Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50 Posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1219 times:
Gays can marry, babies can be aborted...but elephants can't be in a zoo...because of ETHICAL concerns?
Ooooooo K then.
________________________________________________________________ Detroit Zoo to Free Elephants on Ethical Grounds
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By Michael Ellis
DETROIT (Reuters) - The Detroit Zoo will become the first major zoo to stop exhibiting elephants on ethical grounds because they can develop arthritis and stress-related ailments in captivity, officials said on Thursday.
The Detroit Zoo has one of the largest facilities in the country, but its Asian elephants Winky and Wanda still have recurring foot problems due to the cold weather, Director Ron Kagen told Reuters.
In the wild, elephants roam vast areas, live in large families, and exhibit some of the same social traits as humans such as forming friendships and mourning for their dead.
"Elephants seem to be intelligent and even social in ways that are similar to humans," Kagen said. "Elephants can suffer from similar things to what we suffer from when we're in difficult environments."
Confined to zoos and circuses, elephants develop physical problems and neurotic behaviors such as rocking back and forth and aggressive behavior, he said.
"If we don't feel like we can (keep elephants), then the question is, who can and how?," he said. "For us, there really is a big question about whether elephants should be in captivity at all."
Kagen likens the change to the decision to stop performances by elephants and chimpanzees years ago at the zoo because of the stress it placed on the animals.
The zoo expects to send Winky and Wanda to an animal sanctuary this summer where they can roam with other elephants.
"I think it is an enormously important precedent," Wayne Pacelle, chief executive officer of the Humane Society of the United States, told Reuters. "It should trigger the examination of the treatment of elephants in other zoos and in circuses throughout the country."
Other zoos have also given away their elephants because they had health problems due to inadequate faculties, Pacelle said. But the Detroit Zoo is the first with sizable grounds and adequate care to end its elephant exhibit on ethical grounds, he said.
WellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1196 times:
If they are already suffering from the problems caused by captivity, the damage has been done. Let the little kiddies enjoy the animals. It's not a zoo without elephants.
And a sanctuary is just a bigger zoo. If they are so concerned about ethics, they'll release them into the wild back in Africa. As the article states, captivity can cause aggression, which will help them survive and protect them from their lack of mobility caused by arthritis, etc.
Doug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3441 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1177 times:
Maiznblu_757 - i don't really get the gay marrisage bit. people need to pay more attention to it? Have you picked up a paper? Turned on the TV? People are paying attention. You just don't happen to agree with whats going on. thats legit, but its also completely unrelated.