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Ouch, Kerry Gives A Vietnam Vet The Bird  
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1290 times:

Although he did antagonize the senator. But flipping someone off in front of schoolchildren? Does Kerry have no class?

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/

Ted Sampley, a former Green Beret who served two full tours in Vietnam, spotted Kerry and his Secret Service detail at about 9:00 a.m. Monday morning at the Wall. Sampley walked up to Kerry, extended his hand and said, “Senator, I am Ted Sampley, the head of Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, and I am here to escort you away from the Wall because you do not belong here.”

At that point a Secret Service officer told Sampley to back away from Kerry. Sampley moved about 6 feet away and opened his jacket to reveal a HANOI JOHN T-shirt.

Kerry then began talking to a group of schoolchildren. Sampley then showed the T-shirt to the children and said, “Kerry does not belong at the Wall because he betrayed the brave soldiers who fought in Vietnam.”

Just then Kerry - in front of the school children, other visitors and Secret Service agents - brazenly ‘flashed the bird’ at Sampley and then yelled out to everyone, “Sampley is a felon!”



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User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1274 times:

This story has been circulating the web for a few days with no proof whatsoever. School groups don't visit memorials on holidays... especially 8 year olds.

User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5517 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1272 times:

Littlegreenfootballs.com??  Yeah sure

Don't think everyone in Vietnam was totally innocent. At least Kerry did his duty unlike a certain SOMEONE....


User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1271 times:

Sounds reasonable to me... The guy denounced his patriotism and his roll in the war which he served no more and no less honorably than Mr. Sampley.

If I were being denounced for whatever reason, I'd give the man the bird as well...

School children will find out if they still haven't - you can't stop them from learning bad words and bad situations that happen, so don't even pull the censorship lever.



I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2734 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1270 times:

At least we know this story WON'T involve George Bush.

This guy was lucky just to get the finger, I'd have kicked the old prick in the nuts.

That place is public property, who is he to decide who goes there and who doesn't ?



" Help, help ... I'm being oppressed ... "
User currently offlineDrgreen757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1268 times:

It was on the internet....of course it's true.


Save the grey ghosts.
User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1261 times:

When this is reported by a reliable news source - with photos - I'll believe it.


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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

When this is reported by a reliable news source - with photos - I'll believe it.

You know, it's funny. Why do I get the sense that you and other hardcore liberals on here would have no trouble believing a story like this if it was Bush and not Kerry? Without even looking at the source you would bash him to no extent. Funny how you guys show your double standard so well.


As for the story, if it is true, Kerry should not have done that. He should've handled the situation like a mature man, not flip him off, especially in front of kids.



-NWA742


User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4503 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1249 times:

I seriously doubt this is true:

“Sampley is a felon!”


Oh come on! You really expect me to believe that John Kerry said that? That's like something a kid would say. I don't believe it for a minute.


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

LMAO... something bashing Kerry and you can't even find it on Foxnews. Hmm...

User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1230 times:

Perhaps Fox isn't as biased as you enjoy accusing it of being, WellHung?

CNN, naturally wouldn't mention such an incidient, but newsmax.com has no such scruples.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/5/31/225546.shtml


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1221 times:

I mentioned it another thread a couple of days ago.

Liberals hate Newsmax, but often they will report where Tom and Dan dare not tread.

It is also noted that Mr. Stampley is the person behind the Web-site Http://www.vietnamveteransagainstkerry.com. To me that fact makes the story more likely, rather then being just a unknown vet with that shirt on. Stampley has become a major thorn in Kerry's side.




OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1218 times:

Even has a hardcore liberal, i would not believe the story even if Bush's name was where Kerry's is. Bush would probably just say

"ummm well i respect your opinion and umm i ughh you can think whatever you want to thin kbut the american people will show what they think in umm novembler (intentionally spelled in correctly)"

The sitting president would not be caught flipping the bird unless it was in jest.



Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1220 times:

"At least Kerry did his duty unlike a certain SOMEONE....

Does that mean Mr. John Muzic will be "joining up" to do HIS DUTY? Or will there be some witty remark as to why he won't?

Tell us John, are you going to?


-Jeff


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1216 times:

If there was any possibility that this was true, Hannity would be sucking that guy's cock so fast for the story - and you know it.

So since Fox isn't biased for not reporting this, you're saying that any outlet that reports this is biased? Well done.

I think this is going to turn into one of those where the accusations are repeated until other news sources are forced to report the accusations...


User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

LOL* At MD-90

Yeah!! THose guys at Newsmax are really great. They look really reliable. Just look at their homepage. I't looks like the work of some school kid..

But of course you believe it. They are bashing Kerry  Insane


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1206 times:

QIguy24, I don't know where you get THAT idea.

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1195 times:

But of course you believe it. They are bashing Kerry

Like you're in a position to say something like that olguy. You'd believe ANYTHING that would bash Bush.

I know you're gonna try to snap back and call me a hardcore conservative who'd believe anything bashing Kerry, but I certainly question the validity of this incident.



-NWA742


User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

Listen NWA742,

No I don't believe everything the press writes about Bush. I can see what that man does to this world. And that is not good.
Of course you will now say that he liberated the Iraqis. And I will say yes of course he did. Look how many Iraqis that are being blown up down in Iraq. I wouldn't exactly call that liberating people. These poor people live in fear all the damn time.

I don't want Bush for President, I don't want Kerry for president either. But If I could choose between these 2 guys I definitly choose Kerry.
I wan't McCain as president but that will never happen unfortunatly.

And I find it very funny as well that when there is something bad about Kerry you conservatives blow it up big time here. But when there is something about Bush you defend that guy. It goes both ways...

Edit: And why aren't I in the position to say something like that? Don't you think we follow the US politics outside the US or what? It affects us as much as it affects you every time you choose a new president. So cut the crap will you....

[Edited 2004-06-04 07:34:47]

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1167 times:

No I don't believe everything the press writes about Bush. I can see what that man does to this world. And that is not good.

Well, that's only your opinon. A lot of people agree with you, and a lot don't agree with you.

Look how many Iraqis that are being blown up down in Iraq. I wouldn't exactly call that liberating people.

And how is that Bush's fault, rather than the small groups of terrorists/Saddam loyalists? We suceeded very well in defeating Saddam's armies, but all the little groups of terrorists has given us a challenge that nobody couldv'e expected nor predicted.

These poor people live in fear all the damn time.

Yeah, I'm sure they were much more fearless under Saddam.

I don't want Bush for President, I don't want Kerry for president either. But If I could choose between these 2 guys I definitly choose Kerry.

Good for you. I think that's a mistake that many people are going to make. As a conservative, I admit that Bush has made many mistakes. But, MARK MY WORDS: if Kerry is elected, he will NOT be able to make things any better. The guy is clueless, he doesn't stick to his beliefs, he changes his "views" in whatever respect to get more votes. Screw him.

And I find it very funny as well that when there is something bad about Kerry you conservatives blow it up big time here.

I'm a conservative and you don't see me doing that, now do you? I don't see anyone else blowing up over it either. Besides, the ratio of Kerry/Clinton bashing from conservatives to Bush bashing from liberals is about 1:30 on airliners.net, so don't even go there.



-NWA742


User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1158 times:

And how is that Bush's fault, rather than the small groups of terrorists/Saddam loyalists? We suceeded very well in defeating Saddam's armies, but all the little groups of terrorists has given us a challenge that nobody couldv'e expected nor predicted.

Yes I agree they suceeded to defend SOME of Saddams military. BUT:
They should have a plane for after they removed Saddam. But i't sure looks like they didn't. Things are ony getting worse down there.

Yeah, I'm sure they were much more fearless under Saddam

I didn't say they were. But Bush keeps telling the whole world that the Iraqis are happy people now. That is my problem with this.

if Kerry is elected, he will NOT be able to make things any better. The guy is clueless, he doesn't stick to his beliefs, he changes his "views" in whatever respect to get more votes. Screw him.

And I find it very funny as well that when there is something bad about Kerry you conservatives blow it up big time here.

Ok I'm sorry that I put you as one of those conservatives. You are right. I haven't seen you bash like some of the other conservatives in here.
But there are both liberals and conservatives in here who just bash for the fun of it.

I don't know that and neither do you. We haven't even seen him in the white house yet. So we don't know what that Jerry can do to help the USA and the rest of the world. And hopefully he listens to the rest of the world. So far Bush hasn't done that yet. And it has been 4 years.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1150 times:

Yes I agree they suceeded to defend SOME of Saddams military.

No, it was pretty much all of his military.

But Bush keeps telling the whole world that the Iraqis are happy people now. That is my problem with this.

Actually, Bush has been saying that they have been liberated from Saddam's evil regime, and that is true. I don't recall him saying anything about making them happier, but now they don't have to live under him.

Ok I'm sorry that I put you as one of those conservatives. You are right. I haven't seen you bash like some of the other conservatives in here.

Apologies accepted.

But there are both liberals and conservatives in here who just bash for the fun of it.

Oh of course there are. It goes on every single day in the Non-Av forum. Doesn't it just piss you off, regardless of what side you're on? It does me, I hate it when a bunch of hard lefties feel they have to make it their life's goal to bash Bush, and the same goes for some on the right. It really makes this Non-Av board look ridiculous.

I don't know that and neither do you.

Nobody can be sure, but I would bet you anything that I'm right. Looking at that guys history........he's not gonna do anything good.

And hopefully he listens to the rest of the world.

In OUR OWN country's politics and government, why do we always have to be politically correct with the rest of the world? Does the rest of the world feel the need to ask us permission for shit that they do? It goes both ways. I like Bush's plan of not letting our political self interest keep us from doing what we know to be morally right. I support that 100%.



-NWA742


User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

In OUR OWN country's politics and government, why do we always have to be politically correct with the rest of the world? Does the rest of the world feel the need to ask us permission for shit that they do? It goes both ways. I like Bush's plan of not letting our political self interest keep us from doing what we know to be morally right. I support that 100%.

I didn't mean your domestic politics. I mean international politics like going in to war and so on.

Nobody can be sure, but I would bet you anything that I'm right. Looking at that guys history........he's not gonna do anything good.

Hmmmm.... Bush' history isn't exactly the best either. I think Kerry has a small advantage here  Big grin

Actually, Bush has been saying that they have been liberated from Saddam's evil regime, and that is true. I don't recall him saying anything about making them happier, but now they don't have to live under him.

He has said that a several times when he has been interviewed. But I can't but a link to that because I cant find any of his speeches.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

I mean international politics like going in to war and so on.

Yeah I am as well.

Hmmmm.... Bush' history isn't exactly the best either. I think Kerry has a small advantage here

I really don't see how that is, could you elaborate?

He has said that a several times when he has been interviewed. But I can't but a link to that because I cant find any of his speeches.

Really? I never knew he said that the Iraqi people were happier, just liberated. Well, I think they should be happier not to live under a satanic weasel like Saddam in the first place  Smile




-NWA742


User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1129 times:

Right, and you expect me to take this source seriously? I say try again.


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25 BN747 : Kerry should have cracked him across the jaw before giving him the bird! BN747
26 Post contains images QIguy24 : I really don't see how that is, could you elaborate? Wasn't there something about getting arrested for drug crimes and being an alcoholic? And about t
27 L-188 : Now that I would have liked to see. Probably would have been somthing simular to that Richard Simmons airport assault.
28 MD-90 : I personally don't read newsmax.com. But y'all asked who broke the story, so I looked, and apparently they did.
29 Post contains links MD-90 : Looks like the "Sampley is a felon!" line was blogger added untruth. Newsmax has a follow-up story here http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/6/2/16
30 Post contains images QIguy24 : MD-90, Still a lot of words and still no picture....... When is that picture coming? Personally I'm looking forward to see that picture..[Edited 2004-
31 MidnightMike : Oh no! John Kerry would never give the finger to a Vietnam Vet, his "Band of Brothers", afterall, John Kerry is a war hero.
32 Srbmod : Yeah!! THose guys at Newsmax are really great. They look really reliable. Just look at their homepage. I't looks like the work of some school kid.. Th
33 MD-90 : QIguy24, don't hold your breath. If one of Kerry's supporters (the people who were around him at the time) took a picture, do you think they'd release
34 Continental : Well, I was planning to go to USAFA. Other than that, even if I wasn't going to go there, I can say that. Just because Bush was a big pussy about the
35 Diamond : " ... You know, it's funny. Why do I get the sense that you and other hardcore liberals on here would have no trouble believing a story like this if i
36 MD-90 : But to have to resort to using someone's online diary is just plain WEAK. Well, let's see, there's that liberal bias thing at Reuters, CNN, CBS, and t
37 Diamond : Thanks, dude. You just proved my point.
38 JeffM : "Well, I was planning to go to USAFA." What is your status? Did they accept you? Planning to attend and actually attending any of the academies are tw
39 Post contains images NWA742 : First of all, if it makes you feel good to call me a 'hard core liberal', go right ahead. Although I wouldn't describe myself as such, I don't mind th
40 Post contains images J.mo : Unfortunatly, Fat Limbaugh was on the radio at work and of course he was talking about it. He is a pretty fair guy with no agenda that I know of, so w
41 Post contains images WellHung : I FOUND IT!!! PROOF!!! After I was done beating off to his photo gallery, I found this pic on Hannity's website. Clear proof that John F'in Kerry hate
42 Continental : You're right, I haven't been accepted yet, it's too early. I will get accepted, because I'll pass that physical aptitude test above average, as I have
43 Post contains links Csavel : I'll tell you some of the funniest thing about Newsmax is their hysterical anti-Hillary screeds (I'm no fan of her, but the 'Hillary, she wolf of the
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