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Whose Money Is Funding The Occupation Of Iraq?  
User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

It seems that much of the money sanctioned for the occupation and subjugation of Iraq has not been used after all! Why? Becuase the American occupation force found it much more convenient to tap into the resources fo the country they had occupied. Just like British in India charged the Indians for the occupation of India!

Some links to the story:


http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=5473

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26310-2004Jul3.html

Some excerpts:

The U.S.-led occupation authorities were much quicker to channel Iraq's own money, expending or earmarking nearly all of $20 billion in a special development fund fed by the country's oil sales, a congressional investigator said.

Only $366 million of the $18.4 billion U.S. aid package had been spent as of June 22, the White House budget office told Congress in a report that offers the first detailed accounting of the massive reconstruction package.

Thus far, according to the report, nothing from the package has been spent on construction, health care, sanitation and water projects. More money has been spent on administration than all projects related to education, human rights, democracy and governance.


Will there be an end to this continued rape of that country?

-Roy

50 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

Iraq gets 366 million dollars free and you call it a rape?

If anybody is getting raped it is the US taxpayer.



If it had been a loan I wouldn't be so bitter about it.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

Spending Iraqi oil money to employ Iraqis and to build infrastructure to help Iraqis. How shameful...  Insane



User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1468 times:

Invading a country on false pretences, killing thousands (including US and British soldiers) needlessly and then stealing the oil revenues...marvelous...just marvelous


Spending Iraqi oil money to employ Iraqis and to build infrastructure to help Iraqis.

 Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin I needed that Cfalk, thanks for the laugh! Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin



EGYPT: A 7,000 Year Old Civilisation
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

Horus, I still haven't figured out how the US is stealing oil revenues from a country that had an oil export embargo placed on it?


OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

If anybody is getting raped it is the US taxpayer.

And yet, L-188, you still think this war is some great, noble thing.

Spending Iraqi oil money to employ Iraqis and to build infrastructure to help Iraqis. How shameful...

Yes, how dare we try to employ them. Scandalous (dripping with sarcasm).

And yes, Horus, and my old friend, Tovarich, what is wrong with channeling that oil money to rebuild the infrastructure. Remember, I'm against this war, but it's a fact of life, and if we're going to rebuild it, that's the easiest way to do it.

Nice to see you, by the way, Comrade. You haven't started a hate-fulled anti-American post in a long time.  Big grin


User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1391 times:

My dear Alpha1:
Aaah! Alpha1 with his pseudo-liberal rants! A wannabe liberal but with extreme views! Jump off the fence dude and take a stand!

And DO NOT, repeat DO NOT keep using words like Tovarich. Keep the discussion moderate. You have been warned!!


what is wrong with channeling that oil money to rebuild the infrastructure.

You obviously have not bothered to read the articles or even the summary. (Why am i not surprised?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy) so for your benefit, here is a part of the article re-posted (in Bold for your benefit and all the others hard of reading)


Thus far, according to the report, nothing from the package has been spent on construction, health care, sanitation and water projects. More money has been spent on administration than all projects related to education, human rights, democracy and governance.



-Roy


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

Aaah! Alpha1 with his pseudo-liberal rants! A wannabe liberal but with extreme views!



I am liberal-not in the way my right wing friends like B757300, or Jcs17 think of as a liberal, but, in American terms, I am center-left, comrade. I always get a kick when you paint me as some sort of extremist. That always gives me a good chuckle.

And DO NOT, repeat DO NOT keep using words like Tovarich. Keep the discussion moderate. You have been warned!!

Why? Or you'll cry to the moderators? You can certainly dish it out, comrade, but you can't take it, can you?  Laugh out loud

And I read the rest, Roy. I don't see what you're up in arms over-except for that fact, as usual, that you have a chance to spit on America or Americans, which is your favorite past-time.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

And DO NOT, repeat DO NOT keep using words like Tovarich. Keep the discussion moderate. You have been warned!!

Oh God..........................did YOU just tell someone to be moderate, Tovarich?

This coming from the most extreme member regarding beliefs on this webpage?

Oh the irony and hypocrisy simply makes me laugh, yet frown at how sad that is.



-NWA742


User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1378 times:

Why? Or you'll cry to the moderators? You can certainly dish it out, comrade, but you can't take it, can you?

No, because it makes you look like a moron. The word is товарищ (tovarishch).

Only someone who comes from a pissweak educational system would spell it as товарич (tovarich).

Which would explain why that spelling is used incorrectly, almost exclusively, by Americans Big grin


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1371 times:

No, because it makes you look like a moron. The word is товарищ (tovarishch).

I've seen it spelled "tovarich" in many publications, so don't go correcting me, OK? If you don't like it, too bad. It has nothing to do with education, but how it's spelled IN THIS COUNTRY. If that's the best you can hammer me with, tovarich, then you don't have much.


User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

If you wanna try to look cool and smart, don't fuck up.

Like I said. The result of a pissweak educational system. Just because it's how it's spelt there, doesn't make it right. And yes, it does look moronic, and yes you are wrong, so I will correct you, OK?

By the way, in your country, it is spelt comrade.

Anyway, off to have a bowl of borshch -- that's borch to the illiterate and uneducated.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

TOVARICH TOVARICH TOVARICH TOVARICH TOVARICH

Are you getting pissed off yet? Good!


User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

Forgive the ignorance Alpha, but what is Tovarich?

Whatever the heck it is, I like it...Sure is pissing off these two Anti-American luns.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1348 times:

Now, now, boys, settle down.

Roy, the quote you make so boldly applies to U.S. funds from U.S. taxpayers, and if you really believe that the U.S. has only spent $366 million (apart from military) since last october, you probably also believe in the tooth fairy. In any case, I think it is inaccurate, as many projects are being funded through other vehicles, like the military, and that many of the ongoing projects (about 500 of them) have not been included, in a MichaelMoorish omission.

Charles


User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

ANYWAY back to topic....

One question about the bold text:

>>"Thus far, according to the report, nothing from the package has been spent on construction, health care, sanitation and water projects. More money has been spent on administration than all projects related to education, human rights, democracy and governance. "<<

Am I to understand that more money went into the Iraqi government than anything else? Wouldn't that be one of the priorities anyway? What is a working government in a country without a working government? It is nice to have power and plumbing, I think some type of order is just as necessary, don't you? Technically once they have 'ordered themselves', then they can decide how to distribute oil funds to their remaining sectors.

Edit: Cfalk answered my question regarding cash depletion.  Big grin

[Edited 2004-07-18 08:02:24]


The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1332 times:

Also the term administration covers a lot of ground..

And yet, L-188, you still think this war is some great, noble thing.

Don't put words in my mouth, or thoughts in my head that aren't there, Alpha1.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1314 times:

Russophile:
Russian is not exactly an international language. Not knowing it does not point out miseducation. That hurts you russian ego, but hey : tough.


S tovarishcheskim privetom.



2 things are endless: ignorance and space
User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

Russian is not exactly an international language. Not knowing it does not point out miseducation. That hurts you russian ego, but hey : tough.

First thing, I'm not Russian.

But exactly. Russian isn't an international language in the same vein as English. But if you are going to try to use the language to try and be a smart arse, at least get it right, because otherwise you look like a complete tool! A la above.

TOVARICH TOVARICH TOVARICH TOVARICH TOVARICH

Are you getting pissed off yet? Good!


Not at all. I'm not the one who looks like a VANKA VANKA VANKA VANKA VANKA

Are you totally clueless yet? Good!

*I am sure you will be wondering what is a Vanka. Have a look in your folklore books, and see who Vanka typically was.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1280 times:

Don't put words in my mouth, or thoughts in my head that aren't there, Alpha1.

No, you've just defended and apologized for this president at every turn concerning this conflict, that's all. Butdon't put words in your mouth. Right.

And Russophile, you're making an awful big stink because someone spells something different that you do, tovarich. And no, I'm not going to change the spelling I've seen for years, just to please you. If you don't like it, tough cookies.


User currently offlineBushcheney2004 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

The people that died in this war are far less than the number of people that would have died in the very near future from Saddam Hussein's torture or perhaps another terrorist attack. If we would not have done anything, who knows what kind of an attack they could have made on Americans by now. I understand that every human life is important, but we have to defend ourselves and plan for the future.

User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1257 times:

criminal politicians like GWB build their careers by first creating a climate of fear, using that fear to polarie entire communities and then exploiting the polarizaation for political benefit.

Bushcheney2004 shows the typical brainwashed mentality. Unfortunate that most Americans dont see how GWB is destroyng the very idea of America. A country that once led the world in the fight against foreign rule is today itself on an imperial pursuit. The biggest casualty is freedom.

-Roy


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

How true Roy.... what we need is higher taxes, bigger government, more welfare, less choice, socialized healthcare, bigger unions, a weaker military, and the United Nations making all our foreign policy decisions right?

How could we all be so blind....?


User currently offlineDan-air From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1234 times:

How true Roy.... what we need is higher taxes, bigger government, more welfare, less choice, socialized healthcare, bigger unions, a weaker military, and the United Nations making all our foreign policy decisions right?

Do you actually believe this stuff? Do you have anything to back it up? Let's take your silly rant apart:


  1. Higher taxes.
  2. Believe it or not, the military is funded by [b]taxes[/b]. Interstate highways are funded by [b]taxes[/b]. The FAA is funded by [b]taxes[/b]. The US has a [b]7 Trillion debt[/b]. How do you propose to pay it? Lower taxes????
  3. Bigger government. Turns out the government has grown far more under [b]Bush[/b] than [b]Clinton[/b]

  4. More welfareWhat? Who is getting all this welfare? How would it be increased with Kerry as president, with Republicans having control of the house and potentially the senate also?

  5. Bigger unions. Again - where do you come up with this stuff? How on earth can a president influence the size of unions?

  6. a weaker militray
  7. . The US started downsizing the military during the Bush 41 administration - the "peace dividend" after the breakup of the Soviet Union. That said, we still have enough nuclear weapons to blow up the entire planet up - 200 times over.
  8. UN making all our foreign policy decisions. Hey Rambo - do you get it yet? In order to police the many dangerous nations we need a coalition of countries. Or you think the US should do it all alone? Half of the US Army is currently in Iraq, and will be there for a significant period of time. What happens after we've deployed the other half?. The UN and Nato is the mechanism by which we establish a coalition.





User currently offlineDavid b. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

The people that died in this war are far less than the number of people that would have died in the very near future from Saddam Hussein's torture or perhaps another terrorist attack. If we would not have done anything, who knows what kind of an attack they could have made on Americans by now. I understand that every human life is important, but we have to defend ourselves and plan for the future.

 Big grin



Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
25 Rjpieces : criminal politicians like GWB build their careers by first creating a climate of fear, using that fear to polarie entire communities and then exploiti
26 JeffM : "The US has a [b]7 Trillion debt[/b]. How do you propose to pay it? Lower taxes????" YES! See...you catch on fast... Want more income from taxes? Let
27 Go Canada! : Imperial Pursuits? Well If your calling the USA imperialist then so is India for keeping Kashmir and having wars over it.
28 Post contains images Bushcheney2004 : Jeff, you are absolutely right
29 Sjc>sfo : Keeping on topic... The profits from oil sales certainly aren't going into medicare, or Head Start, or any other domestic U.S. program. They going tow
30 Dan-air : Want more income from taxes? Let people buy more. Want people to buy more? Let them keep more of the money they work for... I see - so if we eliminate
31 Bushcheney2004 : Hey Dan-Air, you are putting words into Jeff's mouth. He said let people keep more and he did not say let them keep everything. And it is a proven fac
32 Dan-air : If it is a "proven fact" - what "fact" would that be? OK you guys, I'll give you a clue: A fact is a statement that proves a point by offering evidenc
33 Post contains images JeffM : " see - so if we eliminate taxes altogether we'd have a fabulous military and everyone would be rich - simply because they "buy stuff"." Sure, just tw
34 Post contains images Dan-air : Jeff: your childish "twisted liberal logic" just doesn't cut the mustard. Are you capable of answering a question? How is that convoluted? I challenge
35 Bushcheney2004 : Dan-air, are you denying that you are a liberal?
36 Diamond : BushCheney2004 has an alter-ego on this site. Anyone care to guess who it is?
37 Dan-air : BushCheney: Denying being a liberal? What does my being a liberal or otherwise have to do with anything? Are you guys so blinkered that everything has
38 Bushcheney2004 : Dan-air, you just made a label by saying "you guys". I was the only one who you were referring to. In any case, who said I was a liberal? that's why I
39 Dan-air : BushCheney: "you guys" OK, guilty as charged. And I am a liberal. Now help JeffM back up his laundry-list of assertions regarding a Kerry presidency,
40 Bushcheney2004 : The United States being the largest worldpower, can help out the people of the nation of Iraq and free them from an evil dictator. Also, Saddam Hussei
41 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Also, Saddam Hussein may not have been a threat, but many people in his country who are terrorists are. ROTFL. Son, there's more terrorists there now,
42 Post contains images Bushcheney2004 : Yeah right. It is a lot better now.
43 Alpha 1 : In one way, it has to be, Bush PR Kid, but in another, we've opened up a wave of terrorism against Iraqi's and ourselves. This war, which your hero sa
44 Dan-air : The United States being the largest worldpower, can help out the people of the nation of Iraq and free them from an evil dictator. That is not the sta
45 Bushcheney2004 : The WMD's were not proven wrong, they just have not yet been proven right YET.
46 Schoenorama : Bushcheny2000: "The United States being the largest worldpower, can help out the people of the nation of Iraq and free them from an evil dictator." Th
47 Alpha 1 : The WMD's were not proven wrong, they just have not yet been proven right YET. Keep dreaming, PR boy. They won't be found, because, as several reports
48 Post contains images Jutes85 : Forgive the ignorance Alpha, but what is Tovarich? Comrade How true Roy.... what we need is higher taxes, bigger government, more welfare, less choice
49 Dahawaiian : Here we go again, oh wait, I am already too late.
50 Mir : Russophile: Russian isn't an international language in the same vein as English. But if you are going to try to use the language to try and be a smart
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