Continental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5476 posts, RR: 20 Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2365 times:
Wait, you're kidding me right? 8 minutes? The beginning is dumb, wait until they get to part where they show real statistics. Playing the whole game takes a long time, but along the way I'll admit it's a little childish, but when it gets to the stats. like how the poor get screwed when it comes to taxes and the rich get richer, then it makes you think. Tubbyboeing, why do you have such strong feelings for Bush when you live in Africa? Maybe if you lived here you'd have a different mindset.
Continental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5476 posts, RR: 20 Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2310 times:
I knew this would happen, I knew you guys would get all lazy and quit the game. The beginning, about 10 minutes, is really dumb, wait till' you get to the parts where they bring up statistics, and where the rich men are represented with pig heads. Oh man this game is hilarious, just give it a try, more than 10 minutes. Face it, it's not like you have anything better to do.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19813 posts, RR: 56 Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2253 times:
It's extremely childish, and I found it insulting occasionally (this coming from someone who is no fan of GWB), but I can't deny that it is EXTREMELY creative.
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
Continental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5476 posts, RR: 20 Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2163 times:
L.1011, please stop kidding yourself!! Clinton has done 1 thing!?!?! Please stop making us laugh! What about Bush I's supply-side economics, which was running about $290 billion deficit a year. Then during CLINTON's term, the US produced the longest sustained economic expansion ever! 18 million + new jobs, and at the end a +$236 billion surplus. George Jr. comes in and turns the $236 billion surplus into a $500 deficit, largest EVER. I can't believe people still actually want to vote for Bush!!!!
RT514 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2161 times:
Continental, let's take it easy on L.1011 now!
After all, he was just between 9 and 11 when Clinton was last in office. 9 and 11 is certainly old enough to have formed rational and independent views on marriage and the ideology of Liberalism isn't it?
As for the thread at hand... the game was amusing and creative.
Nwcoflyer From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 646 posts, RR: 15 Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2152 times:
Continental,
The economy is not in the gutter like CNN claims it is. After we were attacked on 9/11, after the markets suffered a corporate corruption scandal, and after wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the unemployment rate is falling, and the economy is still getting stronger!
-Weekly unemployment insurance claims have fallen to their lowest level since the year 2000.
-The national unemployment rate is now 5.6%, almost 1% less than it was at it's peak (the peak was 6.3%). The unemployment rate is below the average of the 70s, 80s, and 90s!
-Over the past year 44 of the 50 states have reported the unemployment rate falling.
In addition to that, consumer confidence is very high, new housing construction and homeownership are at record levels (yes, better than when Clinton was in office), inflation is low, and minority homeownership is up over 50%, the highest ever!
L.1011 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2209 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2153 times:
Bill Clinton did not start "the longest sustained economic expansion ever." President Ronald Wilson Reagan still holds that title. Secondly, Bill Clinton started a good economy, true, but he then allowed a binge, a bubble, and a burst. He also oversaw one of the greatest recessions of the 20th century, which started in March 2000, almost a year before Mr. Bush entered office. Mr. Bush has restored economic growth, the highest since Reagan. He has returned over 900,000 jobs that Clinton lost to the American people. And here's some FACTS for ya.
January 1994:
Civilian labor force 1994: 128,103,000
Employed: 119,389,000
Unemployed: 8,714,000
January 2004:
Civilian labor force: 146,863,000
Employed: 138,566,000
Unemployed: 8,297,000
During the Clinton “Great Economy” of 1996
Unemployment was at 5.6%
Average wage was $11.82/hr.
Inflation Average was 2.93%
During the Bush “Miserable Failure” Economy of 2004
Unemployment is at 5.6%
Average wage is $15.49/hr.
Inflation is 1.9%
The Democrats say that some 2.5 million or so jobs have disappeared under the Bush administration; they are both right and wrong. They are right in that the statistics showed about 138 million jobs in January 2001, but they are wrong not to tell you about the 2.5 million correction in the worker population figures, which were taken out in the first 6 months or so of the Bush administration.
Even if we ignore that little statistical "Oops,” we can see that in Jan-2001, Total employed was 137.8 million. In Jan-2004, total employment stands at 138.6 million, a gain of 0.8 million jobs. If we add back the 2.5 million error, there has been a net gain of roughly 3.3 million jobs during the Bush administration. - CFalk, an economist
The value of U.S. stock markets has increased $2 trillion since the beginning of the year.
Disposable personal income is up 5.8 percent at an annual rate in 2003
The U.S. homeownership rate was 68.4% in the third quarter – its highest level ever.
Continental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5476 posts, RR: 20 Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2143 times:
How about that 2.5 trillion that Bush promised not to touch as it was for S.S.??
I see that you're going into past posts and just pasting figures which I believe may be incorrect. I think your stats. are wrong.
I believe statisticly Clinton DID hold the longest sustained economic expansion ever, I'll have to look for the correct stats. from an accredited source, not another post.
Nwcoflyer From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 646 posts, RR: 15 Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2143 times:
L.1011- great info.
He has returned over 900,000 jobs that Clinton lost to the American people.
It is actually over 1.1 million now, April created over 288,000 jobs.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2143 times:
Yes, people, L.1011, who hasn't lived a quarter of a century, can tell you right here, that liberals haven't given anything to the U.S. Not a thing. And he would know, having lived through, and knowing so much about FDR, Truman, JFK, etc. Yes, Liberals have done nothing for American. Ask the expert, lil' L.1011, wuderkid.
The fact is, kid, plenty of liberals and plenty of conservatives have done plenty to advance the cause of this nation. If you REALLY believe it's all becuase of what Conservatives have done, I wonder who is telling you such bullshit. Your parents? They, like you, should recheck their history. If that's where you're getting it from, they don't impress me.
For anyone to say only one side of the spectrum has been the driving force, the only contributor, to the over 200 year history of the United States, doesn't understand what the United States, and it's history is about.
Continental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5476 posts, RR: 20 Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2140 times:
Clinton lost to the American people? He created tons of jobs, it's been recorded over Bush's term that he has lost tons of jobs!! If Bush has created any jobs, then he has fooled you, any jobs he creates are government jobs. Great way to promote the economy! Might as well give all the tax breaks to the rich again, remember that idea!?!? That worked out well..
QIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2111 times:
Those Liberals are some really bad people. They destroy the whole US and they destroy the friendship with the rest of the world. Shame on all you liberals!!
25 L.1011: You know Alpha I did say "liberals have not made any contribution to this nation since Kennedy" Typical liberal. Facts prove you wrong? Twist some wor
26 777236ER: So no liberal alive to day does any good for the US?
27 Alpha 1: You know Alpha I did say "liberals have not made any contribution to this nation since Kennedy" Liberals make contributions every day to this nation,
28 Ushermittwoch: Sadly this topic has been hijacked once again. Anybody else in here that played the whole game? It's really funny in parts. Sadly I couldn't finger Hi
29 L.1011: Typical ignorance from Alpha. My dad is moderate-to-left genius.
30 Continental: L.1011, so basically you're saying that you're getting all your info. from your dad!?!? Ushermittwoch, yeah you're not missing much with Hillary Duff.
31 Ushermittwoch: Well what happens? I am very curious. I tried about 15 times but it never worked. I had to laugh when Kenny Boy got the BIG prisoner. Sadly John Ashcr
32 L.1011: Gee Continental, you know there's something called Hooked On Phonics. I specifically pointed out that I'm the political opposite of my dad and you com
33 Continental: I read incorrectly, put me in prison!!! My question is, how the hell did you become such a Bush fan? What drew you in? I mean comeon, he did nothing t
34 Lehpron: Most 'anti' games will simply unconciously spread more 'anti' everywhere, I do not see how that would be great. You guessed it, I have not yet clicked
35 Continental: I'm not forcing you, but you are missing out. It's a hilarious, fun game filled with statistics that shoot Bush and his administration into the ground
36 JeffM: LOL.... yea.... and right just about right for you to understand.. STATISTICS? Is that what you call that junk? LOL... Too Funny...
37 L.1011: Really Continental, The Bureau of Labor Statistics is biased and incorrect? Huh?
38 Continental: Nowhere in this thread did you mention that L.1011.
39 L.1011: Then, even more so, attacking a source you don't even KNOW seems rather ill-advised no?
40 Boeing757/767: While Clinton did contribute a few things, it's what Bush contributed that makes me so disgusted with the man: a war the world did not want against a
41 Dl021: Continental.....Instead of taking the time and effort to create a game ( I am assuming you created the game, if not excuse me, I will give you credit
42 Singapore_Air: Wow! Great game. I'm learning so much. Christopher Reeve just died fighting the breast chaired by the FCC man but I'm still going. Kudos for finding t
43 MidnightMike: Well, the game was cute, but far from the truth, not even close. Would have had a good laugh, without all of the profanity, but a cute game nonethele
45 Globalexpress: You know whats funny, that people use liberal wrongly. LIBERAL IS NEW THINKING. Jesus Christ almighty, America WAS A LIBERAL PROPOSITION. Go against t
46 Dl021: I do agree that many use the terms liberal and conservative incorrectly, but the usage has overtaken the meanings. I am considered conservative byt ma
47 Lehpron: Continental this is what I mean. People fall for things pretty easy when they are emotional or frustrated or stressed. In other words, they have no lo
48 L.1011: Continental, If you want credibility, try listening to Dl021. At least some of the other liberals TRY to provide facts, as wrong as their ideology is.
49 Continental: I don't feel to make an argument against your petty rebuttals require facts. I can use facts, but there is no need in this situation. Stop trying to s
50 Lehpron: No offence, but it continues to surprise me how anyone on an interest dicussion forum (or even on TV) can figure out another's ideology based on their
51 L.1011: Wow Continental that was absolutely pathetic. You don't have any facts, so you claim you don't need any facts! LOL! It should tell you something when
52 Continental: If you want sources, then I guess I just have to shove them down your throat. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/01/10/politics/main262929.shtml Don'
53 JeffM: LOL John, Are you still stuck in the fairy tale "popular vote" thing? Come on.... Clinton IS wrong. Is that better for you?
54 Continental: So all the facts that Clinton said were all totally false? Get lost Jeff, accept the truth. You can't keep saying that everything is wrong.