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Which Countries Produce The Best Wine?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7141 times:

Wine, not whin....... LOL!  Smile

I would say FRANCE for TOP ones like Chateau Lafite, Chateau Latour, Petrus etc. Very expensive though.

For ordinary/good wines, I like ITALIAN, AMERICAN and SOUTH AFRICAN red wine. Australian is not bad too. Also New Zealand. You?

I like Carbernet Sauvignon and Merlot. Also Shiraz and Pinor Nior.

Marchese Antinori 1997 is REALLY NICE! Also Napa Valley Robert Mondavi 1998.

Actually wines sold in HK are a lot more expensive compare to other countries due to the fact that our wines are imported and we have to pay heavy tax.

[Edited 2004-06-10 12:05:47]

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User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7125 times:

Red: France
White: South Africa, California.


User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7125 times:
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For a perfect Cabernet or Merlot I definitelly would stick to Chile. Try a good Casillero del Diablo or a Rothschild.

I'm not a fan of white wine so no comment on me from that.

Mario
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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7121 times:

White: New Zealand, Germany.
Red: France, Italy, USA, Spain

Quite surprised that Canadian red wines are very nice too.


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7121 times:

My favorites are all from South Africa... a nice little Sauvignon Blanc (esp. Spier, Du Toitskloof or Havana Hill), or (almost any) Pinotage... wonderful - from my point of view, nothing else comes close.

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7111 times:

Here are my favorite wine:

Redwine: Australian. Here I absolutly adore Jacobs Creek.  Big thumbs up

Whitewine: German. Piesporter Michelsberg.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7113 times:

Hmm. No-one has mentioned Spain?

Their Riojas are absolutely fabulous.



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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24911 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7108 times:

Agree with Banco, Spanish wine is top notch. France, Portugal and Australia all produce nice wines which are rather quaffable  Big grin
Hell, I'll drink anything thats got alcohol in  Big grin



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User currently offlineAms From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7103 times:

I like the Chilean wines a lot!. Also some Swiss wines are quite nice



User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7088 times:

"Their Riojas are absolutely fabulous."

absolutely. the best red wine in the world is the rioja made in euskal herria!



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7078 times:

Chilean wine is nice too

User currently offlineMatt777 From Cayman Islands, joined Oct 2001, 503 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7065 times:

Italy, France, Argentina.

User currently offlineQantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5850 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7058 times:

oh that is Australia by far.

IWSC gold award to winemaker of the year for 2003, Peter Lenham of Peter Lenham wines in Australia.

some of the best and most affordable wines in the world are Australian.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7052 times:

Top top wines have to be FRENCH.

But overall Australian wines are very affordable and very nice.

Penfolds 389 1998 is VERY NICE. Also Cyril Henschke and St Hugo.


User currently offlineKlmblue From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 267 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7043 times:

no has mentioned my adopted country of... Switzerland! there wines are awesome, my host father is a vinter, getting to tast all his wines and i have to say they are the best!

User currently offlineAms From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7039 times:

KLMblue,


I mentioned the Swiss wines!! Big thumbs up


Regards,
AMS


User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7036 times:

United,

As you can see, the definition of "best" is not universal.

One should think that everybody should agree on what is the best.

Swiss wine ?? Well, ...



If you follow the experts judgment and if I remember well, the winner is ...


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USA ! (Californian red wine ... gasp)

But France is working to regain the 1st place.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7028 times:

France is still the biggest wine producer right?



User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1871 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7024 times:

Apart from French wines, (my favorites being from Jura), I have to admit I have been very surprised by the high quality of some Swiss wines. I didn't even know Switzerland was producing RED wine (whith, I know). And the red wine I tried was superb. (first time, it was in First, on a Swissair flight, then later in restaurants in Basel).
In Israel, the Rotschild red wine is very nice (but so expensive!!!)
In the past, Croatia produced good red wines. Quality disappeared in the 90s (war). I hope they will be able to produce quality wines again.
for PHX-LJU: Slovenia has some interesting wines too (I have seen last month that Jeruzalem wines are on the wine list of one of the best French restaurants)
This is just to show you that there is not 1 country producing the best wines, but several countries produce great wines.
Also remember that the most important is how you marry the wine (a Chateau - Yquem served with a steak is what I call a crime)
Teva



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User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7014 times:

Banco / GKirk / Zak.... Agreed.

The Faustino range is excellent.

Good Italians too.

Montepulciano de Abruzzo is usually great value.

A good Barolo is a delight.



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User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7004 times:

I know nothing about wine. But coincidentally, the couple of times I've really liked it (and asked), it was from Australia.

As the saying goes:

Great people talk about ideas;
Most people talk about things;
Small people talk about wine!
 Smile


User currently offlineQb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6993 times:

I totally, fundamentally, categorically reject the notion of "best wine". That doesn't exist.

It's like asking what's the best car, between, say, a Porsche 911 or a Toyota Camry. Both are goods, but they obviously don't target the same market.

The same is true of wine. Even though you say Château Pétrus is the best all-around wine, if you're having salmon for dinner, your Pétrus won't fit at all.

The world of wine is so vast, the real pleasure of a truly wine amateur is to discover new wines, all the time. For me, there's no greater pleasure in my love for wine than to discover that little 10$ bottle that was a perfect fit with my pasta salad.

The great wines are so predictable, it's almost boring. I have a 1989 Sociando-Mallet in my cellar. I'm 100% sure this wine will be excellent when I taste it. Same with my Yqem; can't be disappointed with that one.

The more I know about wine, the more I appreciated the very simple, very valuable 10$-20$ bottles.

As for the countries/regions to watch these days (if you want my opinion), keep an eye on Argentina, Uruguay and Ontario! Yes, Ontario, in Canada - I honestly believe their Cabernet Franc will be something to drink as I think this cep is a perfect match for Ontario's climate and soil (very similar to the Loire Valley).



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User currently offlineLan_Fanatic From Chile, joined Sep 2001, 1071 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6965 times:

I haven't tried many kinds of wines, but of all of them, the best I've ever tried is chilean Carmenère. Esp Viña Calina's Carmenère. Delicious.

User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4300 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6965 times:

Wow, when Argentina's wine industry is compared to that of Uruguay and Ontario (no disrespect), it just tells you how XENOPHOBIC and inward looking we, and particularly Argentine policy makers and businessmen, were in the past 70 years. The basic belief was that the rest of the world was worth sh!t and had nothing to offer, Argentina had it all.

For 70 years argentine wine makers only cared about supplying the domestic market, mostly cheap, mediocre but drinkable jug wine, and almost no fine wines. So no one outside the country even knew it was the world's 5th largest wine producer. And this was also the philosophy across all other sectors of society. In another thread people did not know about Argentina producing beef...

Or solid farming machinery... or autos... or nuclear & medical technologies... or fine leather goods... or being a bread basket for the world by producing wheat, soybeans, oats, etc...

Well, we got what we deserved! With all that Argentina can produce, from her natural resources, to her industries, and her intellectual capital, I now hope that historical blunder has been finally renounced.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6956 times:

So which is the MOST EXPENSIVE wine in Italy??? Anymore expensive than Australian ones like Grange/Hill of Grace etc?

I normally drink Italian, American and Australian wine.


25 Post contains links Russophile : People can go on and on and say this is the best wine or that is the best wine. But frankly, it is all personal opinion. If you want to know what are
26 Qb001 : So which is the MOST EXPENSIVE wine in Italy??? You'd have to expect a Barolo, such as Giacomo Conterno. Some Brunello-di-Montalcino (Biondi-Santi for
27 United Airline : How much are they????? Those top Italian wines I mean
28 Qantas077 : french wine is donkey's piss, real deal is australian wine, more in particular the wines of West Australia. Goundrey, Evans and Tate, Houghtons and th
29 SlamClick : Probably none of us will ever so much as taste the "best" of any country. If you compare by price the local wine will almost always be the best value.
30 United Airline : Well France has a MUCH longer history in producing wine and the top ones on earth are ALL from Bordeaux, France. Chateau Lafite is one of them. Also P
31 Post contains images Tbar220 : I'm not an expert in wine, but two of the best I've tried have come from Israeli wineries in Haifa and the Golan, and wines from Napa and Sonoma in Ca
32 L-188 : I have been sticking with the Aussie and South African wines mostly. Wish I could find a decent, "Eiswein" here (is that right? Algoes help!) There ar
33 United Airline : ROBERT MONDAVI OPUS ONE is very nice!
34 Post contains links and images Leskova : L-188, why don't you simply contact one of the wineries producing Eiswein (your spelling was correct) through the internet and have them send some to
35 Post contains images L-188 : I am thinking of the right stuff. It is wine, but you heat it up and drink it out of a shot glass. If it worked in the mild German winters, It should
36 Post contains images Leskova : L-188, the import rules of just about every country can be a pain - a friend is working himself through the ones of Brazil at the moment... enough sai
37 Post contains images L-188 : It could be. This was about 10 years ago so the memory may be a bit off. Especially after 1 or 2 shots of that stuff
38 Post contains images Arcano : I think the most important and traditional prodeucer, the mirror for the rest, is only one: FRANCE The rest of the world has many good things also, an
39 United Airline : From what I remember, the ranking was: 1) France 2) Italy 3) USA 4) Spain 5) Australia
40 Worldoftui : Nicest wine I have ever had: Dingac from the Dalmatian region of Croatia. Yum Mark
41 Qb001 : United_Airline, To answer your question, top Italian bottles will sell somewhere between 400$ to 1000$ - depending on the year, market condition, etc.
42 United Airline : US$????? The most expensive bottle of wine sold was actually a bottle of Chateau Lafite made in 1770s. It was purchased by a rich man in France. Aroun
43 Post contains images Ushermittwoch : Since I am no big fan of red wine, I will not comment on them. Although I can tell you that there is NO good wine from Greece, red or white. I have ha
44 L-188 : The most expensive bottle of wine sold was actually a bottle of Chateau Lafite made in 1770s Bottle of wine or 200 year old vinegar?
45 United Airline : I would say its just for the name. Doubt it is still drinkable. And even if it is, it would most likely taste like vinegar. Yeah Chateau Lafite.......
46 United Airline : Any good italian wines that you recommend?
47 WestJetYYZ : I know I am biased because I am Italian, but I do think Italian wines are the best. I really love a good Chianti. For a desert wine perhaps a nice Bar
48 Post contains images Qb001 : Any good Italian wines that you recommend? Kind of very open question... In red, I really like these (but it doesn't mean you'll find them in your are
49 United Airline : What about MARCHESE ANTINORI? And one called Barbaresco??
50 United Airline : Spanish Riojas is very nice too.
51 Post contains images Sebolino : For the French wine, I suggest: - Carre de vigne in elegant square boxes. - La villageoise, in beautiful green plastic bottles. - Pinard (!!!!), seen
52 Post contains links Teva : @ L-188 200 years for a bottle. However, when the wine is properly preserved, that may be OK. For instance, it is possible and easy to keep vin jaune
53 United Airline : Sebolino: How much are they? Is it worthwhile paying SO MUCH for 1 bottle of wine?
54 Post contains images Ushermittwoch : It's not only the wines in Greece, Teva, it's also the Greek wines sold anywhere else. But I will give you that they ALL have bad, crummy (also in the
55 An-225 : I am surprised that nobody mentioned Georgia. Names like Khvanchkara, Mukuzani, Kindzmarauli, Alazanskaya Dolina and Saperavi... Khvanchkara was fanci
56 Qb001 : What about MARCHESE ANTINORI? If you're referring to Tenute Marchese Antinori Riserva Chianti Classico, of course it's good. But it comes at a price:
57 United Airline : You talking about US$?????????
58 Qb001 : You talking about US$????????? Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ball park figures, of course. Prices will vary fro
59 United Airline : Oh ok! I normally buy a lot from overseas. Coz wines in Hong Kong are VERY EXPENSIVE, especially after Mr Anthony Leung, former Financial Secretary in
60 United Airline : Thought USA is the biggest whine maker. Hehe! Just kidding 1997 is a VERY GOOD year for Italian wines
61 United Airline : Any other good Italian wines? Is Allegrini a good one? Perhaps not as good and not as famous as ANTINORI right?
62 Post contains images Mighluss : La rioja, Spain. (no doubt!)
63 United Airline : That's a good wine! Yeah! No doubt Others???
64 United Airline : France: Pichon Baron 1994, Lynch Bages 1994 are very good. Lascombes is not bad too.
65 Kilavoud : Of course France !! My God, such a question !!!! Australia is producing nice white wines too. Congratulations !!! USA is still the country producing f
66 Galaxy5 : Red= Australian/south african White= Germany.
67 United Airline : Heard that the largest single wine company is actually in USA. Can anyone confirm that?
68 Srbmod : There will always be people saying that the wine from their country or region is the best in the world. Here in the US, we have vineyards in nearly ev
69 PeterPuck : Anyone out there ever have ice wine. It's the best thing with dessert!
70 United Airline : Yes. Canadian Ice Wine...... YUMMY!
71 United Airline : Does anyone have Barbaresco's homepage? Did a search. Couldn't find it. Any other Italian wines that you guys recommend?
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