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Beheading Country Of The Week: Turkey  
User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

Here we go again... at least they're getting closer and closer to beheading themselves.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/26/iraq.main/index.html

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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

Maybe Turkey will do a Spain and give in to the beheaders demands..., then you'd see about 5000 beheadings this week from every country on the planet.

J


User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1336 times:

Those guys are already dead.

Sad, but true. Make a video, kill'em, send part 1 of the video, wait a week and send part 2. Welcome to terrorism. Some parts of the world have been face to face with this for decades. So, you want to see this every day or put an end to it. Like the issue of war or not, killing them is the only thing they understand. They don't negotiate.


User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1321 times:

how many "weekly beheadings" were there before the invasion of iraq?
dubya got some bloody hands there.

the mechanism is quite simple: invade a country against vast worldwide opposition so that the moderate and normal muslims get suckered into extremism who all of a sudden have a truckload full of arguments and propaganda on their side and get the whole region into one big religious FUBAR.

good job dubya with your arrogant "bring em on" talk, one can only hope that the american voters will "bring em on" and get this christian fundamentalist with his crusades out of the white house and out of the reach of nuclear (or is it nuklelear, george?) weapons.



10=2
User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

Only an idiot would blame these killings on anyone other than the scoundrels themselves.

Right you are again Clipperhawaii!



"You Can't Beat The Experience"
User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1302 times:

Only an idiot would blame these killings on anyone other than the scoundrels themselves.

He's from Antartica... I think its the default over there.


User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1301 times:

the mechanism is quite simple: invade a country against vast worldwide opposition so that the moderate and normal muslims get suckered into extremism who all of a sudden have a truckload full of arguments and propaganda on their side and get the whole region into one big religious FUBAR.

True, true. That's why I think the US needs to pull out of Iraq, the UN moves in, we leave Saudi Arabia, that would reduce terrorism quite a bit, but that's another story. Unfortunetly, neither Kerry nor Bush would do that.



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User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1290 times:

He's from Antartica... I think its the default over there.

OH MY I have never laughed so hard at any post like that one on here in the almost 5 years I have been here!!!  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up

It's not my intent to actually call anyone any names. He is entitled to his opinion. What I am saying that in no way can you put blame what is happening to these innocent people at the hands of Bush.

Sorry but that is way over the top and just nonsense.



"You Can't Beat The Experience"
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1233 times:

What? I thought you went to war because Saddam was a threat to the US and her allies? Not because he was killing his own people?

Why aren't you going after all the other dictators who kill their own people?


User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1220 times:

True, true. That's why I think the US needs to pull out of Iraq, the UN moves in,

That's a dangerous set-up for a Balkans-style civil war and "ethnic cleansing" campaigns amongst Iraq's various ethnic and religious groups.

The UN has no history of sucessful nation-building under its belt, and they've "observed" while some of the worst genocides in history go on under their noses - Cambodia, Rwanda, the Former Yugoslavia - because they've been without the mandate or independant military power to stop it.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1220 times:

777236ER: Why aren't you going after all the other dictators who kill their own people?

Simple: Some of those actually have WMDs!  Wink/being sarcastic



User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1175 times:

out of the reach of nuclear (or is it nuklelear, george?) weapons.

It's nucular. Or nukeular. Either spelling is correct, according to him.



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1161 times:

I love it when the truth gets deleted around here.

User currently offlineSolarix From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1150 times:

dubya got some bloody hands there.

According to Zak, the terrorist are not responsible for any deaths.
Peace loving angels they are!

Can you spot Bush in this photo?


I didn't think so.

Bush is no angel himself but you are totally brain washed to believe he is the one who is committing these acts. You should be blaming the terrorists!


User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1135 times:

"According to Zak, the terrorist are not responsible for any deaths.
Peace loving angels they are!"

i have never said a word about the terrorists being not responsible.
of course they are, however, without bush being at the helm and allowing such a scenario to happen, thousands of people would still have their lives (yeah yeah and a bunch of iraqis would be dead under saddam).

bush is CIC, he gave orders that led to this mega fubar. he up till now has not made the slightest attempt to revoke his position, he even further fuels the hatred by including his very personal religion into the issue. without current u.s. policies these people would not have the excellent "working enviroment" they have now.
bush, by ordering this war, is responsible for the death of almost a thousand u.s. citizens to this day, scores of injured, many crippled for life et cetera.
and do not try to justify the war with "but saddam would have killed many of his own people too", even if he was a brutal dictator, i doubt there would have been as many dead iraqis as there had been since the war started. apart from that, since when is it the u.s. presidents job to look after the well being of avg joe from iraq, at the cost of u.s. lives and 100+bn of u.s. taxpayers money?

be more realistic about it, with that kind of money countless more things could have been done that would have been more effective at "helping" people or fighting terrorism. as for now the money and lives spent in iraq are diverted from the real, important, war on terror and used to sponsor "terrorism the next generation". if compassion was the motive of the u.s. administration, they would have to war 50 other countries at least, many of those full of villains that members of the administration have been good friends with since reagans and bush sr.'s term.



10=2
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5386 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1071 times:

I pray that this demonstrates to the world that the insurgents in Iraq are murderous thugs and not the "freedom fighters" that some would love to protray them as *cough Roy cough*. By threatening to behead other Muslims, the terrorists demonstrate their hypocrisy. It's not that they're "trying to save Iraq" - it's that they must slake their thirst for blood.


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User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1049 times:

he even further fuels the hatred by including his very personal religion into the issue.

Wrong!

Bush has gone to great links to praise the Islamic religion and those who abide by the peaceful teachings of the Koran. Because he sites his own religion makes him a bad guy? Perhaps you have not heard of religious freedom that is written into our constitution?

At a time of widespread anti-American feeling in the Islamic world, Mr. Bush also took pains to praise Turkey for building a secular democracy that could serve as an example to other predominantly Muslim nations.

Meeting with local Christian, Jewish and Muslim leaders, he also described Turkey as a country that has fostered tolerance between its Islamic majority and its minority religious groups.

"They represent the very best of Turkey, which is a country that is secular in politics and strong in its faith," he said. He ended his remarks by thanking the assembled Turkish religious figures "for being so faithful to the Almighty God."



You can twist it all you like but the fact remains...there is nothing you can say to counter Bush's position. Perhaps that's the rub.

I (corrected capitalization )have never said a word about the terrorists being not responsible.

That is correct. You have not. Uhh hmmm.



"You Can't Beat The Experience"
User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1038 times:

Hey we're forgetting about Pakistan too. One of them being a US Marine.

According to Al-Jazeera, three Lebanese men are also being held captive.

 Sad



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User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1008 times:

Nuke them and take all of them out

User currently offlineGREATANSETT From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 508 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1001 times:

Freshlove1- We will then be just as bad as them, and besides you won't stop terrorism, they'll just get another plane and do 11/9 all over again.


Ron Paul 2012
User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1002 times:

11/9?????? did I miss something???

User currently offlineGREATANSETT From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 508 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 991 times:

Sorry I ment 9/11 but in Australia it's backwards, sorry. Embarrassment


Ron Paul 2012
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 996 times:

Zak, What makes your argument silly in the eyes of many is that this conflict has been heating up for years, and conflict causing the death of thousands upon thousands was inevitable. The U.S. did not fire the first shots in this conflict, whether in Iraq or against Al Qeada. If Iraq had not been invaded, those terrorists would simply find somewhere else to kidnap and behead. And we will see more. I predict that the Islamic world will be a warzone for the next 50 years. I also predict that at some point, a terrorist WMD will be set off in an American city, and the response will be the complete wiping out, by nuclear weapons, of a large chunk of the middle eastern population. At some point the U.S. will realize that the enemy will never stop unless they adopt the same tactics. The war will end when much of the Arabian peninsula has been turned to glass.

Remember that only about 5% of the Iraq population support the resistance. Over 90% want them stopped whatever it takes, including via martial law. Do you want to give up the dreams of 90% of the Iraqi popualtion just to satisfy the most violent 5%? What does that make you? Iraq is nothing but a sidebar in the overall conflict - rather like the Norwegian campaign in regards to all of WWII.

Charles


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