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Protest Groups Demand Visibility At DNC Next Week  
User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 959 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 9 months 13 hours ago) and read 1049 times:

From CNN:

Amid final preparations for the Democratic National Convention, security officials are preparing to lock down a huge area of Boston. But groups planning protests say the right to free speech has been sacrificed to the need for security. "We think the the city of Boston has gone way overboard in the name of security," a protest leader said.

Actually kind of funny once you think about it. When you think about who will be protesting (Republicans, Bush Supporters, etc.) and you think about thier political standing, especially with the Patriot Act, and how some of them want to postpone elections if there is a terrorist attack (*MAJOR* constitutional violation) it is funny that they are complaining. I suppose, well, they might think like this:

Since it doesn't effect us, we're fine with it, wait a minute, these security efforts will effect us? No, No, can't have that.

How much you want to bet that when it happens in New York for the RNC next month, they will be all fine with it?


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User currently offlineRen41 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 13 hours ago) and read 1039 times:

What the article didn't mention is that the protest area is a small caged area with barbed-wire fences and netting a few blocks away from the FleetCenter.
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The security for this event will be horrible for the city of Boston. 40 miles or roads around the North End of Boston will be shut down. They are shutting down a 6 mile stretch of highway(the busiest in MA) everyday just before rush-hour at 4PM. Going from Somerville to downtown Boston will take 50-70 minutes, it's normally a 10 minute drive. I think I'll be sticking to the suburbs this week...

R41


User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29706 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 12 hours ago) and read 1030 times:

We think the the city of Boston has gone way overboard in the name of security," a protest leader said.

Sorry but they pissed that away at the WTO conference in Seattle a couple of years ago.



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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 12 hours ago) and read 1020 times:

Both NYC and Beantown will be war zones, so to speak, during the conventions. L-188 is right, these protest groups, going to either convention, were done in by events in Seattle a few years back, and the obvious worry is that there aren't just the usual anarchists in the crowds, but trained terrorists, who could turn what happened at the '68 DNC in Chicago into a major terrorists attack. No one wants that.

The goal is to keep the President and Mr. Kerry safe, and the conventions safe. That's the over-riding concern, not if some nut group wants it's 15 minutes of fame.


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 1008 times:

Remember Boston is Kerry's hometown, he will do anything to gag the opposition.
Throwing the opposition in a cage is just what will happen to the everyone who opposes him if the communist wins the election...



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User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2727 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 1002 times:

" ... if the communist wins ... "

Shall we play 'spot the drama queen' in this thread ?



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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21102 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 7 hours ago) and read 994 times:

Remember Boston is Kerry's hometown, he will do anything to gag the opposition.

And just like New York is Bush's hometown, eh?



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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 hour ago) and read 974 times:

Remember Boston is Kerry's hometown, he will do anything to gag the opposition.

Right, and Bloomberg won't do the same thing in NYC in September?

And besides, it isn't about gagging, from either side. There is a real fear of more than just protesting here, and you know OBL would love to screw up the elections by hitting one of the candidates.

But then again, Jwenting, you feel Kerry is a triator, so why am I not surprised that you only pick on him?


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16944 posts, RR: 48
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 964 times:

"And just like New York is Bush's hometown, eh?"

Huh?



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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 950 times:

I don't understand why the Republicans here are in such an uproar? Remember that the secret service is handling security for BOTH the DNC and RNC. So expect the same measures taken by them.


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21102 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 934 times:

Maverick, that didn't come out well, I know  Smile

What I meant to say was:

The opposition is going to get stifled in New York too. Is it because it's Bush's hometown? Of course not, it's because of security. A shame, but that's what the world has come to.

Throwing the opposition in a cage is just what will happen to the everyone who opposes him if the communist wins the election...

Well, since you believe that kind of stuff, could I perhaps interest you in some prime real estate on Jupiter?  Laugh out loud



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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5911 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 925 times:

Sorry, but these are the same people that, when Democratic protesters are protesting over Dubya's socalled "Free-Speech Zones", yells: Get over it!

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 921 times:

I thought the Democrats were just one big motley association of protest groups to begin with? Hence, why would they ban their own?



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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 916 times:

If you all remember the WTO protests in Seattle, then it is necessary for these kinds of measures for both the Republican and Democratic conventions. Not to mention with today's terrorist threats.


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 912 times:

What's the exact dates this things being held again? Im going there on Friday. This doesnt sound very good for the tourist:

"security officials are preparing to lock down a huge area of Boston
 Sad



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 897 times:

Alex - apparently this is the worst time EVER to go to BOS - my bruv lives there, and he has inlaws arriving this week, and its MENTAL. You have to use public transport to get to/from the airport, because all the highways and tunnels are blocked off to private vehicles virtually all day. There isn't a hotel room to be had in a 50 mile radius of Boston, they are expecting something like 750000 additional vistors during the DNC week. So I hope you've booked somewhere. I believe the DNC is on for the whole of this week.

User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29706 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 891 times:

And don't forget all of the cabbies are ticked off at the Mayor because he gave out all of these $12 dollar vouchers to the delegates, but didn't wave the $4.50 Loagan airport fee for the cabbies, and isn't allowing them to pass the charges on to the client.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1090794009250&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 883 times:

"How much you want to bet that when it happens in New York for the RNC next month, they will be all fine with it?"

Who would?
Most of the same protest groups at the DNC convention will be at the GOP convention.

Despite what the anti-free speech mavens on the right screech about, the ACLU - that unpopular free speech torch bearer - holds all those in political power accountable.

I think that the security at these conventions is over the top. If some anti-abortion protester wants to parade around with a poster of an aborted fetus, he/she should be allowed to. The cops can frisk the protesters and let them say their bit.


User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 859 times:

Alex - apparently this is the worst time EVER to go to BOS

I'll end up getting shot down by an F-16. I can tell, my 757 will make it over there from MAN, the transponder will malfunction near the coast and then im a gonner. Sad


Another posibility is my presumed (illegal) drunkeness will get me shot on the streets by some dumb ass security guy.



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 836 times:

Alex - even if the transponder doesn't go phut, now that the NSA know you're coming (they read this forum, you know), I'm sure the F16's will be waiting, fully armed  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Have you booked anywhere to stay when you get to BOS ?


User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 823 times:

Yea, we've had a hotel booked for ages now so that's sorted at least, as are the flights.

However. the transfer from the airport to the hotel, urrrr......walk? lol




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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 824 times:

Take the Metro - you have to catch a bus to the Metro station (doesn't take long), the Metro goes most places downtown (BOS is easy to walk round too). There's a ferry that goes to downtown from the airport as well - depends where you're staying I guess.

User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16944 posts, RR: 48
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 816 times:

Anyone have pictures of la cage aux folles? (The protester cage)


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User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3381 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 805 times:

Jwenting- pull you head out of your ass. "Comrade Bush" has been doing this to protesters for years. If a Kerry administration caged protesters, he'd just be continuing the Buash legacey.


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