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Palestinians On Verge Of Collaspe....  
User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1459 times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3904083.stm

A series of emergency talks are being held to resolve a political crisis triggered by the resignation offer by Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei.
Mr Qurei's resignation was sparked by a spate of kidnappings in the Gaza Strip.

Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat met Mr Qurei for several hours on Sunday to reject the move again, following the prime minister's insistence to go.

Mr Qurei wants Mr Arafat to grant him more powers to deal with the worsening security situation.

A state of emergency remains in force in Gaza.

'Non-existent'

The militants said they carried out Friday's kidnappings - including that of a senior police chief and four French aid workers - to protest against corruption within the Palestinian Authority and lack of reform of security services.

Mr Qurei described the security situation in Gaza as "a real disaster, a real catastrophe, and an unprecedented lawlessness" - and tendered his resignation and that of his government.

Mr Arafat responded by announcing an overhaul of security - cutting to three the number of services from eight - a long-standing demand of international mediators.

But the appointment of his nephew, Musa Arafat, as public security chief sparked off protests by hundreds of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip on Saturday night.


2 Prime Ministers resigning in under two years? serious questions have got to be asked.



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8767 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

"2 Prime Ministers resigning in under two years? serious questions have got to be asked."

I agree that this smells fishy, but don't pull the trigger that fast - same thing happened a lot in Italy before Berlusconi gained almost total control of everything related to power.

Italians, I love your country and this is only an example.  Smile



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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5743 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

2 Prime Ministers resigning in under two years? serious questions have got to be asked.

Sure. But it definitely answers the question who's really calling the shots there!


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29838 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Actually Go Canada might be correct...

Looks like somebody torched the Palastinian Authorities headquarters this morning.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20040718_549.html



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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5743 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

The militants said they carried out Friday's kidnappings - including that of a senior police chief and four French aid workers - to protest against corruption within the Palestinian Authority and lack of reform of security services.

It's a speculation, but this case basically supports the theory of Barbara Victor in her book Army of Roses about the role of terrorism/suicide bombings in their society and clearly shows how terrorism is deep rooted within Palestinian society and probably considered the only way to achieve things. To solve a domestic issue, they don't think of anything better than to kidnap a foreign nationals - even those trying to help them!


Also it would be interesting to have the situation explained by those, who always excused the lack of will of Palest. Authority to deal with Hamas, Al-Aqsa brigades by the fact that Arafat has no powers and this 'poor' guy is trapped by IDF in Ramallah without any means to influence the events and society in Palestine. Yet, it appears that Arafat is in fact too powerful even by their local standards and that he could have dealt with the terrorists - but then it wouldn't be Arafat  Acting devilish - a Nobel prize winning terrorist himself!


[Edited 2004-07-18 17:08:07]

User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

Well this is in anticipation of Israel's Gaza Pullout. It will be incredibly interesting to see who takes power there when Israel leaves. Several of us have asked Horus and BA but they haven't answered yet. Will militants take over and continue to attack Israel, or will they finally start building their country? Of course whatever happens Israel will be blamed.

"Arafat now is at a crossroads. Either he makes a revolution inside his authority or the Palestinian people will make a revolution against him," said Ahmed Jamous, a student at Ramallah's Bir Zeit University. "The people want elections and good government, not to be ruled by a group of corrupt thieves."

Methinks it will be the latter.


User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1389 times:

Palestinians deserve full democracy, not being ruled by terror groups.


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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

It will be incredibly interesting to see who takes power there when Israel leaves. Several of us have asked Horus and BA but they haven't answered yet.

Well, have you ever considered that their respective crystal balls might not be working? Or do you now who'll be running the US in a few years? Who'll be running Israel? Iraq? Afghanistan? Any other country?  Insane


I can only hope that the Palestinians will get their act together - and soon: they simply cannot afford to go on blaming everything on others... while the "others" cannot say that whatever happens in the Palestinian territories is none of their fault, the Palestinians are at least as much, if not much more, to blame.

Constantly pointing at other people and saying "it's their fault" has never helped anybody - and it never will.

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2262 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1369 times:

Both Palestinian PMs found it impossible to work and to be productive while being clenched among several militant groups fighting for the influence in the future Palestine. Israel was not too supportive for them as well. It seems (like it has been predicted before) that after Israel's retreat GS will sink into anarchy. Now, what can be done ? Obviously, further Israeli influence is not acceptable. However Egyptian authorities have a direct interest since Egypt is the other PA neighbor. They already have been involved on a certain level before. Egypt (and Jordan in the WB case) share Israel's concern in this situation, and it seems that Egyptian policing forces may step into action to maintain order and to train PA police. In fact Israel and Egypt have recently made changes in the Egypt-Israel peace accord to allow Egyptian forces to step into Sinai peninsula and GS (previously a demilitarized zone) for that purpose.


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User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1354 times:

Egypt is going to have to play a role, problem is that some palestinian groups will then fight the egyptians in the same way they did the jordains.

What nobody seems to realise is that Hamas and their co-horts what to establish a radical islamic dictatorship over the whole of Israel/Palestine, kicking out of the Jews and seeing to it that the poor palestinians do not get democracy nor freedom.



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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

GoCanada is correct, but not complete. Those radicals want to turn the entire middle east and north Africa into a fundamentalist state similar to Iran under the Ayatollahs running from Algeria in the west to Iran in the east and from Iran in the north to Chad and Sudan in the south.

Such a country would not only be a massive threat to world security but also have fundamentalist muslim terrorists hold 75% or more of the worlds oil reserves thereby holding the entire world economy hostage.
The 1970s oil crisis will be nothing in comparison.



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User currently offlineQr332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1308 times:

. Those radicals want to turn the entire middle east and north Africa into a fundamentalist state similar to Iran under the Ayatollahs running from Algeria in the west to Iran in the east and from Iran in the north to Chad and Sudan in the south.

I see Jwentings Crystal Ball is working. Seems hes psychic too. You uncovered us, good boy. Arabs plan is to turn the entire world into one big state where we can control people minds. Thats it! HELLO! These aren't Al Qaeda, there very different, they even condemn them! These people are fighting for their counrty only, nobody else. Have they ever done anything outside of Israel/Palestine?!


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16370 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

Free elections in Palestine for a new PA leader and Prime Minister would solve this crisis.




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User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1266 times:

"These aren't Al Qaeda, there very different, they even condemn them! These people are fighting for their counrty only, nobody else. Have they ever done anything outside of Israel/Palestine?!"

Im sorry, theres a puddle where my slides have spilt!

*How about Palestinian terrorists killing people on cruise ships or at olympic games for a start?
*Are you seriously suggesting that Hamas Condemmed Al-Queda?
*You should read up on hamas, read Khaled Hroub, Hamas Political Thought and Practice ( Institute for Palestine Studies 2000) or Muslim Palestine:the ideology of Hamas by Andrea Nusse (Harwood Academic 1998).

Hamas want a whole muslim palestine with no Jews what so ever.



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