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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9317 times:

I'm not trying to make any kind of point. I just think this is terribly sad.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/3876615.stm


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9290 times:

This is very unlikely with their person who kill them and it is not good for their crimes either.

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9289 times:

Sad. Not to completely alter the course of the post, but I'm curious--

Assisted suicide, what say you: Yes or No?


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9279 times:

It's a reasonable question, Concordeboy. If that alters the course of the thread, so be it.

In principle yes, but I can't see how you could ever be sure it's exactly what that person wants. It gets into dangerous waters. Legally, I can't see how it would work.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9270 times:

Agreed.

But what if, say, the person pre-writes a will specifically stating that they'd require assisted suicide at a certain point/condition: example being someone who gets diagnosed with Alzheimers or a terminal cancer.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9260 times:

The usual argument against that is "What if they change their mind?". It's the same thing throughout. You can't be certain that they still want to go through with it - especially if they suffer from something as debilitating as Alzheimers.

I'm not disagreeing with you. This subject is horrendously difficult, and if truth be told I don't really know where I stand on it. I feel that if I was going through something that awful I'd want to be put out of my misery; but I feel that now. Would I feel that way when it came to it? I just don't know.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9244 times:

I understand what you're saying, and agree completely.

But then again, there are other issues (spousal privilege in the event of debilitation, etc) just as tough that were eventually legislatively worked through, despite continuing difficulty. I think this will eventually be another.


User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9213 times:



Like Banco said, horrendously difficult.

Making a personal decision on assisted suicide, euthanasia, whatever, requires you to be able to come to terms with your own mortality - not something many (any?) of us would find easy.
Think about your mortality now, and what the future brings...

Myself, I can't find it in me to support something like assisted suicide or euthanasia - seems too easy to abuse in someway.

As far as the actual case, what does this say about the way we treat the elder members of our society?
I understand the situation from a UK perspective - but would a similar situation arise elsewhere in Europe or USA?
Please do not interpret this as an opportunity to kick off an infantile Europe vs USA slanging match, but is there anything that we can learn from this sad situation?

Incidentally, that the case went to court was absolutely the right thing. DI Phil Burke explains this well on the BBC website link.



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