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George Soros  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 828 times:

For those that don't know,
Soros is the neo-commie multibillionaire assclown that's helping Kerry circumvent soft-money regulations by using "MoveOn" et al as a backdoor.



Your thoughts on him?




I'd call him the ultimate example of hipocrisy: fleeing communism, becoming rich because of it, only to get back out and urge communist practices.

[Edited 2004-06-05 00:21:01]

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User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 815 times:

I'd call him the ultimate example of hipocrasy: fleeing communism, becoming rich because of it, only to get back out and urge communist practices.

i completely agree with you. in my mind he is on par with al gore.

a bunch of hydrogen fueled bloviations spew forthwith lacking anything of note.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 808 times:

neo-commie multibillionaire

Another oxymoron like compassionate conservative?


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8763 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 808 times:

He's a fine example of why I find "Financial Folks" highly suspect. They will do anything to maximise profit, be it selling their own mother or bakrupting entire regions (Asian economic crisis comes to mind).

About that Kerry part: Soros probably estimated that Kerry's promises are better for his wallet than Bush's actions, so he's out supporting him. Nothing to blame Kerry for.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 807 times:

.."Nothing to blame Kerry for"

No, never do that! Just rewrite the rules, then get your judges lined up for afterwards...


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8763 posts, RR: 42
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 804 times:

Yep, just like the Florida recount, right?


Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 802 times:

He's one of the parishioners in the "Church of Hillary".  Big grin


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 798 times:

Another oxymoron like compassionate conservative?

My point exactly




Soros probably estimated that Kerry's promises are better for his wallet than Bush's actions

To be honest, I don't think Soros really gives a damn about Kerry... or Bush for that matter.

Though, if I told some of you nuts here what I'd really say he's after, you'd whine forever about "it always being about the Clintons with your type, isn't it?"  Big grin


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8763 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 792 times:

I didn't mean to say I think Soros gives any kind of a shadow of a damn about anyone but himself, but if he thinks Kerry's plans are better for his profit than Bush's actions, who will he support?  Big grin


Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 786 times:

but if he thinks Kerry's plans are better for his profit than Bush's actions

...ah yes, I'm willing to wager that he's the biggest supporter of "tax the Rich even further--make 'em bleed" and "we're going to violate capitalism to stop outsourcing, ya #$%@damn Benedict Arnold" that there is  Yeah sure


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8763 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 781 times:

Errrr... I dare to say that George Soros of all people knows and goes a way to sneak around everything that might resemble a tax - that's why I don't like people like him one bit. They use and exploit everything their countries have to offer but scream bloody murder when they're going to be taxed for it. Great deal of patriotism, eh?


Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2734 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 770 times:

If you arse-clowns (nothing personal concorde) ever looked beyond your own backyard or media sources you would know how much money Mr. Soros gives to the promotion of democracy and free speech in places where there is little or none.

He is personally unwelcome in such bastions of freedom such as Belorussia, Armenia, Turkmenistan and Moldova to name just 4 so he must be doing something right.

Your criticism of his tax evasion is laughable, it's called business. Does he break the law or is he just better at it than you ?



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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 767 times:

It's always funny when Republicans take umbrage with someone rich backing Democrats. Somehow, I find that extremely hypocritical, and pretty damned funny.  Smile

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 761 times:

"..Yep, just like the Florida recount, right?"

Exactly like Gore's Florida recount. Glad to see somebody gets it.  Big grin

I agree alpha, it is funny when you think about a rich Democrat. Why do they keep all that money when there are soooo many poor needy people that deserve it more then them... Why is that?


User currently offlineB2707SST From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 1369 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 766 times:

you would know how much money Mr. Soros gives to the promotion of democracy and free speech

Those contributions are commendable, but remember that Soros has made his billions through a series of ethically questionable ventures, including speculative attacks on the currencies of Sweden and Thailand. The latter episode led to a cascading series of currency scares and eventually to the Asian financial crises in 1997-98, which was an economic catastrophe throughout the Pacific rim.

Certainly there were underlying instabilities that would have emerged sooner or later, but Soros made the process much more volatile and damaging than it probably would have been otherwise.

For Soros to lecture Bush on ethical practices and question the morality of "big business" is amusing indeed.

--B2707SST



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User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 759 times:

Hipocrisy? No, I don't think so. Communist? less. The most hipocrital here are this who call themselves "compassionate conservative".From who are they "compassionate"?

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 756 times:

The most hipocrital here are this who call themselves "compassionate conservative".From who are they "compassionate"?

Such conservatives are compassionate only for big business, if you look at the corporate welfare they like to dole out; if you look at the fact they want to let polluters write pollution laws; that's where their compassion lies. Not with human beings, but with big business. Bush's VP is a Poster Child for this kind of "Compassionate Conservatism".


User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 717 times:

I think this whole thread is weak.

What about Bush's "Ranger" fundraisers, etc.?

Who cares about Soros? He could throw $500.0 million at Kerry - but if he doesn't get the electoral votes it won't matter.




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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 708 times:

George Soros stripped millions of innocent pensioners and other small investors of their savings in his quest for wealth. He committed nothing less than fraud - albeit a kind of fraud that was, strictly speaking, legal, simply because the law never expected someone to actually be able to do what he did. He manipulated the market, and pocketed other people's money.

If he were serious about redeeming himself, he would give back or give away ALL of the money he made off of that scam.

Soros is scum of the Earth. I don't care what party he belongs to. Soros is no different morally than Al Capone.

Charles


User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 683 times:

Don't blame Soros Cfalk. Pensioners and small investors are often oblivious to the risk of the markets as they stand, and therefore they are responsible for their own savings.

What Soros has done, except maybe in regards to French insider trading charges, is totally legal. Just because the markets didn't expect anyone to be able to do what he has done, is no defence of the markets.

And it proves Soros' point that the markets are able to be manipulated. His 1992 $10 billion bet against the British pound was just one example of how manipulation can screw with the markets.

As to Soros being a 'neo-communist' -- if anything he is a socialist, and believes in democratic socialism. He has made inroads into countries such as those mentioned above by PacificJourney via the Central Eurasia Project -- it is well known that countries such as Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, etc wouldn't even have internet access if it wasn't for Soros and his investments in infrastructure. Not to mention the amount of money he spends on promoting and providing educational facilities to thousands of people in those countries.



User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 673 times:

Soros is a dichotomy to me. If you read some of his books, you come away with a completely different impression of what he believes than if you listen to him speak.

While I don't like his politics, he's obviously done something right.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 667 times:

Only if you consider it "right" if someone robs you blind, then says "sorry" but refuses to give you back what he stole.

The man is a fraudster.

Charles


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 655 times:

If it wasn't for Soros, there wouldn't be the JetBlue love fests over in the Civil Aviation and Aviation Polls & Preferences Forums.  Love  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 633 times:

Somewhere in the deep dark recesses of my mind, and believe me, it doesn't take long to get back there, I seem to recall that Soros, at some point in time, owned parts of either the Seattle Mariners baseball team or Air California. Anyone confirm either of this (I'm too lazy to do the search)?

And, no, I'm not an ardent admirer of George Soros.

Tom at MSY

edit: Owns or did own 23% of JetBlue, and 14.8% of China's Hainan Air.

[Edited 2004-06-06 02:46:33]


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User currently offlineDl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 611 times:

So, what some Russophile is saying is that if the crime has not yet been thought of so as to outlaw it, it is ok? Right? Regardless if it is immoral, and downright bad for the rest of the world. Soros as much as declared war on these countries by attacking their currencies, and in turn their economic stability. That is like computer hackers who destroy hard drives in hospitals saying that they are doing a public service. This guy is a brilliant whackjob who is trying to manipulate the US in a way that generally dems get angry about, but I guess that if he is doing it for them then it is ok...

Hey, wait, what is the definition of hypocrisy?



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25 Post contains images Russophile : Hey, wait, what is the definition of hypocrisy? When a capitalist lamblasts a socialist for screwing people over using the capitalist system they ador
26 Dl021 : Being a capitalist does not negate the responsibility one bears for ones actions. Ethics plays a part, and inspite of what many on these threads seem
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