DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 704 times:
Greaser, I couldn't agree with you more. While I don't believe Bush is the smartest man alive, I do believe that he's surrounded himself with good people, and manages to do well with what he's given. It's not just one man, it's who and what he brings in with him.
Kerry, while he toots his horn about all his years of service, just doesn't seem to fit the profile as someone we should trust with the keys to this nation....I really wouldn't feel safe terrorism-wise with him at the reigns...
QIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 697 times:
Greaser, I couldn't agree with you more. While I don't believe Bush is the smartest man alive, I do believe that he's surrounded himself with good people, and manages to do well with what he's given. It's not just one man, it's who and what he brings in with him.
Deltaguy.....
Hwo do you know what people Kerry will bring in? You say that you dont want Kerry to be president because of him. And you say that Bush isn't the smartest man alive. But thanx to the men behinf him theey are deoing a "good" job.
So how can you say that, before you know which people he will bring in?
He could do the same job as Bush, maybe even better.
Edit: I don't like any of them. I'm glad I don't have to choose between those 2 people. I would rather have Wesley Clark or McCain as presidents..
An-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 45 Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 689 times:
Hey, Greaser, before asking the question, maybe you should learn how to properly spell, instead of using that god damn internet jive that you're using.
As for the topic, yes, I do like Kerry, and I hope he wins in November. I don't however think that he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Alex.
Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
Itsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2765 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 677 times:
I do believe that he's surrounded himself with good people
You mean the likes of Dick Cheney who tells fellow politicians to "fuck off"? Or do you mean Donald Rumsfeld who condoned the torture and mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners, many of whom have since been released from incarceration? Or are you referring to Condoleezza Rice who, only after public and private pressure from "W" himself, finally agreed to testify before the 9/11 Commission (makes you wonder what she has to hide)?
I have to wonder if "W" ever said to any of his advisors, "No, I have a better idea". I'm guessing not. The man is a bumbling idiot and an embarrassment to the office of The President of The United States which makes him an embarrassment to every American citizen. Will Kerry be better? Who knows but he sure can't be any worse. I say we give him a chance.
767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 664 times:
NO...I don't like him
Twinjets...if one fails, work the other one twice as hard!!!
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 657 times:
I'll take him, in politics and in this case, the evil I do not know is better than the evil I do (Mr. Bush and friends!)
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 646 times:
I like him. I think he's a decent man, and I think he will surround himself with far better people, far less reactionary people, than President Bush has. Anyone who thinks Rummy, Ashcroft, Cheney and Condi are "good people" better look up the meaning of "good". They're all extremists, and they've all done a poor job of serving this nation and it's interestes, and doing a lot of long-term damange to the good name of the U.S.
I'll take Kerry. But remember, this shouldn't be a personality contest. If it were, we wouldn't have had the candidate we had in '00, or this year. Whether one likes it or not, a certain percentage of any vote will be "Anyone but the incumbent" vote. The Republicans who critisize some of us for supporting Kerry, should just think back to '96. Do you not believe a lot of the Repubican vote for Bob Dole was simply "anyone but Clinton"? It was, and it's the same this time around.
My brother-in-law is a lifelong Republican. He's voted GOP in every election since he was old enough to vote. He switched to being Democrat this year, because he's fed up with Bush. My parents both voted for President Bush in '00. Both are voting Kerry this time, because they feel anyone but Bush is needed for this nation. My mother is even going to volunteer for the local Democratic Party headquarters to help there. I know three guys at work, lifelong Republicans, who are sick of Mr. Bush, and are voting Kerry.
So yes, part of this isn't whether people are crazy about Kerry or not, but they think 4 more years of Bush is intolerable for this nation. It's just a fact.
MxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 40 Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 634 times:
Alpha1,
For once I must salute and commend you! You actually posted something, anti-bush (but we'll work on that in the next 4 years) and didn't once blame Bush for all of the ills of man! Bravo! There is hope for you yet!
MxCtrlr
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N6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 630 times:
Listen, this is going to sound disingenuous coming from me (a traditional supporter of the GOP) but honestly, I'm not sure what Sen Kerry stands for.
I have some ideas of what he's against, but I've never heard a good summary of what John Kerry is for in specific terms that allow me to evaluate what his plan is for the country,not the generic - more employment; and closing tax loopholes for the rich, but exactly how he's going to increase employment and which loopholes need to be closed.
Could someonone point me in the right (ney, correct) direction?
MxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 40 Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 627 times:
You can work on me all you want, I'll remain anti-Bush all the way through Jeb.
Glad you mentioned that! Maybe Jeb in 2008!?????? Living in Florida, I hope we never see that day! On that one, I'll agree with you!
MxCtrlr
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DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53 Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 618 times:
I personally don't care for the man based on what I have seen so far from him. I like many others have no idea what he is for, though he certainly uses a lot of adjectives in comparing how things would be different. But so far, there has been no substance. Talk is cheap this time of year.
Evidently, there are even rumors the DEMs may dump him at the convention due to his lack luster performance to date. He has numbers in the poles, but I have not seen any big time support from his party yet. It is a shame to be the guy known as "The anyone other then Bush.."
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 617 times:
Evidently, there are even rumors the DEMs may dump him at the convention due to his lack luster performance to date.
Here is a guy, even with an incumbent President in the polls-a president who a year ago had approval ratings of 70%, and you say they're going to dump him? What are you smoking JeffM?
but I have not seen any big time support from his party yet
He's raising campaign funds like wildfire right now, and not from $5000 a plate dinners, like Bush has done. He's raised it from the average joe, who give $10, $25 or $50 when he can. He doesn't have the war chest Bush has had, but he has been a match for Bush in fundraising since late May, and he won't run out of funds soon. He has a legitimate shot at winning.
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 616 times:
RE: It is a shame to be the guy known as "The anyone other then Bush.."
I don't know so much - it worked for Jacques Chirac. At the last Presidential Election, it was him against Jean-Marie Le Pen (France's answer to GWB), and Chirac landed a gigantic 88% majority (which he in turn has interpreted as a divine mandate to do whatever the hell he wants, rather than seeing it for what it is - the French would have voted the StayPuff Marshmallow man for President, rather than Le Pen). Never underestimate the value of the electorate already hating your opponent before you even start - its saves you an awful lot of work !
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 609 times:
I don't like a single blessed thing about the guy, other than his impending loss in '04
...and that's only after a heck of a lot of research. The only thing the guy's let out about himself thusfar is that he's been to Vietnam, and he's not Bush.
far less reactionary people, than President Bush has
...and you think that, in these times, is a good thing?!
better look up the meaning of "good"
adj. bet·ter, (btr) best (bst)
Being positive or desirable in nature; not bad or poor: a good experience; good news from the hospital.
Having the qualities that are desirable or distinguishing in a particular thing: a good exterior paint; a good joke.
Superior to the average; satisfactory: a good student.
and doing a lot of long-term damange to the good name of the U.S.
...all while strengthening the nation's economy & military after the Clinton/Gore recession, 9/11, and two war-like conflicts. I'll take that any day over a "good name" thanks.
Itsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2765 posts, RR: 11 Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 552 times:
Out of all your posts Scott, I must say this one was your worst...not just on gramatical errors either, buddy
Hmmmm, I wonder DeltaGuy, what's it like to be perfect? Pretty lonely, I imagine.
P.S. Ever heard the old saying, "Those who live in a glass house shouldn't throw stones"? There are 2 "m's" in grammatical.
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