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USS Reagan Arrives And We Got Hundred Of Whores!  
User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2411 posts, RR: 23
Posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3204 times:

Hi

The USS Reagan aircraft carrier just arrived to Valparaiso, Chile, and the whole city is crazy! After all, there are about 5000 marines, and that's a lot of money. Valparaiso is a beautiful British-style city, UNESCO world's heritage. The last stop of the crew was Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Valparaiso is full of prostitutes, with US flags of the brothel's windows! Even more, some "girls" arrived from Argentina to "satisfy the demand". The restaurants, night clubs, Vina del Mar, Santiago's Ski resorts and everyone have its eye on the Reagan.
The population of Valparaiso is a mess! and this weekend is special in Chile (holiday on Monday), so many people will go to Vina del Mar -resort city located next to Valparaiso, 1 hour away driving from Santiago-

It really surprises me, even at embarrasing poiny, all the fuzz about it; after all it's a big boat, but all the media is covering, the US Embassy has coordinated the landing of the crew. I'm not sure why exactly is this.

  • Maybe it's our Latin American inherent behavior

  • Maybe because we have this feeling of "end of the world country" and we feel nothing ever happens to us

  • Maybe because this is one of the signs we are far of becoming a developed minded country


  • Today at the news a guy said some words to be remember: "let's hope this ship will never return under different circumstances"

    When this huge special boats arrive in other countries, does it always happen the same?



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    User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
    Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3173 times:

    When this huge special boats arrive in other countries, does it always happen the same?

    Probably happens anytime a CVBG shows up.



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    User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3645 posts, RR: 15
    Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3172 times:

    I am sure it's the same with cruise ships as it is with military ships.

    Thousands of tourists in a new city = Lots and lots of $$$$$.

    Many Caribbean islands livelihood is dependent on the cruise industry. 2-3 ships a day in your port can mean over 10,000 new and eager tourists that need tours, food, souvenirs, etc every day. If a cruise line pulls out, people will suffer.


    User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3156 times:

    After all, there are about 5000 marines, and that's a lot of money.

    It's actually 5,000 NAVY sailors....there's probably less than 250 marines onboard, depending on if there's a Marine Hornet squadron aboard...then there'd be 500-ish....

    This isn't anything unusual....ever hear about all the port calls in the Philippines? Po City, Subic Bay, Phillipines? Now that was the mecca of a Shore Liberty, so I hear...whole towns dedicated to horney sailors who hadn't seen a woman in months....maybe some of the ex-navy guys here can tell some good sea stories  Big grin

    DeltaGuy

    [Edited 2004-06-26 04:18:01]

    User currently offlinePdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1120 posts, RR: 5
    Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

    DeltaGuy,

    I believe Arcano's reference to 'marines' relates to the fact the word 'sailor' is translated as 'marinero' or 'marino' in Spanish. The US military service distinction between Naval sailors and landing expedition Marines does not exist in all the world's armed forces.


    User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
    Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3141 times:

    How many people live in the city?
    Could well be it's less than the total number of sailors on the carrier and her escort group (at least the number of adults with an income).
    Their average income will be higher and they'll be eager to spend.

    That's one massive infusion of money into the local economy.

    Also remember that she's the biggest ship the city likely has ever seen.

    Then remember the political implications. Having a carrier berth and crew given shoreleave means the USA likes you.

    Last time one arrived in the Netherlands it wasn't big news, but they didn't stay long enough for serious shoreleave (and given the fact that it stayed out at sea and people were ferried to it by boat it's possible that any leave takers could have been flown to London instead).



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    User currently offlineNonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3127 times:

    USS Reagan Arrives And We Got Hundred Of Whores!

    I'm not suprised, everywhere Reagan went, the Republicans followed!

    Ooooooh, you mean THOSE whores...

    B


    User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3124 times:

    Pdpsol,

    Good call, thanks for the correction.....those dang spanish speakers  Big grin

    DeltaGuy


    User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2411 posts, RR: 23
    Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

    Deltaguy: I new about marines when I wrote it, but I forgot the word "sailor" and as PDP said, "marine" is veri close to "marinero". thank U both fot the correction. Yes... we blessed Spanish speakers...  Big grin  Big thumbs up

    Jwenting: Valparaiso actually belong to a system of cities next to each other, becoming a large urban area that is called "Gran Valparaiso". The total system hold more than 1.2 million people, although if you just consider Valpo. there might be a population of 500.000. This urban system is actually the second largest of Chile (the largest is Gran Santiago, with about 5.5 millions).

    Valparaiso was one of the two major ports of the Pacific coast of S. America (the other was Callao, Peru, the ever rivalring port for Valpo.) and one of the oldest cities of Chile. It's famous for its historic buildings, hills and funiculars. It is also the Legislative Capital City of Chile, because it hosts the National Congress (an hidious building and idea made by Pinochet). It is also the head quarters for the Chilean Navy. As for Chilean admininstration, the Easter Island belong to the Valparaiso Region (although is located in front of Antofagasta, about 1000 kms to the north)




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    User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
    Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3102 times:

    Guys, like it or not, regardless of nation prostitutes have been hanging around military bases for a while now.

    Just as a side note, you know where the term "Hooker" comes from?


    It is from US Civil War Union General Joesph Hooker, and was first applied to the caravan of prostitutes that followed the his Headquarters when he was put in charge of the Army of the Potomac.

    http://www.civilwarhome.com/hookbio.htm



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    User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
    Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

    Any time a carrier group pulls into port it's MONEY for the local economies. The carousing thing is a tad bit over blown though. Most United States Naval personnel shore leave consists of looking for relaxation and sight seeing with drinking and spending money thrown in for good measure.

    Glad Uncle Sam can contribute financially to such a fine city such as Valparaiso. I have to mention also that Valparaiso was a "must" stop for many of the worlds navies in the 1700's and early 1800's.

    Viva Chile!






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    User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
    Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

    Capitalism at its best. The desire to satisfy rational self interest means sailors want to hook up on shore.

    User currently offlineNonrevman From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1302 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3025 times:

    Yes, it is not unusual. When my former carrier USS John C Stennis showed up in Halifax, Nova Scotia, a lot of prostitutes from Montreal showed up to handle the demand.

    Really, I think that Navy ships are good for a local economy in the same sense of a cruise ship. Those sailors will be more than happy to go on liberty and explore a little of Chile. They will spend some money there too.


    User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4364 posts, RR: 19
    Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3005 times:

    We just toured victoria, Canada last week on the USS John C. Stennis and im telling you, with 8,000 sailors in the battle group, the city increases dramatically. We were greeted by the canadians and every restuaruants, clubs, threatres all had signs saying "Welcome USS Stennis." Everyone knows with 8,000 sailors, they will spend ALOT of money on food and drinks as well as gifts. I know too many people spending thousands of dollars in less then 3 days while we were in port. I wish I was on the USS Reagan. I wonder how it will be, money wise, spending a week in Pearl Harbour, Hawaii next week.

    Kevin



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    User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
    Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

    They sent you guys ashore at Victoria?

    Why?

    They should have brought that boat up to Anchroage.



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    User currently offlineWorldoftui From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

    I was in the Seychelles one time when a US ship pulled into port. They used to use Kenya, but due to security issues, chose the Seychelles instead.

    Now considering that the total land area of the islands is about the same as Manhattan, and the fact that the little islands are a dream destination for honeymooners, they certainly had a impact. 4000 service men descending on the island for a few days.....

    Don't think that the islands had any extra prostitutes bought in, but every hotel, every scuba trip, every bar and every casino was packed out.

    I was on a work trip so I didn't mind. To be honest, I think we enjoyed the company. They were all a good laugh! Ended up getting drunk with them! I don't think the paying customers had the same opinion.

    I felt sorry for them. Is hard to blend in when you and 3999 other buzz cuts arrive on a tiny little island. Plus not the liveliest of places

    And as for the prostitutes, well, kinda to be expected. At least you know that after a few days, things will be back to normal.


    Mark


    User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 25
    Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

    On several ocasions some years ago, I've seen US warships in the bay of Benidorm. Benidorm hasn't got a major port which can accomodate these large ships, but the US Navy just used the Benidorm Bay so their crew could have a couple of days off.

    Everytime, this was a major operation with US Military Police patrolling the streets of Benidorm along with the Spanish police and it meant a considerable boost to bar- en restaurant owners as well as the prostitution-business.
    I believe every single visit of such a large ship wasn't without trouble though, especially between 'British Beer Drinking Drunks on a Package Holliday Looking for a Fight' and 'US Beer Drinking Drunks With Only a Couple of Hours on Shore to Enjoy themselves'.

    I haven't seen any US Navy, or navy of another nationality, use Benidorm so their crew can have 'a good time'. I wonder why...




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    User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4364 posts, RR: 19
    Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2967 times:

    L-188, Ancohrage would be nice. Victoria was okay for a port call. It was nice to see some pretty canadian girls. We were anchored out about a mile from the pier and had to take taxi boats from the ship to pier to get ashore. It realyl sucks having 2,000+ people trying to get off at the same time.

    One of our battle group ship got to stop in Homer, Alaska for couple days.

    Kevin



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    User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
    Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2968 times:

    I graduated High School in Homer.

    Occasionally they get the occasiona ship, which is good, ticks off the hippie's to some extent.

    I think it was the USS Ford from your group that made it up to Anchorage last month. Definately looked like a Perry boat to me.




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    User currently offlineBiggles20 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 195 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2950 times:

    Hello All,

    I've been in Singapore when a US carrier group has come in. The CBD fills up pretty damn quickly and its worse at night. Don't know about the hookers, but I assume its a similar scenario to places already mentioned.

    On a lighter note, there was a tour around the carrier last time, though I missed it as the group was only in port for a short time...

    I once saw some Russian sailors too, though not quite as many all at once!!!

    biggles


    User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
    Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2931 times:

    A typical Nimitz Class Carrier when deployed with Airwing has about 5,000 Sailors and Marines, however I believe the Reagan has much less than that right now because they are not on a deployment but rather are moving the brand new ship from it's place of Construction (Newportnews Virginia) to it's new Homeport of San Diego.

    Since it's too big for the Panama Canal they are sailing it around South America, without a airwing.

    They probably have 1,000-2,000 sailors aboard, they are just moving it not conducting operations.



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    User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2905 times:

    It will be nice for the US mariners to exploret their own little "corner" of Chile. I wonder how many kids wearing little sailor caps will be left behind?

     Smile


    User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
    Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2882 times:

    Gocaps16 --

    Were you guys in Vancouver, too? Saw a couple of big naval ships in the harbour last week (far too big to be Canadian) -- looked like cruisers (but what do I know?).




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    User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2879 times:

    Since it's too big for the Panama Canal they are sailing it around South America, without a airwing.

    At least some of the air wing is on board, they were doing war games with Brazil on their way down. I guess the Navy is using this as an extra shake down cruise.



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    User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined exactly 15 years ago today! , 4318 posts, RR: 11
    Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2863 times:

    Hmmm...

    Must have bipassed the Provinces then, I sure didn't hear or read anything about any US ships in the region. Maybe it is just a Chilean thing...

    Or maybe Argentina is not Latin American after all.  Wow!

    As for any XX migratory workers Arcano spotted around Valparaiso, I'm confident Chile most probably gets the visually better deal in the ongoing trade of these goods between Argentina and Chile....

     Wink/being sarcastic



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    25 BoingGoingGone : Hey bud, you always had them. They all just came out to see the biggest baddest Aircraft Carrier on the planet and get some real Johnson.
    26 Post contains images Arcano : Hola Derico! You are right, you didn't hear anything in your fully third world class typicall Latin American Country because, as you said, it was bypa
    27 Pdpsol : Hey BoingGoingGone, Hey bud, you always had them. They all just came out to see the biggest baddest Aircraft Carrier on the planet and get some real J
    28 Post contains links L-188 : They all just came out to see the biggest baddest Aircraft Carrier on the planet and get some real Johnson. Unfortunatly that ship, CV-6, USS Enterpri
    29 Arcano : I went to ski today, and in the lifters I met some sailors. Of course I asked them this. They thought it was really funny, specially this prostitute i
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