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OJ Simpson Murders, A Decade Later  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

It's been ten years this month since Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman were murdered:






Primary suspect: the Juiceman himself.





And then there was the nearly year-long circus of a trial which ensued, after which OJ was acquitted on all counts...

...guess he's still looking for the "real killers", at their Miami golf-club haunts?

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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5911 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

Wasn't he appointed as the killer, or responsible for their murders, in the civil lawsuit that followed the criminal trial?

I remember reading that he wouldn't be able to pay any money to the family of the victims, since he had just transfered all of his assets to his son.

I also remember reading an interview with one of the lawyers that defended him, and he regretted that they had ever played the "race" card.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

Wasn't he appointed as the killer, or responsible for their murders, in the civil lawsuit that followed the criminal trial?

Yes, he was. And it was over quickly, too.



and he regretted that they had ever played the "race" card.

Bet OJ didnt  Yeah sure


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13046 posts, RR: 78
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1436 times:

An article here, quite recent, about this case and the aftermath, about 4 pages long;
http://observer.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,1221017,00.html


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7934 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1436 times:

I think OJ was innocent. People like him (celebs, movie stars etc) can't even dial a phone themselves - literally. You wouldn't believe how useless these people are. Ron Goldman was a judo / karate fanatic, OJ a late middle aged man. It's not as though Ron would have gone down without a fight. The fact that OJ didn't seem to be injured at all makes me suspicious.

For the prosecution:
The evening of the murders, OJ flew to Chicago (and there was some odd behaviour, limo driver waited for an hour outside OJ's house, saw someone go in the back, then OJ appears at the door, having been "asleep", etc) on the red eye (AA, fact fans) and the police called him at his hotel in the morning and told him Nicole was dead. Apparently there was much "oh no oh no" from OJ but he NEVER ASKED WHAT HAPPENED! It's normally the first question people ask, unless they already know of course.

There is evidence that ties OJ to the scene (loads of DNA, spots of blood in OJ's car, and the other weird stuff above), but I think it was OJ's son who dunnit, apparently the guy weighs a tonne and has anger management problems (been arrested a few times for assault). He is a chef at a restaurant where Nicole Brown Simpson (not his mother btw) was meant to go with a big group after a school play on the night of the murders. They didn't show up (went to the restaurant where Ron worked instead) and OJ's son apparently took this as a major snub, it had been planned for ages. Maybe he went round after work and did it, then called OJ who came to the scene (er, Dad, something bad has happened, you need to come over right now)? OJ is the obvious culprit, I don't think he's been honest about everything (and if true, his reaction on the phone to the LAPD to the news of his wife's death is VERY incriminating) but that doesn't automatically make an open-and-shut case. I don't count the previous domestic problems between OJ and Nicole btw, as Michael Moore said on the subject, "If there are thirteen crimes and a man is guilty of twelve of them, it doesn't mean he's automatically guilty of the thirteenth."



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User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5327 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1427 times:

Sorry, cedarjet, don't buy the conspiracy theory. Simpson's statements to the police just don't wash. Regarding your statement that "celebrities are useless" that doesn't mean they're immune from violent behavior.


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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

" Regarding your statement that "celebrities are useless" that doesn't mean they're immune from violent behavior."

I wish this was true.

Signed,
Rae Carruth




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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7737 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

If we have learned anything from the OJ trial, which we clearly haven't, is that if you have the money you can buy your freedom and in the process make a mockery of the judicial system. Even if OJ truly is innocent, he and his attorneys made a mockery of the system. But at the sametime Judge Lance Ito, the LA County District Attorney's office, and LAPD certainly played along.

There is no reason that the trial should have gone as long as it did and there is no reason that the circus environment should have been allowed to happen.



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User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

Two things are for sure:

1) Orenthal did it.

2) Orenthal should be sitting on death row right now.




America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offline5NEOO From Nigeria, joined Nov 2003, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

This statement by Dave Chappelle best describes how I feel about the case:

"My Blackness cannot permit me to find him guilty....."



Admit it, you could care less about the continent Africa!
User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Didn't OJ recently get busted by the Feds for stealing digital satellite TV?

User currently offlineZrb2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

What we have learned from high profile trials is that any jury nowadays can be convinced of "reasonable doubt" by a good defense team. Even if they had a video of OJ committing those murders, the defense would have convinced the idiot jurors that the tape was doctored up by racist cops. Really, I think the reasonable doubt thing has to be re-visited by the justice system since it can be manipulated so easily.

[Edited 2004-06-03 22:57:38]

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1368 times:

"OJ a late middle aged man."

???

He was a star football player. And he was still very fit.

Has it been ten years? I remember how shocked I was at the verdict. I really thought they would send him to the slammer.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16694 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1351 times:

I remember where I was during "the Chase", never forget the people along the freeways waving and the scene when he got to his house.

The verdict was shocking too, I remember I cut class that day because I sat in my car and listened to callers call into radio shows outraged all day. I thought it was a solid case, although his lawyers did introduce some doubt which I guess in California is grounds for an acquittal.



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1349 times:

Two things are for sure:

1) Orenthal did it.

2) Orenthal should be sitting on death row right now.

So are you campaigning to change the judicial system of which you have so little faith?

If you are so SURE OJ was guilty, how can you be so SURE people executed are guilty?


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1340 times:

sidebar:
anyone notice how much like Angie Harmon the above picture of Nicole is?


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3512 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

I was in 7th grade. everyone in West Middle School in 4th hour had their TV's on and watched the verdict. except mrs keltys art class....*mine* damnit. she let us listen to it on the radio though and we were all psyched because he was found innocent. For some reason all us kids were pulling for OJ. I kind of regretting it now.


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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11133 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1304 times:

One thing that always got me:

HE WAS AVOIDING THE COPS!

If someone is innocent, they have no reason to run. The police chased him all over L.A. He was guilty of something. When they read the verdict, I could not express my dissapointment: I was in school and about half of the students in the classroom were black.

GO CANUCKS!!



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User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1300 times:

The only thing I really remembered from this case was how much fun Jay Leno made out of it.  Laugh out loud
Man that was really hilarious what he did at that time. And He is still great today Big grin


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1292 times:

If someone is innocent, they have no reason to run. The police chased him all over L.A. He was guilty of something.

You have to be kidding.  Insane So, you're saying if someone runs then they're automatically guilty? Unbelievable.

If memory serves, there were quite a few elements of the OJ case where the police doctored evidence, were there not?

I've forgotten most of it, mainly because it was more fascinating to watch how America reacted than the individual case of someone I'd never heard of. But even so, I remember at the time thinking that whilst he was probably guilty, the case hadn't been proved, and therefore acquittal was the only decision to make.

The civil case has a lower standard of proof. But (and we've had this here too), it always makes me slightly uneasy to see the civil case used as a second chance when the protagonists don't get the verdict they like in the criminal one.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

Great. Not like there wasn't overkill on this topic 10 years ago when it happened. Then with the trial, and even up until now. So yeah, we definitely needed a "10 year anniversary" thread.  Insane

User currently offlineGlobalexpress From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2002, 251 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1283 times:

KROC has a point - he was aquitted after all. Murders happen daily around the world, who gives a shit about this one, that happened 10 years ago.

User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2566 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1274 times:

I am intrigued by Cederjet's post above. Did I miss something about O.J. having a grown son who may have committed the murders? I never heard about that at the time of the crime.


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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

If memory serves, there were quite a few elements of the OJ case where the police doctored evidence, were there not?

The biggest was Dr. Henry Lee's observation of how the blood on the socks were planted. Drop blood or any liquid on any flat sock.. and it will saturate to the socks 2nd layer... leaving similar blot as the 1st layer. Now... put a foot inside the sock ( as they police suggest OJ was wearing said socks) and any blood splattered as he stomped, walked or sloshed around in it.. the blood spatterings would not match identically when the socks were removed.. it would have dried too much to have done so.

OJ never came off as a bright bulb... so if it was true that he wore his Bruno Magli shoes and bloodied them in the process and took off (and they 'found' blood in the Bronco, wouldn't there have been blood on the brake and gas pedal of the Bronco? You can't drive without them... and OJ doesn't come off to me as the type who'd think to remove his shoes or clean out the Bronco.

But the worse offense by the cops was Det. Vanatter walking around a full 24 hours with OJ's blood sample in his pocket. That is an unbelievable oversight by a seasoned veteran!

Okay, actually just having Mark Fuhrman on the case was the biggest f*ckup.. esp. his testimony.... boy did that hit them between the eyes? I'd pay to see that again!


BN747



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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1259 times:

Oh, and incase you were looking for such memorabilia, Orenthal will be selling pictures of himself posing by the gravesite of Nicole. Perfect. If you want one I believe it will only take in the high 6 digits or low 7 digits.

25 Zrb2 : For those that think OJ was set up, basically that means the cops knew in advance, that on the night of the murders, OJ's whereabouts would be unaccou
26 BN747 : That's absurd. And a cop that used the "N" word ten years earlier had it in for OJ. That's also absurd. It is? Then why of all places 'In front of the
27 Post contains images Jcs17 : Okay, actually just having Mark Fuhrman on the case was the biggest f*ckup.. esp. his testimony.... boy did that hit them between the eyes? I'd pay to
28 BN747 : the fact that Fuhrman said a few racist jokes ten years ago should've not been allowed to be introduced as evidence. For example, say I make a female
29 MaverickM11 : Have there been any developments in finding the real killer(s)? I say that with a touch of sarcasm but I still am curious.
30 Tom in NO : I never thought OJ did in Nicole and Ron. And I didn't do in that limo driver, either. Sincerely, Jason Williams
31 CactusA319 : Have there been any developments in finding the real killer(s)? I say that with a touch of sarcasm but I still am curious. Yeah OJ has been feverishl
32 BN747 : Not doubt about it he was involved.. but to single him as committing it alone.. is crediting OJ way too much. That's like saying Bush has a chance in
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