Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1816 times:
I don't think he's wimpy, per se. Jim Brown left after dominating the NFL for 9 years, and could have played another 9; Robert Smith was headed for a career of rushing for at least 12,000 yards, and he quite.
It's not easy to simply walk away from the money and the spotlight like this. It takes some guts. I just think all three guys I mentioned were a bit eccentric in one way or another.
Alpha 1, little change of subject here, but how did it go last night? Feeling better now?
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1777 times:
Usairways757, pipe down a little. I'm from Cleveland, so you don't have to tell me anything about Jim Brown. I was talking about their eccentricities, not their football abilities. Both were a big flaky; both were extremely talented; both retired long before they were past their prime. Got it now? Good!
Phxairfan From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 811 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1769 times:
Word is he retired instead of taking a suspension and fine for violating the league's substance abuse policy again.
"Williams told the Herald marijuana tests he failed had a minor influence on his decision, but were only one of many factors. In May, three South Florida newspapers reported that Williams tested positive for marijuana and faced a fine of at least $650,000 for violating the league's substance-abuse policy for a second time since joining the Dolphins. The Palm Beach Post first reported the story on its Web site.
Williams' attorney, Gary Ostrow, said there was no violation, and a ruling on Williams' appeal was pending. But Williams told the Herald he has gotten around drug tests in the past by taking a special liquid players all over the league consume to avoid detection. "
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17444 posts, RR: 49
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1755 times:
The way ESPN News portrayed the story Ricky wanted to smoke pot and travel on lots of adventurous vacations (climbing mountains in Australia was mentioned), he didn't want to have to hide his pot smoking.
They also said that his view is that he was poor once already, and he was just as happy when he was poor as when he became wealthy so if he loses all the money he doesn't care.
My own opinion would be to suck it up for another year or two then retire if that's what you really want to do, for a couple reasons..
Give the Dolphins time to figure out how to rebuild, I feel bad for the situation the Dolphins find themselves in now.
Bank some more cash in order to have enough to maintain your lifestyle for the next 30 years or so.
Finally even if money really meant nothing to Ricky he could be a real "Saint" and donate his entire pay check for his final two seasons to some deserving charities, there are lots of poor youth out there who need support, guidance and a chance to get a decent education.
The few Million a year he makes would have made a difference to someone.
Dl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11454 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
Yeah thats the pot calling the kettle black.....
Well, Ricky did pretty good for me FFL wise two years ago, but he has some issues here last season. He has to go do what he has to do. I am pretty sure the drug brou-ha-ha has something to do with his decision making process, but he really might want to go and be totally free for a while, and he is in a unique position to do this. How many of us would not have taken a year off if we were 27 year old millionaires who were already set for life?
BN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5638 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1731 times:
Both were a big flaky; both were extremely talented; both retired long before they were past their prime.
a bit flaky???? WTF does that mean? (re: Jim Brown)
Wlliams...absolutely, I'm surprised he lasted this long, he just be in it because what else was there to do after college ball. But I never sensed conviction on his part, sure he had a few great games.. but for the most part it seems he was just 'there'..nothing more. Brown played the game with a mad-man's mentality, kicking butts and talking names and in his day he had a lotta guys out to intentionally 'take his head off'.
Williams is the epitome of spoiled rotten athletes where it's really 'all about him'. That is however his perogative... but unless (and I doubt it) that he will go on to a more satifying profession (pot smoking doesn't even rank -- he probably wind up selling it). Smith if I understand it correctly is quite accomplished in the medical field, the guy has a brilliant mind.. when he quit, I think he knew exactly what he was doing (that's another subject).
But Jim Brown flaky??? ...Please shed some light here.
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An-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3952 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1710 times:
You know, I think he did the right thing. If he is not enjoying the game anymore, why should he play? He's set for life with all those millions, now he can do whatever the hell he wants for the rest of it. Life is not football or NFL, believe it or not. Also, if Ricky changes his mind, he can always return. I am sure some NFL team will be happy to take him.
Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
MxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1701 times:
I just read that. What a wimp! He was actually pretty good. I hope this effects the Dolphins season and keeps them out of the playoffs!
This is exactly why I hope just the opposite - that the Dolphins make and go deep into the playoffs - without Ricky (doubtful that it will happen now that our running game just got blown out of the water without much good relief available, but hey, a guy can fantasize!).
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DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
CactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1674 times:
Ricky Williams is a different cat, period. To him football is something small, and at this point in his life, fairly meaningless. He's rather go out, travel the world, smoke some good bud, and ponder philosphical questions. Screw football, fame, and fortune. Instead he's going to walk the Earth, see new places and get into adventures like that dude from "Kung Fu". Ricky recently sold two of his cars (a Lamborghini and some other expensive car) and donated the money to a local school. Its not fair to compare him to Jim Brown, Robert Smith, or even Barry Sanders. Jim Brown dominated the NFL and felt there was nothing left for him to do in the league. I don't think Smith was really interested in football to begin with (he has a new book coming out soon, I want to check it out to see what's going on in this guy's head). Sanders just got tired of playing football. Ricky.....well Ricky is just Ricky. One strange cat.
I don't think he's a pussy for leaving the game. Obviously its not his thing anymore and he wants to move on. He has other things he wants to do with his life. Playing ball isn't everything. Can't hate a guy for doing that. The fact that he up and leaves when his team is getting ready for training camp, after having attended off-season meetings and mini-camps, that's just plain selfish and screwing over your team and teamates.
Tiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1606 times:
I only wish The Colts were still in the same division at the Fish!
The only good thing (OK, one of the good things) about this is that the story of Ricky leaving has taken Kobe and Shaq out of the top of the line up on ESPN SportsCenter for a couple of days. But don't worry, Kobe will be right back up to the front of the news hit parade in a couple of days!
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