Tupolev154B2 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1332 posts, RR: 2 Posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1369 times:
We as a nation do live up to our values in many ways. Our justice system is fair and the laws of the land rule this nation, for example in Watergate. There are jobs for everyone and unemployment is the lowest that it has ever been. By law, each person is granted a fair trial, although in actuality it is not. The people rule this nation, not the upper level aristocracy unlike in many other nations. In many cases, we stand up for the freedom and rights of people all around the world. People are able to live free without much government interference in their lives and most of whatever they earn is theirs.
As an American, however I am ashamed at my country's hypocrisy in voicing its values of freedom, liberty and justice. While we do for the most part abide by them, in a huge number of cases we do not, for example providing support for Israel even when they are clearly wrong and attempts to ban the teaching of evolution in schools, which would be a "freedom." As for justice, we are generally unequal in that the rich, white males tend to face milder consequences for crimes that impoverished blacks would otherwise have serve jail time for. A poor immigrant to this great nation would otherwise face discrimination in jobs and society as a "different" person. Society is unequal in many ways, but that is a result of capitalism. Some of our members of society are too arrogant about this nation when in actuality we are on a level playing field with the rest of the world and ought to abide by international laws and treaties.
Thank you very much for reading and feel free to post replies.
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1354 times:
Tupolev, interesting post. Good, too. When judging the US in these areas, one must be careful not to confuse the actions of the government with the actions of the citizens. On the books, the US is the most just and fair government in the world. No other nation has as many nationalities or religious beliefs lving within its borders, and we all live together with relatively peaceful existence. We do have isolated incidence of violence usually involving a few victims and a few perpetrators, but nothing like the bloddy wars you sometimes see in regions where 2 or more religions or races simply cannot coexist. I agree with you that the justice system favors certain groups of people, but I disagree on the people you say. It is not a minority/white parity, but more of a rich/poor problem. A poor white man will not get any breaks in the courtroom, where a rich black man will. I don't think the system is inherently crooked, but judges and juries simply cut upper-class people a break. There's no conspiracy, just poor judgement. We can never expect to be perfect in a society with 250,000,000 people. There's bound to be assholes out there creating isolated incidences that cannot be used to judge the overall fairness of an entire nation.