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Dub Tzu - The Art Of War  
User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 765 times:

Sorry- can't resist. I read this a few days ago and changed my whole perspective on the China issue where they were holding crew members of VQ-1 hostage.

I, at first, thought that Bush was going way too soft on the Chinese, as did many of my fellow conservatives. But now that this is over, my eyes, and the eyes of many other conservatives, have been opened on this issue. Read on.

"'Remember Sun Tzu, the great Chinese military general / strategist? He says that in war, spies are very important...and 'if you are stronger than your enemy, make yourself appear weak to them.'"

You would be amazed, my friends, at the number of high-powered CEOs that have The Art of War by Sun Tzu in their offices. It's amazing. And the book does say " if you're stronger than your enemy, make yourself appear weak." Since the U.S. spy network, military, NSA, CIA, drone planes, Secret Service, satellite, et cetera, is huge, it instills fears in the Chinese military and other militaries of the world. Therefore, we should make ourselves appear weaker and do something to make us appear weak - like issue a public statement of regret.

In this way, our enemy will then think we are weak, have no resolve, and not consider all the military and economic assets we have. The Chinese have lost their bargaining chips when they lost the 24 airmen, because they gave them away. Conclusion: Bush did the right thing by appearing weak. We know we can beat them using our conventional warfare and our nuke warfare. We have the economy and markets to beat them also.

Dub Snookered 'Em!

We know this more than they do. Even everyday shoppers at Kmart and Wal-Mart are getting mad and boycotting all the Chinese-made products. I would only disagree with one contention here, and that is that Bush appeared weak in the process did the right thing. But he did, according to Sun Tzu, he did undersell our capabilities. He did sandbag the Chinese.

-RL
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I believe Bush knowingly put his more left-center people (SecState Powell, for example) up in front to look like we were genuinely regretful. He was right in holding back his more rightist people (SecDef Rumsfeld) and the military in general.

Yes, he snookered 'em.

And after our people were back on American soil, he said what we've been wanting to say to the Chinese for a long time... stick it.

Another good job by our underestimated (even by me, I admit) President of the United States.





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User currently offlineNicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 746 times:

You really DO need a life, I am posting some new post here everytime Chretien flush the toilet? NO! So please do the same!

User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 745 times:

Again, this thread doesn't concern you. You could always (as I've already stated... GASP!) not open the thread.

User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 742 times:

This thread concerns anyone who wishes to respond, just as it is the right of anyone to start a thread or respond on whatever topic they wish (provided they follow the rules), no matter how insipid.

Charles, SJ



The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 733 times:

... and it's statements like that which perpetuate the stereotypes that make the US look like such a laughing stock in the eyes of the rest of the world.

Charles, SJ



The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 728 times:

Oh great... look what got started.

>This thread concerns anyone who wishes to respond

No, the thread concerns Americans. It doesn't concern a Canadian who has nothing other to say than he doesn't like what I have to say! His post was irrelevant and I was trying to point that out.

Anyway...back to the discussion at hand about how the President snookered the Chinese government.....


User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 728 times:

No, the thread concerns Americans. It doesn't concern a Canadian who has nothing other to say than he doesn't like what I have to say!

So who died and made you administrator then...?

Charles, SJ



The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
User currently offlineBove From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 723 times:

Hey N766ASS...imagine what would happen if the roles were reversed...think the brainwashed fat-arsed American public would allow the Chinese crew to be released without the same sort of requisite chest-thumping nonsense.

Really...find something better to do than remind the world you can out-nuke any country on the planet. Congratulations.



User currently offlineLindbergh Line From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 717 times:

Quality as always N766AS.

Kudos,

Matt


User currently offlineCstarU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 707 times:

Yes, I see...

Alexander the Great


Hannibal


Genghis Khan



...George W. Bush  Laugh out loud


 Yeah sure

You guys crack me up! Big grin Big grin Big grin


User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 691 times:

And this is a prime example of stupidity....

Apologizing does not indicate ones' weakness, but it is good manners and requires backbone and strength of character. Bush did NOT outmanoeuvre or outthink the Chinese (as if he could...) but he merely did the right thing.

Too bad he did it about 10 days too late....

Regards

Ikarus


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