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User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 24
Posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

It really didn't outline much, or say much. I thought he really missed out on giving an explanation on what to do, and what's going on in Iraq. It didn't give a sense of direction. It could have done more. Also the venue on the War College was a very safe atmosphere, im sure he felt very safe among the military there. Cant blame him for that, but it gives the impression he is afraid of a more public venue.


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4182 times:

Galaxy5:
Cant blame him for that, but it gives the impression he is afraid of a more public venue.

Well has it occured to you that George W. Bush is probably the most hated man to ever occupy the White House?
Half the country hates him and most of the world hates him. You will never see Bush giving speeches outside in Manhattan, Chicago, San Francisco or even London. Clinton did and the people loved him. Reagan did and people greeted him with respect.



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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4176 times:

I thought he really missed out on giving an explanation on what to do, and what's going on in Iraq.

I don't think ANYBODY knows what on earth is going on in Iraq, especially the President  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

We know, you hate bush Blah Blah Blah. How about using a little critical thinking and actually analyze something instead of rhetoric.


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

Galaxy5:
You already answered the question you had for me in your in your original post.




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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21654 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4172 times:

I wasn't able to see the speech, and whitehouse.gov doesn't have any transcript of it. Does anyone know where I could find one?


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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4506 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4153 times:

I watched it but had a very hard time hearing what he was saying. his speeches have become so predictable that all I heard was "terrorist" "dictator" "blah, blah, blah".

I was hoping he'd at least present a clear plan. If he did, I guess I'll have to read yahoo news to figure out what it was because I sure didn't hear it in his speech very well.


This gave me a headache, literally. I'm so tired of this. I can't wait till we get a new man in the white house.

which reminds me:


Anyone notice that Bush is beginning to adopt some of Kerry's ideas? Now Bush is going back to the UN? The same one that he scorned and Bush supporters despise? Now he's going back to it...that was Kerry's idea, and no doubt the Bushies will applaud him for it.


bush is moving left. And I can only think that he's doing it to make Kerry look more like a right-winger than himself, it's political chess. I'm tired of this game.


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8292 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4150 times:

Well has it occured to you that George W. Bush is probably the most hated man to ever occupy the White House?

One word: Hoover.



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User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4153 times:

Mir, I got it and offer the following paraphrase:

Blah blah blah blah blah, difficult days ahead, blah blah blah....ouch my chin hurts, blah blah blah, realm of liberty, stay the course, blah blah blah...


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4148 times:

N766UA:
Hoover was disliked by many here in the United States but didn't have the world hating us Dubya has done.



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User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3986 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4134 times:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/05/20040524-10.html

I thought this part of the speech was interesting.

"I sent American troops to Iraq to defend our security, not to stay as an occupying power. I sent American troops to Iraq to make its people free, not to make them American"

He should look at some of his own speeches, he sent our troops to oust Saddam and get rid of the supposed WMD Iraq had.



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User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4131 times:

hmm, i must have watched a different speech.

first, this one wasnt in "public" it was infront of an entire audience of uniformed individuals. second, i heard "blah blah, dictator, blah, evil....blah blah blah" with about five different pronounciations of abu ghraib.

but seriously: as per usual, short of substance, long of foreign sounding names.

what else would one expect from a wholly unorganized, distrustful, scheming administration?


User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4105 times:

Galaxy5,

I've seen you write some pretty ultra-conservative stuff in the past. But you started this thread with a very objective observation - and I'm impressed!

Everything political on here is SOOOO partisan. Glad to see someone who usually supports the Prez just make state an opinion that rises above partisan politics.

CBS news reports that the speech was filled with many "goals" but absolutely no "strategy" on how to achieve them.

If he would just level with us about a PLAN, his approval scores would jump 15% and stay there.

Kevin



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User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21478 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

As far as I know, members of the armed forces are prohibited by law to publicly show dissent with the civilian leadership.

So speaking in front of military personnel may be his final refuge in terms of public speaking outside of republican party rallies...  Wink/being sarcastic

Haven´t watched the speech, however. It seems I haven´t missed much.


User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4070 times:

I was actually wishing he'd give us more word on what's going on, but I guess we've seen everything... The plan wasn't clear, there were many mistakes that he could've done BEFORE the start of war (there's already a debate on whether or not it should've been started, leave that argument out) like Consult the UN or get monetary aid...

I loved his pronounciations of Abu Ghraib prison... That plan is just plain stupid, it's wasting money.



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User currently offlineJutes85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4065 times:

All of his speeches are sounding the same, stay the course, we will succeed, yada yada yada.

User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

Wow. I can't believe I missed another one of his speeches.. I didn't know he was even having one.

Don't they advertise these damn things anymore?

Then again, what's the point?  Insane



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User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4058 times:

I didn't catch it... but did he tell us where the WMD's are?

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

I didn't get to see the speech. I did read the transcript. I am encouraged by a little more specific information that the President laid out, but I think it still ignores the reality on the ground that there isn't anyone in reality to hand over the nation to. This provisional council is a joke, and Iraqi's don't take it seriously, seems to me.

A few observations:

" He and other terrorists know that Iraq is now the central front in the war on terror, and we must understand that as well."

The invasion of Iraq had no real link to the war on terror. None. Iraq did not participate in 9/11; Iraq had not threatened us in any way. It was fought on the PRETEXT of the war on terror, to settle old scores.

It's now central to the war on terror, in a sense, because our invasion has let in all kinds of terrorists. I thought that's what we're there to prevent?

"America fully supports Mr. Brahimi's efforts, and I have instructed the Coalition Provisional Authority to assist him in every way possible."

The President of the United States is instructing leaders of another nation on what to do. Doesn't that strike anyone else as absurd and hypocritical. And if this is the case, will Iraq really have any independence after June 30th, and this transfer of power? And how truly independent will Iraq be, with 150,000 foreign troops on her soil?

Bush mades some steps, but most Americans want to know one thing: when will OUR troops be coming home? What is the timetable for that?

I don't think this speech will bounce the President much in the polls. It's still to vague (a favorite word of his dad  Smile ), and there's still far too many open-ended questions ,and far too much combat still taking place to think that this thing is close to being over.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4038 times:

Well has it occured to you that George W. Bush is probably the most hated man to ever occupy the White House?

Nixon?
Taft?
Clinton?



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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4028 times:

Nixon?
Taft?
Clinton?


Nixon. Hardly. He was more pitied than hated by the American people, and most of the world didn't give a shit about him?

Taft? Huh?

Clinton? YOU hated him. Conservatives hated him, so bad that for 8 1/2 years, they hounded the man. But most of the world liked Bill Clinton. And the American people overall didn't hate him, else he wouldn't have gotten elected twice.

Now, Bush has more than half the American people loathing him, and 90% of the world. Quite an achievement for a man who had all the goodwill the world could give him after 9/11.

Probably the most loathed U.S. President was Hoover, because of the perception that he wasn't to do much to fight off the Great Depression. Next to him, the most hated may have been Lincoln, since a whole region of the nation hated him, simply because of his policy on slavery.


User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4022 times:

Nixon?
Taft?
Clinton?


Nixon was to go down in the top 15 best if it weren't for Watergate...

Taft wasn't a bad president, not many hated him, he pushed for equal rights, the only group I can think of that were against him, were feminists...

Clinton wasn't the best president but he was a good one, many loved him because he cared about the American people, and he also pushed very hard for the middle eastern peace. Before The Monica scandal, he would've gone as one of the top 10 best as well... You had the Dot Com boom, the peace talks as well as the VERY LOW 3% unemployement...


Hoover wasn't the worst of the worst either. He was caught in the bad part of the Depression, he didn't take nearly as many risks as FDR did, so the rise from the depression was slow, everyone hated him because of Hoovervilles... Plus, he wasn't hated NEARLY as much around the world as our current president... I know, I had to write essays on these topics just a few short weeks ago...



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4014 times:

Superfly


"Well has it occured to you that George W. Bush is probably the most hated man to ever occupy the White House?"

The November election will decide that, I would say that inside the US after the scandals that plagued Clinton that he is still less popular amongst American's than GW Bush.

." You will never see Bush giving speeches outside in Manhattan, Chicago, San Francisco or even London. Clinton did and the people loved him. Reagan did and people greeted him with respect "

Senator Hilary Clinton got booed of the Stage at the Concert for Heroes held at Madison Square Garden right after 9-11, her counter part Senator Chuck Schumer (also a Democrat) was cheered. Former President Bill Clinton also spoke at that concert and was showered with boos.

They now only make "safe" speeches even in their "Home State" of New York.







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User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4010 times:

I can tell you that Clinton was much more popular than Bush Jr. is right now.
Most europeans really liked that man. He really listened to what the rest of the world has to say. Bush doesn't give a shit about what the rest of the world has to say.
And Bush is more a cowboy than a president. That is for sure. He should have stayed home on his ranch doing his shit. I must admit that I was qite interested when Bush became prez. I thought he would do a good job. But I was wrong..

Clinton wasn't very smart when he lied about Lewinsky. That was pretty stupid, but that man did a hell of a good job when he was the president.

Man I wish that McCain were running for president. He would be much better than both Kerry and Bush together.


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7958 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

The way how Galaxy started this thread shows one more time that even though he supports Mr Bush, he is willing to maintain a critical distance to the Administration, and I appreciate that.

I haven't read the transcript yet, but I'm curious if he announced a closer cooperation with allied nations in the Middle East, such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait. It's not unlikely that those countries have some ideas how to calm the situation in Iraq.
It's hardly imaginable that the momentary lack of responses suggest a lack of enthusiasm.



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25 Cba : The speech was hollow, like all of his other speeches. He stands up, reads the rhetoric from the teleprompter, his supporters applaud. Nothing special
26 JGPH1A : Re: If you've seen one Bush speech, you've seen them all... Curiously true - and the audience ALWAYS seem to be dressed in uniform. Does the man never
27 Post contains images Sabenapilot : Yes, he does, JPGH1A! Don't you remember that speech where there was a teenage boy standing behind him looking very bored? Anyay, a very uninspiring s
28 Mdsh00 : I haven't listened to the speech but I'm sure it was the same drivel that Bush always delivers. "The US 'liberators' of Iraq will give the newly indep
29 Sabenapilot : It's the irony of it that is striking, Mdsh00. Don't you see the US has a catch 22 situation with Abu Graib? Keep it as it is and it will become a ver
30 Post contains images Mdsh00 : Oh I defnitely think it's a great call to tear it down, for posterity's sake. But, being realistic, you need some type of prison. My point is that it'
31 Sabenapilot : Yes, you are 100 correct of course: Iraq (like any country) needs prisons too, but the whole situation at Abu Graib, the way it was handled and now th
32 Mdsh00 : I agree. I didn't vote for him last time and I'm not planning on it in November either. As for Iraq, it is just one big rhetoric filled mess on ALL si
33 Post contains images Qantas077 : just read his speech, same shit just a different location! i am not to farmiliar with US politics but i know you are voting this year. Question-Will B
34 SupraZachAir : Man I wish that McCain were running for president. He would be much better than both Kerry and Bush together. That was weird... Just before I read you
35 JGPH1A : Judging from his last run at the Presidency in 2000, I was very impressed with John McCain - if he were running against Kerry, I'd vote McCain (if I w
36 Boeing nut : Seems like he said the same damn thing a year ago.
37 Alpha 1 : Wrong, Boeing nut, a year ago, he was telling us the war was all but over. And, in his mind, it was. I watched some of the highlights on the news last
38 Post contains images Shawn Patrick : A Kerry + McCain ticket would be an awesome combination, unfortunately McCain doesn't want it.
39 Post contains images JeffM : McCain was a prisoner once, I'm hopeful he is not dumb enough to step into a sinking ship as well... LOL
40 Jaysit : Does anyone pay any attention to what this bumbling bumpkin liar of a President reads any more of his ridiculously scripted speeches? Other than the u
41 Post contains images JeffM : What's the matter Jay? Looking for something new to jack off to?
42 Shawn Patrick : I'm very pleased with the political shift I've seen here in the past months/years. Most of the American members posting to these political topics used
43 JeffM : Shawn, you have not a clue what you are talking about. Your perspective is just as biased as anyone's. Saying what you think is a shift is nothing mor
44 Diamond : I am not the original author of this letter (and it is NOT copyrighted), but I do know the guy who wrote it. It is what I would write to anyone who is
45 Jaysit : No one with any intelligence believes the man on Iraq any more. He lied on WMDs, he lied about the "end of the war," he lied about his wretched Secret
46 Sabenapilot : Very impressive lettre that was, Diamond... The man writing that lettre has more talent in his right finger, than a whole team of Bush' speech writers
47 Post contains images VectorVictor : I always say - any letter without a Janeane Garofalo quote is a letter that shouldn't be mailed.
48 Alpha 1 : Great VectorVictor. A one liner to explain away what a lot of Americans feel. What a strok of intellectual genius on your part. Shows again how intell
49 NWA742 : Shows again how intellectually bankrupt those who blindly follow Bush have become. Speaking of intelligence, maybe you should realize the fact that no
50 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Speaking of intelligence, maybe you should realize the fact that not all Bush followers follow the man blindly. If you don't blindly follow the man, N
51 Post contains images NWA742 : If you don't blindly follow the man, NWA742, then I am not talking about you, is that not correct? And if that's the case, why are you even responding
52 Post contains images Alpha 1 : I'm beginning to think you're a closet hardcore liberal. I could care less what you or anyone else thinks. I'm certianly no closet hardcore liberal, i
53 Diamond : NWA742 - have you been out of touch for a while? When you said, " ... I'm talking about the hardcore left which will do nothing short of killing thems
54 Post contains images NWA742 : I could care less what you or anyone else thinks. I'm certianly no closet hardcore liberal, in the mold of Superfly I have said ,ad nausum, and with e
55 NWA742 : NWA742 - have you been out of touch for a while? When you said, " ... I'm talking about the hardcore left which will do nothing short of killing thems
56 Post contains images Alpha 1 : I'm just suspecting it Alpha 1, since you've been doing nothing but bashing Bush and conservatives, and that's what liberals do most. Just putting two
57 Diamond : Guys, we just need to have a beer and agree not to talk politics for a while. We're getting nowhere.
58 Post contains images JeffM : "...The left doesn't have to make up bullshit about Bush, as the right did about Clinton...." LOL alpha.....you mean all that Monica stuff was made up
59 Alpha 1 : And then we here from the right-wing mindless in the flesh. Thanks for proving my point, JeffM. I couldn't have asked for you to jump in at a better t
60 NWA742 : Well, then you need to go back to kindergarten, and do your arithmitic again, because 2 and 2 don't equal 7, my friend. Typical conservative crapola:
61 Post contains images Alpha 1 : I don't care how you treat me, I'm not affected by internet forums. Sure. Right. That's why you want the liberals on here, and those who think Bush is
62 JeffM : "As the 9/11 Commission tries to uncover what kept intelligence agencies from preventing September 11, it has overlooked two vital factors: Jamie Gore
63 NWA742 : Sure. Right. That's why you want the liberals on here, and those who think Bush is an asshole to "shut the hell up." I'm not convinced. What, stating
64 Diamond : NWA742 - I have a serious question for you. This isn't a taunt or a trap. I just want to know how you really feel. (I would ask JeffM too, but he woul
65 Post contains images DLKAPA : Diamond, I give you permission to issue the Liberal Underdogs Challenge
66 JeffM : No one gives a rats ass about your school boy liberal underdog challenge. LOL.. As if anyone cared Eric.
67 Diamond : . . . but he would run and hide
68 DLKAPA : No one gives a rats ass about your school boy liberal underdog challenge. LOL.. Nobody cares, or nobody can answer to the challenge?
69 QIguy24 : "...The left doesn't have to make up bullshit about Bush, as the right did about Clinton...." LOL alpha.....you mean all that Monica stuff was made up
70 NWA742 : When you see President Bush address the nation, as he did last night, do you feel proud? It's not just when he stands in front of a camera and makes a
71 JeffM : Clinton did a lot of great things. And from my perspective, a lot of bad things. And yes, to many, he did screw up the US, and made plenty of enemies.
72 NWA742 : I find it very funny that some in here are saying that Clinton was a bad prez because of the things with Monica. Damn! It's the mans private life. You
73 QIguy24 : NWA742, Does the man even know what politics is? He sure didn't when he stepped in to office. He didn't know a shit about what happened outside the US
74 Diamond : NWA742 -as much as I disagree with you, thanks for answering the question directly. One point of clarification: " ... to have a president who doesn't
75 NWA742 : Does the man even know what politics is? He sure didn't when he stepped in to office. He didn't know a shit about what happened outside the US and sti
76 NWA742 : I feel strongly that Bush presents a humble, God-fearing, friendly good 'ol boy from Texas - while his inner circle work VERY DILIGENTLY in his politi
77 DLKAPA : I feel proud to have a president who doesn't always act in his political self interest, he's a man who stands up for his beliefs. uhhh, I think it cou
78 DLKAPA : The man is still sticking to his beliefs that he should fight terrorists and others who threaten our safety, Tell me, how did the al-saamoud missle th
79 NWA742 : uhhh, I think it could be argued that he is ONLY acting on his political self-interest. Just look at his re-election ads. What, you expect him to not
80 QIguy24 : NWA742 I didn't say that I knew more than he did. I think Bush and I stand probalby on the same level when it comes to politics. He didn't even konw t
81 NWA742 : Tell me, how did the al-saamoud missle threaten our safety? The damn thing only flew 20 miles past the limit on half of the trials (cnn), and how did
82 NWA742 : I think Bush and I stand probalby on the same level when it comes to politics. Haha! Much better olguy24, now you claim to know just as much as he do
83 DLKAPA : Let's compare Bush's ads to Kerry's ads, shall we? Bush: Kerry is this, Kerry did that, I was president during 9/11. Enough said. There is nothing abo
84 NWA742 : Let's compare Bush's ads to Kerry's ads, shall we? Bush: Kerry is this, Kerry did that, I was president during 9/11. Enough said. There is nothing abo
85 QIguy24 : NWA742 So, killing thousands of terrorists is getting nowwhere? It's gotta start somewhere, unless you want to let these assholes try and pull another
86 DLKAPA : What threatened us was Saddam's loyalty to those who want to attack us. Saddam would sell nuclear weapons to anybody as long as he got money. He const
87 Post contains images NWA742 : War is not ony the solution... But hey you are a Bush supporter, so I don't blame you for thinking this Uh, with TERRORISTS, war pretty much is the on
88 DLKAPA : Bush's ads use facts to show the public all the bad things about him, for one purpose, to kill his votes I've never seen bush in any sort of debate, I
89 NWA742 : Prove it with a credibly cited source. I challenge you. You and I both know Saddam is a terrorist, he tortured, murdered millions of his own people. H
90 DLKAPA : Of course, being a liberal, you probably think that terrorists can change into good little friends if you treat them nice. Stop this liberal cut-down
91 NWA742 : I've never seen bush in any sort of debate, I've never seen him talking of his platform anywhere, where is it? At least kerry has debated his platform
92 NWA742 : Stop this liberal cut-down bullshit. I've never cut you down for being a conservative, and any liberal who cuts down a conservative just for being a c
93 Post contains images QIguy24 : Haha! Much better olguy24, now you claim to know just as much as he does. This gets better and better. Yeah doesn't it. It shows how stupid that man i
94 DLKAPA : Ignore what that guy says. Until he (and you) learn to accept a different opinion, keep it out. And I don't care if it was or wasn't directed at me. B
95 QIguy24 : Look pre-9/11, they weren't being messed with, and look what they did. Hmmmmm.... Havent you ever thought that it was the US politics in the MEA that
96 DLKAPA : Gentleman, it has been fun debating with all of you, but I'm off to bed. g'nite DLKAPA
97 Post contains images JeffM : Yea, do what Eric says, or he will threaten you with a "liberal underdog" challenge... ! {shock, horror...} I find it amusing that all these highly sk
98 Post contains images QIguy24 : JeffM, hehe, Yes I will do that Just because we are airline employees we don't know anything about politics and what happens around the world? That is
99 Post contains images JeffM : Oh no, it is really obvious just how intelligent you guys are. Really. It is amazing.
100 Post contains images QIguy24 : I know. I only had to take 2. grade 4 times to be this intelligent. BTW Jeff, What is your view in this case? [Edited 2004-05-26 08:00:28]
101 Drgreen757 : You foolish Americans, I have hid my weapons of mass destructions to turn you against your president...my plan is working perfectly...you will never f
102 Mark777300 : I'm going to step into this at a hot time. That the US needs to go after terroists needs no discussions from anyone, that is a must in our priorities,
103 Post contains images Diamond : JeffM, I mean this in the kindest possible way . . .
104 Zak : big props to galaxy5 for being the first "conservative" on the board to say something bad about bush in ages. didnt see the speech so cant comment on
105 BN747 : Diamond... LOL !!! That was brilliant! Sadly, it seems it may very well be true! John C. McGinley (on the left) great actor. I don't know the other gu
106 JeffM : BTW Jeff, What is your view in this case? As to his last speech, I did not view it. While many of the liberals here think I follow the man blindly, th
107 Alpha 1 : While many of the liberals here think I follow the man blindly, they could not be further from the truth.. The evidence on here points in the other di
108 Jaysit : Back to his speech and his past speeches. The man is a liar. Either that, or he is a fool. 10,000 + dead versus one blowjob from a fat girl. Put all o
109 JeffM : Alpha, I was referring to compromises that will be made by following presidents, not the current one. I believe once set into a course of action as we
110 Galaxy5 : I'm very pleased with the political shift I've seen here in the past months/years. Most of the American members posting to these political topics used
111 NWA742 : I didn't go to all those fancy scools like he did. Still I know just as much as e does. Do you even hear the bullshit that comes from your mouth? You
112 Post contains images DLKAPA : Have you ever stopped to think that it was NOT the US's fault for 9/11, Not our fault? Not our fault that our administration ignored the evidence pres
113 NWA742 : Not our fault? Not our fault that our administration ignored the evidence presented before the attacks that the attacks were iminent? That was the fau
114 CPH-R : DLKAPA, for one, I agree that the government failed to respond to just about every warning signal & ignored just about every warning coming from frien
115 Post contains images DLKAPA : I'm NOT saying that our system is perfect, I'm saying that 9/11 was not our fault, it was not our system's fault, it was the fault of a group of terro
116 JeffM : Wow, I agree with Eric! Clinton should have acted sooner. I mean they tried to blow up the WTC once and failed. What did he do? Good for you boy, ther
117 DLKAPA : uhh, jeff, I think you might have missed it: When Clinton left office his administration very extensively briefed the incomming Bush administration on
118 CPH-R : When Clinton left office his administration very extensively briefed the incomming Bush administration on possible threats. Top on the list was Al-qua
119 JeffM : Well Eric your wrong once again. If you call the pitiful brief by the Clinton administration "extensive" then you DO lead a sheltered life. You nor I
120 CPH-R : We were attacked numerous times while Clinton was in office. Was he distracted? Some will say so.... and we know what they were, so I don't have to re
121 AGM100 : I am not sure how much more clear our President could be. He defined the enemy clearly, he defined our action clearly, and he defined the future plan
122 Jaysit : "But I'm sure being the fool you are, and focused on the blow jobs, that you can't see the tie in." Hear, hear. The confused and bewildered speaketh.
123 JeffM : Nice try, but the first WTC attack was on February 26, 1993. And Clinton's administration knew about the bombing on February 6th. but failed to act. Y
124 NWA742 : I'm amazed at your ability to completely contradict yourself in just one sentence. Bullcrap, I didn't contradict myself. Our system might not have bee
125 Jaysit : "Your trying to make it seem wise that he weasled out after the attack on USS Cole? Remember? The one that killed 17 crewmembers and wounding 39 while
126 Lehpron : I just read bits of his speech, every time I look at the guy, he looks lost, like he was told at last minute to do a speech and given the script just
127 Diamond : " ... Nice try, but the first WTC attack was on February 26, 1993. And Clinton's administration knew about the bombing on February 6th. but failed to
128 Post contains links JeffM : "FBI foreknowledge: In the course of the trial it was revealed that the FBI had an informant, an Egyptian man named Emad Salem, who was involved with
129 Post contains links Diamond : JeffM, you're joking right? I asked you to provide a RELIABLE source for your propagandist comment. Instead you provided a commend found on Wikpedia ?
130 Post contains images WellHung : I'd actually like to get back to the speech issue for a second to let those of you who say the speech was poor know you are wrong... a poll on foxnews
131 JeffM : Wikpedia is probably as right as CNN, or any other of the lefty propaganda machines. Look it up yourself if your that interested. LOL.... diamond..cut
132 Diamond : Cute? Finally we agree on something.
133 JeffM : LOL.... not exactly. I kind of suspected...but now I know.
134 Post contains images Diamond : What you "know" is that you've wasted everyone's time with your unsubstantiated "I-hate-the-world-and-everyone-in-it" rhetoric. More than once I asked
135 Alpha 1 : He defined the enemy clearly.. I don't think he did. If it were defined clearly enough, we'd still be using all our resources in Afghanistan, going af
136 Post contains images QIguy24 : Nice try, but the first WTC attack was on February 26, 1993. And Clinton's administration knew about the bombing on February 6th. but failed to act. S
137 Mark777300 : to Alpha 1 Well said! Good, I'm glad to hear another American who has similar views to mine. I guess in the eyes of these so called Patriots will cons
138 Lehpron : Some people have good intentions and bad actions, and since actions speak louder than words...apart from Bush's speeches, I think our Admin was a bit
139 Alpha 1 : I guess in the eyes of these so called Patriots will consider us to be un-patriotic. I think most of those on the right, that you refer to here, ARE
140 Galaxy5 : Patriotism also doesnt mean: criticise and Bash your government at every turn and blindly encourage dissent just for the hell of it. Dissent just for
141 Klaus : Galaxy5: Patriotism also doesnt mean: criticise and Bash your government at every turn and blindly encourage dissent just for the hell of it. As far a
142 Alpha 1 : Patriotism also doesnt mean: criticise and Bash your government at every turn. Galaxy5, it means being critical of that you find wrong. And, most of w
143 Galaxy5 : There you go again alpha, making wild assumptions about people, I dont have "stars in my eyes" about Bush, I wasn't refering directly to you with my s
144 Concord977 : Galaxy5, There are indeed some people who will "bash" Bush at every opportunity. I am not one of them. I think you are getting challenged by people be
145 AA777 : Poor Mr. Bush.... Go to war, then create a scandal. THEN, make a speech that addresses Abu Ghraib, and Horribly HORRIBLY mispronounce to word. I mean,
146 Post contains images Alpha 1 : There you go again alpha, making wild assumptions about people, I dont have "stars in my eyes" about Bush, I wasn't refering directly to you with my s
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