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Oh, Sorry... I Meant IraN  
User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

President Bush said Monday the United States is exploring whether Iran had any role in the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, a scenario discounted by the CIA.

"We're digging into the facts to see if there was one," Bush said in an Oval Office photo opportunity. Bush noted that acting CIA Director John McLaughlin has said that there was no direct connection between Iran and Sept. 11.

"We will continue to look and see if the Iranians were involved," Bush said. "I have long expressed my concerns about Iran. After all it's a totalitarian society where people are not allowed to exercise their rights as human beings."


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040719/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bush_iran_3

It's only one letter... anyone could have made the mistake... Will this man EVER stop? He's really losing his shit.

 Insane  Insane  Insane  Insane

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User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

"Well, I *KNEW* it began with an 'I' though.." He lost his shit a long time ago..

The next thing you know, they'll have WMD and be an eminent threat to the US.. YES!!! Another WAR!!.. We need those votes come November!..

 Insane



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

"After all it's a totalitarian society where people are not allowed to exercise their rights as human beings."

I see some major shit hitting the fan if Bushy-Boi gets four more years. That sounds just like a reason for "liberating" that poor people; and who knows, maybe they have a couple of leftover mustard gas-filled shells from the Iran-Iraq war hidden somewhere in that big-ass desert. I mean they sure got their hands on some. Oh, and lest we forget - what about the "nuculear" weapons programme?

After retaliating for "He wanted to kill my daddy!!" he might be up for retaliating for the hostage crisis.

"Will this man EVER stop?"

I fear not - if he's re-elected.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17489 posts, RR: 45
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

"what about the "nuculear" "

It's actually a proper pronunciation of the word...

http://www.merriamwebster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=nuclear



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1562 times:

Fine, one for GWB. Important one, I might add.  Laugh out loud


Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1542 times:

Lets spread that one out for all to see, shall we?

Main Entry: nu·cle·ar
Pronunciation: 'nü-klE-&r, 'nyü-, ÷-ky&-l&r
Function: adjective
1 : of, relating to, or constituting a nucleus
2 a : of or relating to the atomic nucleus b : used in or produced by a nuclear reaction (as fission) c (1) : being a weapon whose destructive power derives from an uncontrolled nuclear reaction (2) : of, produced by, or involving nuclear weapons (3) : armed with nuclear weapons d : of, relating to, or powered by nuclear energy
usage Though disapproved of by many, pronunciations ending in -ky&-l&r have been found in widespread use among educated speakers including scientists, lawyers, professors, congressmen, U.S. cabinet members, and at least one U.S. president and one vice president. While most common in the U.S., these pronunciations have also been heard from British and Canadian speakers.


As far as Iran is concerned, let's not forget that they were the reason that the Western powers, including the U.S. and France, I might add, helped Saddam in the early 80s. Just because they have kept a low profile over the last few years does not mean that they have turned into saints.

Charles

[Edited 2004-07-20 00:30:56]

User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

The Iranians are saying about now "Bring it on!".

It would be funny to see Bush try to do something. He's not going up against a rag tag army like in Afghanistan. And he's not going up against an army which has basically rotted away due to a decade of sanctions.

I'm just waiting for the day that the Labor Party is elected into office, and then wait for the announcement that Bush is now investigating possible Australian links to 11 September 2001.



User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1514 times:

Here we go for another round. Soon we'll hear that Iran had WMD with an imminent threat to the United States. The GOP will shore up their religious base with people like Ann Coulter screaming that we should "take their oil and convert them to Christianity." Meanwhile, Bin Laden will still be on the loose.


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

Who is Ann Coulter?


Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1469 times:

The next thing you know, they'll have WMD and be an eminent threat to the US.. YES!!! Another WAR!!.. We need those votes come November

Iran is very close to becoming a bigger threat than Iraq ever was.Europe's use of 'soft power' in Iran doesn't seem to be producing any results given recent discovers of Iran's lies.



Who is Ann Coulter?

Somebody who makes B757300 look liberal Big grin


User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1459 times:

Here comes the Draft ..... Or maybe Dubya can extend the duty of the guard for another couple of years...


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1452 times:

"Iran is very close to becoming a bigger threat than Iraq ever was.Europe's use of 'soft power' in Iran doesn't seem to be producing any results given recent discovers of Iran's lies."

I really hope the EU will soon get a bit more active in regard to foreign policy. Maybe the constitution will, one day, become effective and there'll be a way for the EU to make a difference.

As for Iran itself, I think us Westerners shouldn't mess too much with that country - they're in trouble, but the ruling elite (read: religious fanatics) won't accept any deal that would make them appear weak - even though the mostly young population is slowly drifting away from things in one apparently endless intoxication. Well, what would one expect from young people who can't have any fun without being whipped.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineEspion007 From Denmark, joined Dec 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

Here comes the Draft ..... Or maybe Dubya can extend the duty of the guard for another couple of years...

Canada here i come! Big grin

Honestly there will be a parade in the streets of my town if bush goes.



Snakes on a Plane!
User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

Who is Ann Coulter?

Ann Coulter is this psycho super ultra-hardcore right wing woman who made a bunch of money whining about liberals being whiny traitors. Shes also a nutty religious whackjob. She is known to have said before Iraq, "Take their oil and convert them to Christianity."



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

She is known to have said before Iraq, "Take their oil and convert them to Christianity."

Actually, her exact words were "This is no time to be precious about locating the exact individuals directly involved in this particular terrorist attack.... We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity".

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2001/091301.htm


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1401 times:

Sorry but President Bush never said Saddam was involved in September 11th. He said he had ties to terrorism including groups linked to Al-Qaeda as well as members of Al-Qaeda. (Ansar Al-Islam, the group led by al-Zarqawi, has ties to Al-Qaeda and was given protection by Saddam years before the war and September 11th.)

Oh and remember, President Bush said that Iran, Iraq, and North Korea were the "Axis of Evil" -the three primary state sponsors of terrorism throughout the world.



"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1381 times:

Pack your bags 757300 your on you way to Iran dude .... HAHAHAHA


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineKellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 693 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1377 times:

As far as Iran is concerned, the Iranians themselves hate their government.

The views of some on here remind me of the "human shields" who went to Iraq to protect the dictatorship there. Then when they got there, most of them left when they got a real look at what the government was like in Iraq.



User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1374 times:

And how do you know that Kellmark ??? Lots of people in the US sure do hate their own government too ....


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1369 times:

President Bush never said Saddam was involved in September 11th

Vice-President Cheney and SecDef Rumsfeld though have repeatedly said that.

Are they lying?

September 14, 2003 - NBC's Meet The Press - VP Cheney : "Iraq was the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9/11".

October 1, 2002 - SecDef Rumsfeld interview : "There is bulletproof evidence of close ties between Saddam Hussein and the Al Qaeda members who attacked us on September 11".



User currently offlineYhmfan From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 607 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1354 times:

The Iranians are saying about now "Bring it on!".

It would be funny to see Bush try to do something. He's not going up against a rag tag army like in Afghanistan. And he's not going up against an army which has basically rotted away due to a decade of sanctions.


I agree.

Do not under estimate Iran. In world ranking of Gross Domestic Product Iran is ranked #19 compared to Iraq at #66 (Afghanistan does not even show)
Economically, Iran is about 9 times the size of Iraq.

(source : http://www.photius.com/rankings/gdp_2003_0.html

All that money buys a lot of weapons and a lot of training for the army.

As far as Iran is concerned, the Iranians themselves hate their government
It is true that most of the "educated" Iranians hate the government. Sadly, they are in the minority. The majority will follow the word of the mullahs unquestionably. They are the ones that form the "human waves" that Saddam Hussein's army faced in the Iran-Iraq war.
A US invasion of an Iran would be catastrophic for all concerned.


[Edited 2004-07-20 05:01:48]

[Edited 2004-07-20 05:02:38]


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User currently offlineKellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 693 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1324 times:

DC10guy. The difference is that in the US you can hate the government and not get put in jail for it, or have your family forced to pay for the bullets for your execution. And you can demonstrate against it as well as demonstrate for it. Try demonstrating against the government in Iran.

If you want to defend the present Iranian government and try to make the US government its equivalent, you are simply flat out blind to the real situation.

In fact, in America, some people are attacking those that are trying to defend same people. Instead of attacking those who are attacking the way of life and freedoms that we enjoy. If it were up to them the Taliban and Saddam would still be in power, able to threaten us and the rest of the world.

Some people seem to think that because we liberated Iraq, that we are an imperialist power and that we somehow want something for ourselves.

We have pulled our troops out of more countries than most people imagine. Look at Iwo Jima. 10,000 US casualties. Who owns it today? The Japanese.

And of course, we are not occupying France, even though it cost us tens of thousands of dead to liberate them from the Nazis.

The Germans don't want us to leave there. The South Koreans don't want us to leave there, even though we would love to. It costs us billions every year.

The bottom line is that if 9/11 had never happened, where over 3,000 innocent people were killed in one blow, then Afganistan and Iraq would never have happened. But now that they have, it is a good thing that those dictatorships have been eliminated from the world.


User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1317 times:

Good points Kellmark, Its funny that when people paint this glorious picture of how great America is they forget about Vietnam. Greed is what motivates this great country. That's all. Oil greed is why we are in Iraq. All the excuses we come up with for doing what we do are sad really.


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

We are NOT invading another country.

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1308 times:

We are NOT invading another country.

Give George Bush another 4 years, and we will have another conflict somehwree else. I'm convinced of that. And seeing he has troops on either side of Iran, it makes an interesting scenario, doesn't it.


25 Dc10guy : Pack your bags MD90, Your going to get to fight for Dubyas oil !!! Ignore the facts if you must ... But the draft is coming back.
26 BN747 : Not only that.... 4 more years will see Syria brought up on charges and justified to bombed as well. But as for Iran, where over 65 percent of the cou
27 Kellmark : DC10guy. I don't forget Vietnam. We were right to fight that war, but not right to lose it. Communism has been such a success. Over one hundred millio
28 JAL777 : Pack your bags MD90, Your going to get to fight for Dubyas oil !!! Ignore the facts if you must ... But the draft is coming back. Please present me th
29 B757300 : Please present me these "facts" because I sure as hell would love to see them. He doesn't have any as usual unless of course he wants to cite the two
30 Vafi88 : He doesn't have any as usual Yep, sure sounds like just about everything else he does... no facts.
31 Dc10guy : Kellmark, Your unquestioning patriotism shines thru dude. I just can't see how anyone would believe that George W would have invaded Iraq if they didn
32 Vafi88 : All of these were intended to help save Muslims from being killed or starved or abused, many by their own people Oh... well that's a shit argument, an
33 Kellmark : DC10Guy. I don't think you get it. First of all, being a patriot is a very good thing, but only if it is for the right reasons. I certainly do not apo
34 Post contains images MD-90 : Well, if I was drafted, they'd probably place me with my strengths and I'd wind up in one of the military bands. Preferably the USMC Band or the Herit
35 Post contains links and images Mir : Oh... well that's a shit argument, and it's last on the list W. made before attacking Iraq Along that same line: From Paul Wolfowitz in an interview,
36 Banco : Tell me something: A lot of people are saying about how Iran is next on the list, and that if Bush is elected then a war against Iran is at least poss
37 Post contains images Aloges : Banco, you seem to forget that GWB is a saint and everything he does is basically the work of the Lord, so why even bother with those stupid other nat
38 Donder10 : Wouldn't a military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities(a la Iraq) be a better bet?
39 Mir : A lot of people are saying about how Iran is next on the list, and that if Bush is elected then a war against Iran is at least possible. Would he be a
40 TWISTEDWHISPER : Reading about stuff like this is getting really REALLY dull... Why don't GWB start war on every single country that has ever supported a terrorist in
41 Delta767300ER : I have a feeling that Israel would bomb Iran before the United States do. -Delta767300ER
42 JGPH1A : Re: Hundreds of millions more fled those regimes (and are continuing to flee today). Hundreds of millions ? Er, no - hundreds of thousands maybe. And
43 Iakobos : IMO and I did not build it up last night, Iran is the perfect and logic name on the agenda. It comes out of necessity. There is no (serious) Iranian i
44 Post contains links Qb001 : Kuddo Wellhung, even the NY Times agrees with you! Last year, Ali G asked James Baker III, the Bush I secretary of state, if it was wise for Iraq and
45 Kellmark : The New York Times. Right. They are so unbiased. Nothing but the truth out of them.
46 Jaysit : Yeah, lets send troops to Iran. But we have no troops left. They're too busy finding empty shells in Iraq and making prison porno. However, I have a g
47 Kellmark : My my. aren't we getting testy and personal to boot. That's right, when you can't find a good reason to support the terrorists who want to kill you, a
48 Jaysit : "When the nuclear bomb that they smuggle in goes off in your town, you will blame Bush again." Who smuggles? Ira. N? or Ira. Q? Or is it just some blo
49 An-225 : Hell, we should just send our troops everywhere. That way nobody will attack us. Oh, wait. Alex.
50 Russophile : Americans, by and large, are totally oblivious to the feelings of Iranians. As far as Americans are concerned, if the Iranians do not like the religio
51 Kellmark : Jaysit. What is with your fantasies about blow up girlfriends? You sound a little frustrated. And teenagers. What's that all about? And all of this ta
52 Jaysit : "It sounds like the real problem here is that you might be afraid of being forced to do that yourself. God forbid that you might have to defend your c
53 Kellmark : Jaysit. You are doing a little better. But it seems you still have a problem with freedom of speech. The deal is, you get to have your opinion. If you
54 Jaysit : "But it seems you still have a problem with freedom of speech. If you don't like the "fat cats" or whatever, fine. But just because you don't agree wi
55 Kellmark : Jaysit. You are correct. Excellent points. We have a terribly corrupt system where people pay money to politicians everyday to influence them. And the
56 GDB : Know what murals are increasingly common in Tehran? Paintings, based on the photos from Abu Garib. True that most young Iranians may dislike the mulla
57 MartinairYYZ : Sorry but President Bush never said Saddam was involved in September 11th. He said he had ties to terrorism including groups linked to Al-Qaeda as wel
58 Kellmark : Another anti-Bush Canadian. How unusual. I guess that the mighty Canadian Defense Forces will protect the world. Again the oil thing. That's worn out.
59 Post contains images Lehpron : >> "Would he [GWB] be able to get away with that? Seriously, I mean? Would public opinion tolerate it in the US? Especially after the intelligence for
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