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Indian Railways Bans All Plastic Products  
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1193 times:

Laloo Prasad Yadav, the new Indian Minister for Railways, has made his first official act of office an order to ban all plastic and styrofoam products from Indian Railways property.

Plastic cups used to serve drinks to passengers aboard trains and railways stations will be replaced by earthenware pots manufactured in Yadav's home state of Bihar.

Plastic plates used to serve food will now be replaced with leaves. Yadav believes that this will help Indian Railways be more environmentally friendly.

Yadav is known for his quirkiness following his stint as Chief Minister of Bihar state when he commandeered Patna Golf Club's course for use as a grazing ground for goats. He is currently facing criminal charges for embezzlement of approximately Rs.100 million (US$2 million).

Among other programs announced on his first day of office were plans to grant free systemwide travel to all senior citizens, freedom fighters and journalists.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1040525/asp/frontpage/story_3289618.asp
http://www.webindia123.com/news/m_details.asp?newscode=54423&catcode=ENG3&subcatcode=
http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnews&showcomments=1&id=18840

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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1183 times:

Is May 24/25 in India the equivalent of April 1st in the West?  Smile


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

Among other programs announced on his first day of office were plans to grant free systemwide travel to all senior citizens, freedom fighters and journalists

Freedom fighters  Confused



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineKEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1174 times:

Unfortunately the word "freedom fighters" has been hijacked by media to somehow defend terrorist groups with a justified "cause". But in this case I don't think it's remotely related to that. I'm sure they mean the army.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1170 times:

I am hoping he means soldiers too Keno.


OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1148 times:

it is a very important and good sign when a country as large as india starts thinking about enviromental issues. i am glad that the new indian government is aware of the importance of such issues and, hopefully, proves to be a leader in enviromental progress in asia over the coming years.


10=2
User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1136 times:

L-188,

In India, that term is usually used for those who resisted British Colonialism, whether through armed struggle or Gandhi's method. My grandfather fit somewhere between the two.



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1131 times:

If this really happens it is fantastic news:

- trash around the railways will be reduced
- using alernative resources was almost forgotten after polyethine conquered the world.

I once talked with and Indian army official on a research project. He told me that 'Indians are used to littering', like their clay cups, babana leaves etc... Finally, so-called 'modernity' and the idea to produce all this with the industry came: now, they still do the same but the stuff (polyethine) does just not rotten. They were used to take jute bags to shopping, today they use polyethine bags...

Idiots like Coke and Pepsi are trying to oust the working Indian bottle refund system by introducing their 2 littre plastic bottles... I hope India does tackle such attempts

There are so many means to live environmental friendly, and a country like India will make big benefits. Environment does not have to be in contradiction to development, indeed India can go for 'sustained growth' in taking a leaddership in this alternative sector. Polution and unsustained growth is a big problem. Our kids will be happy!  Smile Save the planet  Smile

After living long in Germany: this is a very good example for a relatively quite well functioning environmental sector

Edit: The term freedom fighter in India of course solely refers to the anti-colonial struggle

[Edited 2004-05-26 12:21:01]

User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1111 times:

Sean this project is not Laloo prasad Yadavs idea. Indeed it has been around for a long long time and environmental groups and various NGO's have been campaigning for DECADES to introduce this measure on the railways. This would not only reduce the pollution, it would also create employment in the areas surrounding the railway stations. The biggest plus point is that the Railways cleanup bill also comes down.

It is also incorrect to say that all earthenware would be sourced from Bihar. The Railways has specific rules specifying that local items have to be sourced from the region itself.


If anything, Laloo Yadav needs to be credited for introducing something that was in the files for so many decades!
-Roy


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1083 times:

Indians ARE used to littering.

Singaporeans were used to littering too.

But in 20 years, they got used not to littering. Civic sense has to come from the top.


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13967 posts, RR: 63
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1064 times:

Some ten years ago CocaCola and Pepsi introduced those 1,5 liter plastic bottless in Germany as well. The German government passed a law forcing the manufacturers to take the empty bottles back through a deposit. The alternative for the compasnies was to have their bottles taxed to pay for the removal of the rubbish. Now the bottles get reused by the manufacturers. The deposit is something around 15 Eurocents per bottle.

Jan


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

This sounds like California Redemption Value.


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

Thats it !

Brilliant.

If the Indian govt made a mandatory 5 paise redemption value to plastic bottles, believe me, there would be a cottage industry busy cleaning up all of India !!


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1009 times:

Haha...you are totally right Jaysit. I already see organized groups of people armed with pickups full of plastic, glass, and aluminum. I say someone with connections to the Indian govt. should introduce this. Imagine that...Anet making descisions for India Big grin.


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlinePhxairfan From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 811 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1008 times:

Well now they've taken care of cutting down on garbage from the trains. How bout lets work on not shiting on the tracks, ESPECIALLY at the station. Always funny to be waiting for your train and to look down and see a fat turd staring back at you. I didn't know that the rail system even used cups and plates. I rode from Delhi to Jahnsi and back an never saw a plate or cup. Also, isn't there going to be a huge influx of people riding the trains if they become free for senior citizens? A lot of the people riding seemed to be older, making up a good part of revenue I'm sure. How old is senior?

User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1006 times:

The last time I went on a train in India, I was small enough to fall through the hole...so I never dared using it. The last time I went there, it was all air travel. Jet Airways!  Big thumbs up


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13967 posts, RR: 63
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 984 times:

Actually, even trains in Europe just used a chute under the lavatory bowl up to a few years ago, with a sign not to use the toilet when the train is standing in a station in the lavatory. Only recently, with the introduction of the ICE in Germany, were aircraft type vacuum lavs introduced on trains. The problem with the old system on ICEs was the high speeds, if ther train was going through a tunnel (there are many of them!) the turd would be blown right back into your face. Once developed, the technology was used on other trains as well and AFAIK the older cars are being phsed out. I never linger under railway bridges if a train is passing.

Jan


User currently offlineIndianFlyboy From India, joined Sep 2003, 294 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 960 times:

Hell MD11Engineer , I thought we were the only one's with the holes in the loo.
And in Delhi we have a place called Pragati maidan , pretty close to New Delhi railway station, where there is a traffic stop below a railway overbridge. That is probably the only place in Delhi where people actually stop much before the stop line on the signal. I remember atleast 2 incidents , one of which was a beautiful merc being bombed besides another car. The poor occupants did not know what to do , the look on their faces said it all  Smile

Regards


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 3 hours ago) and read 941 times:

Turds are biodegradable; plastic isn't.

Plus, what would India be without people poopin' all along the railway tracks.

Switzerland, perhaps?


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 2 hours ago) and read 931 times:

Plus, what would India be without people poopin' all along the railway tracks.

Switzerland, perhaps?


Well, in Shimla we already have a small swiss...  Smile quite neat!






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