bush is trashing Kerry right out of the gate. AGM100: He can lot kerry attack him with out a respon
49 Post contains links Rsmith6621a : Jeez.....Im not going to comment on this thread only to ASK!!!!!!!!!!!!!......... Where is Colorados favorite GOP son.........Jeff Miller.....there i
50 Superfly : Rsmith6621a: Oh am sure Jeffm is making phone calls and visiting every pro-Bush website to find some logic in Bush making pre-emptive strikes against
51 WellHung : Whatever it is, I sure hope it has something to do with "spewing out talking points" and Terry McAuliffe!!
52 AGM100 : Superflop, Do remember the "Where is Bushes Military records" attack ..early right after the Dem Nomination. Keery himself tried to back away from tha
53 Post contains images MD11LuxuryLinr : ~"Superflop, "~ AGM100.. I didn't know GWB was a member of this forum..
54 L.1011 : The truth is, Kerry has said nothing positive so far. Bush was immeditely on the defensive, and he could do nothing but go offensive. Prior to campaig
55 Post contains images Superfly : L.1011: I guess your memory doesn't go back two months. The Bush/Cheney camp started off with the negative campaigning.
56 Cptkrell : Hi, 'Fly; you wrote: "We can debate all day and all night about idealogies but I am just amazed as to why Bush hasn't given one good reason as to why
57 Vafi88 : Superfly, let me make my case on your question. Bush only relies on lies and someone else to make his messages. On all of them, all he says is *I'm GW
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