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Normandy Invasion As Reported In 2004 Terms  
User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 23
Posted (11 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Wish I could take credit for this, but I found it in a different forum...


June 6, 1944. -

NORMANDY- Three hundred French civilians were killed and thousands more wounded today in the first hours of America's invasion of continental Europe. Casualties were heaviest among women and children.

Most of the French casualties were the result of artillery fire from American ships attempting to knock out German fortifications prior to the landing of hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops. Reports from a makeshift hospital in the French town of St. Mere Eglise said the carnage was far worse than the French had anticipated and reaction against the American invasion was running high. "We are dying for no reason," said a Frenchman speaking on condition of anonymity. "Americans can't even shoot straight. I never thought I'd say this, but life was better under Adolph Hitler."

The invasion also caused severe environmental damage. American troops, tanks, trucks and machinery destroyed miles of pristine shoreline and thousands of acres of ecologically sensitive wetlands. It was believed that the habitat of the spineless French crab was completely wiped out, threatening the species with extinction. A representative of Greenpeace said his organization, which had tried to stall the invasion for over a year, was appalled at the destruction, but not surprised. "This is just another example of how the military destroys the environment without a second thought, " said Christine Moanmore. "And it's all about corporate greed. "

Contacted at his Manhattan condo, a member of the French government-in-exile who abandoned Paris when Hitler invaded said the invasion was based solely on American financial interests. "Everyone knows the President Roosevelt has ties to big beer," said Pierre LeWimp. "Once the German beer industry is conquered, Roosevelt's beer cronies will control the world market and make a fortune. "

Administration supporters said America's aggressive actions were based in part on the assertions of controversial scientist Albert Einstein, who sent a letter to Roosevelt speculating that the Germans were developing a secret weapon, a so-called "atomic bomb." Such a weapon could produce casualties on a scale never seen before and cause environmental damage that could last for thousands of years. Hitler has denied having such a weapon and international inspectors were unable to locate such weapons even after spending two long weekends in Germany.

Shortly after the invasion began reports surfaced that German prisoners had been abused by Americans. Mistreatment of Jews by Germans at so-called "concentration camps" has been rumored but so far, remains unproven. Several thousand Americans died during the first hours of the invasion and French officials are concerned that uncollected corpses pose a public health risk. "The Americans should have planned for this in advance," they said. "It's their mess and we don't intend to clean it up."

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User currently offlineDuce50boom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 2029 times:


That would be funny if it weren't so true. Good on you for posting it!

User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 9418 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

"Wish I could take credit for this, but I found it in a different forum..."

Yeah, like this one: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/index.main/


Besides that, I'll leave the mudslinging to the usual suspects. Thanks Galaxy5 for yet another thread leading to it.  Yeah sure

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User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

"Don't mess with Texas"

-George W. Bush

I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 67
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

That really has to be one of the dumbest things I've read on a.net in a long, long time... the Non-Aiation forum is falling to new lows...

I can barely wait for the election in the US, because whoever wins, at least all this pre-election bashing of just about everything in sight might go away again...

Well, not completely - more than enough people around here will take care of that, but maybe it'll recede back to normal levels...

Smile - it confuses people!
User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 1995 times:

pre-election bashing? both sides are doing it.

It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

The op-ed itself seems to have originated from a guy called Alex McRae of a 'quality newspaper called "The Times-Herald" of Newnan, GA. Check their impressively profesional website (http://newnan.com/tv9/). A picture of Mr McRae (and a link to his e-mail address) is also on that page.

The problem with these writings is that some people will actually believe them. And may I remind Galaxy5 and some others that whilst Europe is greatly thankfull to the Americans of 1944 for what they did for most of the Europeans of that same period, Europe is equally thankfull of the Russians. Russia lost far more soldiers with their participation than the US did, yet I still have to hear the first Russian bring up this fact in a discusison, or a Canadian.

Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14968 posts, RR: 61
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

BTW, the plans for the Normandy invasion were British, based on their experiences in Dieppe 1942.
The whole operation hinged on the British and Canadians stopping the Germans in the east to allow the Americans to swing around the left flank.


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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

An idiocy that has been posted here more than once, comparing different times in history. Of course, it's aimed at blaming anything "liberal" for all the woes in the world, and the like. It's idotic; it has nothing to do with reality, but it makes the neocons feel good about themselves.

User currently offlineDl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11454 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 1936 times:
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ok, just to be correct here, and not to show any disrespect for the brave Canadians at Dieppe, nor for the heroic Brits and Canucks who landed, the plan was not about the Brits "stopping the Germans" The Brits were supposed to be in Caen by D+3 and got bogged down. They did not reach Caen until august it believe. The German defence in Normandy used terrain and the advantage of defence (it takes 3-1 manpower advantage to defeat prepared positions in those days) to slow down allied advances. The Americans actually hit the most prepared beach of the day, and te swing around the Falaise pocket was an American (Patton) revamp of the original plan designed to cut off the Germans and force their retreat or surrendeur.

Also, the Newnan paper, while a small town paper to be sure, is well put together and strives for accuracy and integrity.

Oh, yeah, with the type of reporting we get nowadays we never would have been able to sustain national morale if todays reporters were reporting the European and Pacific theaters of combat casualties. I think Alpha is just lookig for an excuse to use the word/phrase "neo-cons".

Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineDuce50boom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 1930 times:


The whole point of that "op-ed" is that people view things how they're told by others. The interpretations of someone who calls themselves an "expert" may or may not be correct. This happens with everything, including war, you have to take the good with the bad. And filter the truth from the BS. But don't just look at the bad and say "my god, it's a quagmire!" Look at the whole package (sts) and then base your judgement on that, not just the smaller details. Just like someone shouldn't read conservative statements about Iraq and take it all as the gospel, you shouldn't take liberal's statements and not try to filter the BS there.

For example, yes, electricity in Iraq is not super-reliable. Well, what do you expect in a country that's had no outside investment for the last decade and has been under the rule of a ruthless dictator and family for decades? The coalition forces and contractors are restoring power as best they can under the circumstances- PG&E doesn't have to deal with terrorist attacks while they're trying to fix the power lines that cover YOUR neighborhood. But you also shouldn't take conservative statements that "There are only a few problem children in Iraq ruining it for everyone". They're both wrong

To put another spin to it. If you believe Pat Robertson is full of s**t, don't take what Michael Moore says and spout it as the truth because they're both extremists and you'll never get a straight answer out of either of them

User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 67
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 4 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Go Canada!: pre-election bashing? both sides are doing it.

I agree - that's why, in my post, you do not see me mentioning "pre-election bashing coming from the republicans" or "pre-election bashing coming from the democrats", but just general "pre-election bashing"...

Smile - it confuses people!
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 30404 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 4 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

Yeah, sorry but this is a repeat posting.

Still it does make you think about how the media is currently reporting things, and why are they doing it so slanted!

User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

I agree L-188. And leave it to the usual suspects to not recognise it and immediately call the entire thing anti-Kerry propaganda (makes one think, maybe they recognise it as the style of reporting Kerry and his supporters constantly engage in but don't want to be confronted with that?).

I wish I were flying
User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

Jwenting (jeroentje):

I, for one, am getting a bit tired (and I am expressing myself mildly) with YOUR constant accusations which you can't even back-up with a proper link.

On top of that, you have the very annoying habit of not following-up on the posts in the discussions you take part in. I wonder why this is. Because you can't back-up your claims perhaps?

And now to your post itself. You say you agree with L-188, who wonders how it comes the media nowadays is reporting the way they are. And the next thing YOU do is make a bold accusation, without a link, which you can't prove, about the Kerry supporters.

Care to explain that?

Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
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