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Have You Ever Been To A 3 *** Star Restaurant?  
User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

I was at "La Gavroche" in London and that was very nice ofcourse. The menues did not have any prices so i do not know what it cost. It was another company who paid for me on a visit to Lloyds HQ.

http://www.le-gavroche.co.uk/main.html



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6413 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

New Orleans is filled with three star and higher rated restaurants, and over the years I've been to most of them at some point, inlcuding:

Brennan's
Emeril's
Victor's
Antoine's
Galatoire's
New Orleans Grille
La Cote Braisserie
Cafe Adelaide
Bella Luna
Brightsen's
Tujague's
Rene Bistro
Dominique's
Commander's Palace
Restaurant August
Bayona
Cobalt

Ah the joys of living in a world class food city.  Smile


Steve/MSY




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User currently offlineBiggles20 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1488 times:

Hello,

I've been to "Rules" in London a couple of times and the food has to have been among the best i've ever had - have any of you heard of it? (I think so)...

Does anyone know how many stars it has - are we talking about michelin stars here? In fact, I know next to nothing about restaurants, etc.

cheers,

biggles


User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3554 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

I've eaten in some of the best places in the world, but I still don't understand what they deal with it all is... I mean, its great food and service, but its still just food...

I would be just as happy eating at Texas Roadhouse or Olive Garden than to a 3-4-5 whatever star restaurant. The food is not THAT much better... The service is what get on my nerves sometimes. Yeah its cool and all having someone refill your water and cleaning the crumbs off the table with the special tool, but give me a break....


User currently offlineVSLover From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

yeah, three stars would refer to the michelin guide. la gavroche is the only restaurant in the UK that has 3 stars i believe. very good, and pricey. a la carte, its about 65 pounds, though they have a GREAT tasting menu for 78 pounds i believe.

yes rules is very good too, no stars though, and you can get away from that for 40-45 pounds.

but to ask an american (not NORTH american) is tricky, since we subscribe to a different star system. for example in all of new york city, there are 5 four-star restaurants. the highest number in the city.

they are all wonderful, luckily i have been to most because of work, and hadnt had to pay. thank goodness, but include daniel, bouley, alain ducasse, jean georges, and le bernardin

[Edited 2004-05-25 00:33:54]

User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1470 times:

MSYTristar - you can't get higher than 3 stars. The US must use a different system to Europe.

BTW, London has several 3 star restaurants. Gordon Ramsey has 3 stars and I'm sure there's a few others with 3 stars.

Best food I ever had was a restaurant in Lyon, France called Paul Becuse. That had 3 stars and was simply awesome. Le Pont De La Tour in Paris is top notch as well.



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User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

Yes, in the US we use 5 stars... so 3 star is like kinda bad/not special....

User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

Ryan, the man's name is BOcuse  Big grin

Yes, in Baiersbronn / Black Forest, there are 2 Michelin 3 stars: Bareiss and Schwarzwaldstuben, both great but it's the Schwarzwaldstuben that go all the way to the top. Mr. Mueller at Castle Benzberg I don't like...too costly for a lot of show but sometimes pretty average dishes.

In France I had the pleasure to dine at the Freres Troisgros' place.



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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1412 times:

Yes, i mean from the Michelin guide, or Guide Rouge that it is called today (?)....

User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3675 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

The star grades system is not European. It's the system used by the "Guide Michelin" or "Guide rouge" like already said.

3 Stars is exceptional, and is hard to keep. It means the restaurant is very expensive, and that's why I've never tried such a restaurant.


I have two 3 stars (Buerehiesel and Auberge de l'Ill) and at least one 2 stars (former 3 stars: le crocodile) in my region. I will probably try one of them in the next months with my gf/future wife, anybody knows which one I should try first ?? (I doubt but we never know).


User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

Since you are from Strasbourg:

Why not make a nice trip to Baiersbronn in the Black Forest, book a lovely weekend in the Hotel "Traube" in Tonbach, that's where the Schwarzwaldstuben are, and have dinner there and try Mr. Wohlfahrt, best chef in Germany and arguably one of the best in Europe. Prices are ok, the hotel is nice, on a montain so you have a great view.



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 6956 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1396 times:


The European Michelin star system is only offered to the best of resturaunts. To get even one star you must be the best of the best. For example, Stuttgart only has a single starred establishment.

Ive been in one three star, but Alas, when it was a 2 star. The Fat Duck in Bray, about 15 miles from Heathrow. But Alas, when it was a 2 star. It got its third star earlier this year. http://www.fatduck.co.uk/

One other excellent UK location is 36 on the Quay, about 10 miles from SOU, is somewhere I will return to this november. http://www.36onthequay.co.uk/ Its a one star resturaunt

I was also in a 1* resturaunt in Toulouse, Les Jardins de l'opera which was the best meal I have ever had. Michelin also give it four red forks 'Top class comfort and pleasant restaurant'. I could not recommend it more highly. http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/gbr/dyn/controller/poiPerformPage?idx=5&id=F31040R027&productId=41102&E_mp=210504147lS20J404146122058277609MAPPOIB2C3a103gbr541102161u1103EUR0000000bVG91bG91c2U10101b0lREP_TA_225003001417646SERREP11100510010000l0943.611475081.4538371212




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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3675 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1384 times:

Andreas,

I will perhaps try this. I love that region. Is there a web site ?


User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

But of course, here it comes! And it's not that far from you, either!

http://www.traube-tonbach.de/traube_1024/traube/home/home.htm



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User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

Hey Andreas,

I don't know much about that area. I live in Basel. How far away is it from Basel? It looks damn nice!!
Could be great to bring the gf there once..


User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

Well the place is called Baiersbronn, it's right in the middle of the Black Forest, maybe 50-60km from Baden-Baden, and BAD is easy to reach from Basle via the Autobahn A5...maybe 2-3 hours overall, much closer from Strasbourg though.

There are 2 world-famous hotels incl. restaurants, the one "down in the valley" Bareiss, and the one "up the hill" in Tonbach, the Traube with the Schwarzwaldstuben.

In Baiersbronn you have 13 (!!!) Michelin stars, that should be world record for a place like this...Berlin as a major city currently boasts 11 Michelin stars.



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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3675 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1371 times:

They don't talk about the prices  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I guess it's not free ...


User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1371 times:

Thanks very much for the information Andreas  Big thumbs up

I will call them and ask how much a room costs for a weekend. It will probably give me a heart attack when I hear the prices.


User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1369 times:

Yes they have, try this:

http://www.traube-tonbach.de/pdf/traube_preisliste.pdf



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User currently offlineZweed From Netherlands, joined Apr 2004, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1363 times:

Dont they say something like:
1 star - worth a stop
2 stars - worth an extra long way
3 stars - worth a trip of its own


User currently offlineVSLover From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1354 times:

speaking of food, this is from an editorial in todays NYTimes (an excerpt):

found at http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/25/opinion/25TUE4.html

With the average apartment in Manhattan now costing nearly $1 million, many New Yorkers have acquired an immunity to sticker shock. That would explain the recorded message you're likely to get at the new sushi restaurant Masa, which says call volume is too high, so try again later. A fixed-price dinner or lunch costs $300 — that's per person, not including drinks, tax and tip. Still, that's a steal when compared with a new breakfast offering at Norma's, at the Parker Meridien hotel.

There, $1,000 will get you a six-egg frittata with lobster, cream and 10 ounces of sevruga caviar. The restaurant staff rings a cowbell when the egg dish is served, lest other diners miss the event. With that tab — more than $1,200 with tax and tip — trumpets might be expected. Norma's executive chef, Emile Castillo, says the item grew out of a desire to offer something more upscale. In the two weeks since the frittata made its debut, only a handful of journalists on assignment have paid for the right to hear the cowbell, although a woman did call to inquire whether the dish — which can be shared — could be made for a birthday party.

This all says less about the considerable wealth of some in the city than it does about the return of shamelessly ostentatious consumption and a curiosity about what the very high-end market will bear.

The folks at Le Parker Meridien realize they won't be selling many $1,000 frittatas. But they also know that plenty of people will be drawn to a place that offers such a choice. And besides, it makes the $28 French toast look like a bargain.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 6956 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1353 times:

3 stars - consider selling your home
2 stars - Dont upgrade your car this year or next
1 stars - honestly boss, it was a business lunch with our best client




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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2948 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 1334 times:

The only official Michelin 3-star restaurants (as of the time I visited) that I have been to are Taillevent in Paris and Louis XV in Monaco.

I say "official" because Michelin has not yet rated any restaurants in New York, although I hear they will soon, and I would expect to see one or more restaurants here receive 3 stars. In any event, I will be very interested to read their assessments.

In the meantime, as VSLover correctly pointed out, our closest equivalent is the New York Times rating system, which awards 4 stars to a select few of the very best restaurants. Currently there are five (Alain Ducasse, Bouley, Daniel, Jean Georges, and Le Bernardin) of which I have been to all except Alain Ducasse. Although I haven't tried it yet either, I would not be surprised to see Per Se, the new restaurant by Thomas Keller of California's French Laundry, join that list.

I actually just had lunch at Bouley yesterday. Although it was for work so I thankfully didn't have to pick up the tab, their $35 prix-fixe lunch menu is actually an incredible deal!

Great editorial from today's Times, by the way.  Smile



Common sense is not so common. -Voltaire
User currently offlineVSLover From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1330 times:

ooh, the bouley $35 lunch is amazing! if you can afford the time for such a drawn out affair  Smile

i'm sure the $300 price-fixed lunch at Masa in the Time Warner Building will be such a bargain too!

haha


User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2948 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1322 times:

For Bouley, I'll make time.  Smile


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