ArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3450 posts, RR: 16 Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1393 times:
I've eaten in some of the best places in the world, but I still don't understand what they deal with it all is... I mean, its great food and service, but its still just food...
I would be just as happy eating at Texas Roadhouse or Olive Garden than to a 3-4-5 whatever star restaurant. The food is not THAT much better... The service is what get on my nerves sometimes. Yeah its cool and all having someone refill your water and cleaning the crumbs off the table with the special tool, but give me a break....
VSLover From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1886 posts, RR: 24 Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1392 times:
yeah, three stars would refer to the michelin guide. la gavroche is the only restaurant in the UK that has 3 stars i believe. very good, and pricey. a la carte, its about 65 pounds, though they have a GREAT tasting menu for 78 pounds i believe.
yes rules is very good too, no stars though, and you can get away from that for 40-45 pounds.
but to ask an american (not NORTH american) is tricky, since we subscribe to a different star system. for example in all of new york city, there are 5 four-star restaurants. the highest number in the city.
they are all wonderful, luckily i have been to most because of work, and hadnt had to pay. thank goodness, but include daniel, bouley, alain ducasse, jean georges, and le bernardin
Andreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 33 Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1334 times:
Ryan, the man's name is BOcuse
Yes, in Baiersbronn / Black Forest, there are 2 Michelin 3 stars: Bareiss and Schwarzwaldstuben, both great but it's the Schwarzwaldstuben that go all the way to the top. Mr. Mueller at Castle Benzberg I don't like...too costly for a lot of show but sometimes pretty average dishes.
In France I had the pleasure to dine at the Freres Troisgros' place.
Sebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3672 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1319 times:
The star grades system is not European. It's the system used by the "Guide Michelin" or "Guide rouge" like already said.
3 Stars is exceptional, and is hard to keep. It means the restaurant is very expensive, and that's why I've never tried such a restaurant.
I have two 3 stars (Buerehiesel and Auberge de l'Ill) and at least one 2 stars (former 3 stars: le crocodile) in my region. I will probably try one of them in the next months with my gf/future wife, anybody knows which one I should try first ?? (I doubt but we never know).
Andreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 33 Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1316 times:
Since you are from Strasbourg:
Why not make a nice trip to Baiersbronn in the Black Forest, book a lovely weekend in the Hotel "Traube" in Tonbach, that's where the Schwarzwaldstuben are, and have dinner there and try Mr. Wohlfahrt, best chef in Germany and arguably one of the best in Europe. Prices are ok, the hotel is nice, on a montain so you have a great view.
BestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 6785 posts, RR: 57 Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1307 times:
The European Michelin star system is only offered to the best of resturaunts. To get even one star you must be the best of the best. For example, Stuttgart only has a single starred establishment.
Ive been in one three star, but Alas, when it was a 2 star. The Fat Duck in Bray, about 15 miles from Heathrow. But Alas, when it was a 2 star. It got its third star earlier this year. http://www.fatduck.co.uk/
One other excellent UK location is 36 on the Quay, about 10 miles from SOU, is somewhere I will return to this november. http://www.36onthequay.co.uk/ Its a one star resturaunt
Andreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 33 Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1287 times:
Well the place is called Baiersbronn, it's right in the middle of the Black Forest, maybe 50-60km from Baden-Baden, and BAD is easy to reach from Basle via the Autobahn A5...maybe 2-3 hours overall, much closer from Strasbourg though.
There are 2 world-famous hotels incl. restaurants, the one "down in the valley" Bareiss, and the one "up the hill" in Tonbach, the Traube with the Schwarzwaldstuben.
In Baiersbronn you have 13 (!!!) Michelin stars, that should be world record for a place like this...Berlin as a major city currently boasts 11 Michelin stars.
With the average apartment in Manhattan now costing nearly $1 million, many New Yorkers have acquired an immunity to sticker shock. That would explain the recorded message you're likely to get at the new sushi restaurant Masa, which says call volume is too high, so try again later. A fixed-price dinner or lunch costs $300 — that's per person, not including drinks, tax and tip. Still, that's a steal when compared with a new breakfast offering at Norma's, at the Parker Meridien hotel.
There, $1,000 will get you a six-egg frittata with lobster, cream and 10 ounces of sevruga caviar. The restaurant staff rings a cowbell when the egg dish is served, lest other diners miss the event. With that tab — more than $1,200 with tax and tip — trumpets might be expected. Norma's executive chef, Emile Castillo, says the item grew out of a desire to offer something more upscale. In the two weeks since the frittata made its debut, only a handful of journalists on assignment have paid for the right to hear the cowbell, although a woman did call to inquire whether the dish — which can be shared — could be made for a birthday party.
This all says less about the considerable wealth of some in the city than it does about the return of shamelessly ostentatious consumption and a curiosity about what the very high-end market will bear.
The folks at Le Parker Meridien realize they won't be selling many $1,000 frittatas. But they also know that plenty of people will be drawn to a place that offers such a choice. And besides, it makes the $28 French toast look like a bargain.
FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2903 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1245 times:
The only official Michelin 3-star restaurants (as of the time I visited) that I have been to are Taillevent in Paris and Louis XV in Monaco.
I say "official" because Michelin has not yet rated any restaurants in New York, although I hear they will soon, and I would expect to see one or more restaurants here receive 3 stars. In any event, I will be very interested to read their assessments.
In the meantime, as VSLover correctly pointed out, our closest equivalent is the New York Times rating system, which awards 4 stars to a select few of the very best restaurants. Currently there are five (Alain Ducasse, Bouley, Daniel, Jean Georges, and Le Bernardin) of which I have been to all except Alain Ducasse. Although I haven't tried it yet either, I would not be surprised to see Per Se, the new restaurant by Thomas Keller of California's French Laundry, join that list.
I actually just had lunch at Bouley yesterday. Although it was for work so I thankfully didn't have to pick up the tab, their $35 prix-fixe lunch menu is actually an incredible deal!