Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19699 posts, RR: 56 Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1281 times:
There are times when I can't help but sit back and wonder if these kind of things are really happening, or is it just a bad dream. This is one of them.
The magazine quoted an Army spokeswoman as saying, “the surgeons have to have someone to practice on.” (emphasis mine)
Enough said. This is absolutely despicable.
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USAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1806 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1227 times:
If the military surgeons need something to practice on, maybe they could help out at hosiptals domestically and perform free surgery to those who can't afford it. No, that's too logical and would actually help people in our own country, we can't do that while Bush is in office.
I fail to see how plastic surgery skills will help battlefield operations. "Bad news, we can't fix your wound, but good news - we can bump you up to a double D!"
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1127 times:
And actually USAIRWAYS321 doesn't realize that but military doctors allready do that. Both in inner city hospitals that are having trouble recruiting new doctors but at military/VA/BIA hospitals as well.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
USAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1806 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1120 times:
And actually L-188 makes stupid assumptions. I never said that they didn't do it, I simply said that they should do more of it instead of giving free boob jobs. Just because someone doesn't express certain knowledge doesn't mean they don't have it!
I'm terribly sorry I didn't demonstrate everything that I know on the topic, and that I wasn't clear enough that when I said "we can't do that while Bush is in office," I meant we couldn't add to our existing domestic help programs while he's in office. Geez...
USAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1806 posts, RR: 10 Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1112 times:
No, I can see it actually making the spam worse: "Join the Army today and increase your size by 5 inches!"
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1104 times:
And actually L-188 makes stupid assumptions. I never said that they didn't do it, I simply said that they should do more of it instead of giving free boob jobs
Really? Lets look at your actual quote.
If the military surgeons need something to practice on, maybe they could help out at hosiptals domestically and perform free surgery to those who can't afford it. No, that's too logical and would actually help people in our own country, we can't do that while Bush is in office.
Seems to me that your 17-18 year old mind is pretty definate.
I fail to see how plastic surgery skills will help battlefield operations. "Bad news, we can't fix your wound, but good news - we can bump you up to a double D!"
Plastic surgury and the use of it, goes way way beyond, the hollywood boob or nose jobs. There are some very legitimate uses for it.......especially in the military.
Actually repairing severe cosmetic wounds is very critical, and is why so many wounded troops comming out of Iraq get long stays at stateside hospitals. They are having damage repaired, faces and limbs rebuilt...ect...ect..ect.
No cosmetic surgury is not appropriate for Hawkeye and BJ at the 4077, where the immediate concern is pt survival, but as the pt heals, it becomes very critical for quality of life.
A good non-military example, is when Tina Turner had her nose job, although she did have it "altered" to be more attractive in her mind, the basis for the plastic surgury was to repair the scar tissue that had formed and was causing her problems breathing. Of course, that scar tissue was a direct result of blunt trama injuries at the hands of Ike Turner, which in a way you could argue was simular to combat blunt for wounds.
That surgury was plastic surgury, but there was a very real medical basis behind it.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
USAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1806 posts, RR: 10 Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1101 times:
Assume what you like, but that makes you the stupid one instead of me. I simply said that using these surgeons mentioned in the story for plastic surgery, (and yes, believe it or not, I know that plastic surgery goes beyond breast enhancement, but that was specifically mentioned in the article...and it makes my point, so I like it) we should use them for free healthcare for the poor in addition to the current similar services.
Vafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 19 Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1097 times:
Plastic surgury and the use of it, goes way way beyond, the hollywood boob or nose jobs. There are some very legitimate uses for it.......especially in the military.
Like getting rid of those pesky love-handles or make those breasts seem perkier than ever before!
I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
ATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2035 posts, RR: 41 Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1086 times:
Yeah I give credit to alot of Dr's in the Military, but I agree with USAIRWAYS321 that that at least the reservists who arent active in the med field outside the hospital could "keep current" by using military time or something of teh sort to help out the underpriviliged. And I wouldnt jumpt o making any assumptions or anything, They dont give implants in the Air Force...
and as a person who has benefitted greatly from surgeons (OMFS and Plastic, research N94820 December 8th, 2004 Butler PA, that was me) I give support to any plastic surgeon. Good show OMFS @ AGH, Pittsburgh!
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L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1079 times:
ATCT, I would argue it is 180 the other way.
The reservist doctors are the ones in private practic are the ones that are keeping their skills current, particularly if they are working in a Trama center or such.
It is the active duty ones, that need to be cycled through to keep skills current. There is only so much Advil they can prescribe for shin splints before surgical skills start to erode.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13336 posts, RR: 64 Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1041 times:
The Royal Army Medical Corps made huge progress back in WW2, through giving badly burned fighter pilots a new face (the main reason those flight crews wore their leather helmets, long clothes, goggles, oxygen masks and gloves even at low altitudes in hot weather was to prevent their skin from coming into contact with flames after a hit in the engine.
NWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1010 times:
No amount of plastic surgery could make Lynndie England attractive...
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