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10 Reasons To Defeat Bush  
User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Posted (10 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 1401 times:

1. Bush is destroying workers rights and outsourcing jobs instead of protecting the right to organize and creating new jobs rebuilding schools, bridges, roads and hospitals

2. Bush is privatizing Medicare, Social Security and public education with phony reforms instead of enacting health care for all, protecting retirement funds and full funding for public education through college.

3. Bush is bankrupting the Federal Government with giant tax cuts for the very rich and super-funds to the military instead of securing the budget for human needs by taxing the rich and spending on human needs.

4. Bush is rolling back civil rights gains instead of enforcing and expanding affirmative action to end racism in all areas of life.

5. Bush is curtailing women's rights and choice by undermining Roe v. Wade instead of upholding the right to choice and ending the gender wage gap.

6. Bush is abusing immigrant workers in low-wage jobs instead of providing a clear path to citizenship and equal rights.

7. Bush is exploiting and ruining the environment by protecting corporate polluters instead of conserving our natural resources for the public good.

8. Bush's war in Iraq is a disaster for our security and economy. He is pushing for more preemptive wars and for first strike nuclear military policy instead of negotiations and cooperation utilizing the UN.

9. Bush is denying civil liberties and free speech in the name of fighting terrorism instead of repealing the USA Patriot Act and helping cities, towns and states fund firefighters and police.

10. Bush discriminates against Gays and Lesbians with a Constitutional Amendment instead of expanding civil rights and liberties for all.
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Okay, obviously I don't buy into such nonsense, but here is a question for everyone. However, I know many Democrats here do agree with some or all of the above.

So the question is, this is a party's platform. Who's is it?


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 1390 times:

LOL.... Just what I thought... Ten opinions from Left Field.  Insane

I only disagree with the first 10.


User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 1367 times:

Dude, seriously, do something else, it's getting to you and it's getting bad.


The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

My top reasons why he needs to go:

He chokes on pretzels
He lied about the war
All time high gas prices
He can't pronounce words
He can't speak correctly
He is way too arrogant and cocky



Never Trust Your Fuel Gauge
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17544 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

So tell us who it is?


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3383 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 1332 times:

I agree with 2,3,7,8,9, and 10.

1) He is not repsonsible for outsourcing jobs

2) Affirmative action is stupid because people should always hire the most qualified and productive workers

5) No clue

6) Refer to 5



Engineers Rule The World!!!!!
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 1326 times:

1. Agree. although a certain amount of jobs will always get "outsourced". There's not doubt he's killing workers rights and safety rules. NO doubt of it.

2. Agree 100%

3. I agree he's ruining the economy, but with huge deficits. In the middle of a major war, fighting it on two fronts, and to be giving out huges tax cuts that benefit mostly the wealthy, is economic insanity.

4. It's time to end affirmitave action. But he and the GOP are trying to push back Civil Rights 40 years. Of that, I have no doubt. If it weren't the case, the GOP would not be full of white southern men.

5. I don't think women's rights and abortion go hand in hand, to be honest. If I were a woman, I'd be more worried about economic rights, and I don't think Bush is doing anything to endanger that.

6. No opinion on thatone.

7. Any president who lets polluters, who were recently fined by Congress for polluting, write new laws on pollution standards, is an idiot. And that's what Bush is doing-letting those guilty of polluting write the regulations. What a joke. He's undoing 40 to 50 years of excellent envionrnmental work, in a short amount of time.

8. ABSOULTELY. Iraq has made us no safer. Iraq has alienated the U.S. from a goodly portion of the sane world (fuck those who don't ever like us, no matter what we do). He's throwing billions down the drain, that could have been used at home, or to fight the real terrorists. He's lost all the goodwill that we received from 9/11. His supposed "strength" (and GOP strength), of foreign policy, has been an unmiitigated disaster in the form of the war in Iraq. On this issue, should he be voted out of office.

9. To some degree, yes. The Pandora's Box has been cracked open. If the American people allow this box to open further, it could mean the end of the Bill of Rights somwhere down the road.

10. The GOP fear of bending over in the shower is becoming National law.


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5618 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 1286 times:

You forgot to add these...

11. He's singlehandedly destroyed American goodwill around the world..

12. He's divided America like nothing since Vietnam or the Civil War.

13. He's violating the Constitution by permitting the joining of Church and State: Faith Based Initiatives.

14. All Campaign funds he accepted from Enron ought to be returned.

15. He needs to be hauled infront of the 9/11 commission ALONE and his testimony placed 'On the record'.


BN747



"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson
User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1248 times:

Is that the Green Party platform?

To me the reasons are simpler: he lied about the case for going to war, he attacked a nation that posed no threat to the United States, and he did not finish the real war on terrorism in Afghanistan.



Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
User currently offlineB747forlife From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 392 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1234 times:

Someone please point out to me a credible source (such as Congress or an exectutive branch employee or something like that) stating that President Bush knowingly lied about going to war. Please. I want to see the proof of the thing I've heard so many accuse the president of, and of which I think is a very serious thing to accuse anyone of.

-Nick


User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1228 times:

It doesn't matter if he lied or one of his agency heads lied. No weapons were found. End of story. (And I don't count a few meansly little shells).


Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

Are you convincing your self or trying to convince others?? Thats the great thing about the USA... dont like him dont vote for him. I personally feel you are wrong on 9 out of 10 reasons so I know who I am voting for. VOTE !


You dig the hole .. I fill the hole . 100% employment !
User currently offlineAa777flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1181 times:

Well like it or not.....Bush WILL be re elected in Nov. He is unstoppable......

Kerry lacks expierience and muster to beat Bush......

BTW....I dont like Bush....but I think Kerry will be worse.....

I say elect..Jenna Jamison!  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17544 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1177 times:

"he lied about the case for going to war"

If someone could actually prove this I'd actually start listening to all of you. But you can't. Too bad. Bush in 04.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1173 times:

I think you are all over looking the most inportant reason why he should go. "He chokes on pretzels". Well done LyingBronco. I think that is the most ingnorant thing I have seen posted in quite some time. You should be proud.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1168 times:

He should go for merely trying to eat the bloody things. They're disgusting.

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17544 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1153 times:

"I think that is the most ingnorant thing I have seen posted in quite some time. You should be proud."

I think we have another winner:

"It's time to end affirmitave action. But he and the GOP are trying to push back Civil Rights 40 years. Of that, I have no doubt. If it weren't the case, the GOP would not be full of white southern men."

Would that be why Bush has more minorities in his cabinet than anyone ever?



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineQb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1140 times:

You all felt into B757300's little childish trap. He took this list from the American Communist Party.

So, if you agree with any of those items, in B757300's twisted mind, you're guilty by association of being a communist.

Brother...

Hey B757300, why don't you go back reading your favorite British tabloids?



Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
User currently offlineCsavel From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1365 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1104 times:

A lot of B757300's reasons aren't true, a lot are just as much the fault as the democrats (Kerry voted for the so-called Patriot Act) Example - Bush couldn't stop outsourcing even if he wanted to, the genie is long ago out of that bottle.

My reasons are similar to what Boeing757/767 said.

He said Iraq had WMDs and was an imminent threat to the US, his Veep said over and over again that Mohammed Atta met in Prague with an Iraqi diplomat. Both not true. He had no plan for after the war, he relied on the neocon wingnuts and yahoos, who have this naive grand master plan for the Middle East that is so patronizing and smacks of something out of 19th century London or Paris. Gotta break out my Rudyard Kipling, and who may have unwittingly given Iran who the hell knows what through a confidence con man wanted in Jordan for bank fraud, He did this because operatives in the CIA and State didn't tell him what he wanted to hear (OK Tenet gets a shitload of blame here) He failed to finish what he started in Afghanistan (a legitimate war, they did harbor the people who attacked us) and that country may drift into chaos. He failed to finish it because of Iraq. In the corporate world, the board of directors would or should fire the CEO for that. It's a grand fuck up - whether or not you feel it was legitimate going to war in Iraq.

The rest of the world hates us, and while a country should base its foreign policy on its own interests, not those of other nations, even Machiavelli said its smart to build alliances.

He is busting the budget, spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave, and even conservatives are saying "whoa."
And frankly, while I respect anybody's right to his or her faith, I'm getting sick and tired of getting preached to all the time by him. I don't need a sanctimonious lesson in God and morality every time he makes a speech.



I may be ugly. I may be an American. But don't call me an ugly American.
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1097 times:

To me the reasons are simpler: he lied about the case for going to war

On that, I beg to differ. He did not lie about the case for war. The intel WAS wrong. He bought it, the Democrats bought it, Powell bought it etc. But what make me mad at him is, that, when we finally figured out the intel was a lie that he didn't go before the world and say "The intel was not accurate, and for that I am deeply sorry. We cannot, in good conscience, withdraw from Iraq, and we need to make the best of the situation that we find ourselves in." I still wouldn't have agreed with the war, but I would have gained a lot of respect for him for doing that. But instead, he makes up a new excuse each week, it seems, as to why we went to war, and the WMD's which the UN passed a US-sponsored resolution on, and which Powell made such a big presentation about, were forgotten by the Administration.

He didn't lie about the original intel, but he wasn't man enough and big enough to admit the mistake.

Well like it or not.....Bush WILL be re elected in Nov. He is unstoppable......

Incumbent presidents with negatives in the polls approaching 50% aren't exactly "unstoppable", and rarely win re-election.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1071 times:

aa777flyer:
Bush WILL be re elected in Nov. He is unstoppable......


...and you'll continue to be "LAAID off" as you mentioned in your profile.
What happened? Outsourced?



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1067 times:

...and you'll continue to be "LAAID off" as you mentioned in your profile.
What happened? Outsourced?


Soundsmore like he's in need of Enzyte.


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1071 times:

My reasons why I'm not happy with Bush-

1. He's not a fiscal conservative in any way, shape or form
2. He doesn't work with Congress well.
3. Conquering Iraq has not made us any safer
4. The TSA. 'Nuff said.
5. His immigration proposal was just wrong
6. He has not supported his federal judge candidates like he should've (especially Estrada)
7. His administration flat out lied about the true cost of the new Medicare drug entitlement


He's been an okay president, not great (like Reagan Big grin ), but the simple fact is that Kerry is worse.

I want Thomas Sowell or Ron Paul to be my president.


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