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Teresa Heinz - Kerry  
User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1196 times:

This just occured to me. According to her official biography (http://www.hfp.heinz.org/aboutus/teresaheinz_01.html) Mrs. Kerry was born in Mozambique.

Assuming that JFK is elected president, does this make her the first foreign born first lady?



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User currently offlineImonti From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1186 times:

She was born in Mocambique, and she went to The Univeristy of the Witwatersrand. I am a student there, well maybe I shouldnt say that too loudyly after watching the recent video clip of her.

User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1176 times:

I believe the second. I think it was Abigail Adams who was not born in the US.


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1176 times:

And I'm curious, does anyone think, in a tight race, that this won't become an issue?

User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1165 times:

Unforunately, in a tight race, everything becomes and issue besides, well, the issues.  Sad

User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1165 times:

I have finally figured out who this lady reminds me of:

an older, spaced-out yet still authoritarian Air France flight attendant.



Maggs swings, it's a drive deep to left! The Tigers are going to the World Series!!!
User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

It will become an issue.

It doesn't deserve to be an issue, but it will be.

If a Dem EVER made a remark about Laura Bush, the NeoCons would have a field day - saying that it is an example of the Dem's low moral values.

But after they've wrapped themselves up in the flag, and shouted "family values" for 16 years, they seem to think that Hilary, Tipper and Teresa are all fair game. They will lie, imply and insinuate whatever they can to create more doubt and fear (the real core values they hold so dear).

In a strange way, I hope they continue this approach. The 'undecided' will soon see that there is no real substance behind all the rhetoric ... no ideas - just anger and hostility.



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User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1149 times:

"The 'undecided' will soon see that there is no real substance behind all the rhetoric ... no ideas - just anger and hostility."

You are right, which is why all of the Anti-Bush bullshit is going to be the Dems undoing.



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineImonti From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1145 times:

Stretch I have added you to my RR list, for sheer brilliance about that statement, I am not saying she is a bad or good person just that I think how u summed her up was done in such an artful way.

User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

" ... You are right, which is why all of the Anti-Bush bullshit is going to be the Dems undoing ...

Not exactly. Bush & Company demonstrate their mishaps and misjudgements every day in front of the world's press. The "anti-Bush" comments you may hear from the left are about BUSH, they are not about his wife. And they are in response to something Bush has really done or really said ... not something someone assumes about his wife.

And he is an easy target for those comments. The Dems don't have to lie, imply or insinuate ANYTHING - because GWB provides REAL things to criticize every time he speaks.



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User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1120 times:

Diamond - what's the remark that Neocons have made about Teresa? I'm just pointing out an interesting fact.

-76M

Now, if I did want to take a cheap shot at her, I'd repeat the comment I her on the morning drive talk radio program I listen to.

Teresa Heinz was complaining that people were pronouncing her name Theresa (like mother Theresa). She pointed out that her name is Teresa (pronounced like "to raise" [your taxes]).


User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1112 times:

N6376m,

My comment was not about your original post. It was a response to the question asked by Alpha_1 in post #3 above.

Now I have a response for you: When you say, " ... I'm just pointing out an interesting fact ... " you are trying to get us to believe that there was NO PARTISAN REASON for you starting this thread in the first place. That is BS, and you know it.

I hate partisan politics. But what I hate even more are partisans who cannot even be honest about their own one-sided beliefs.

You didn't start this thread because you found ANYTHING about Mrs. Heinz-Kerry 'interesting'. You posted it as a VERY thinly-disguised attempt to start some flames.

The least you could do is be honest about THAT.








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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1109 times:

I hate partisan politics. But what I hate even more are partisans who cannot even be honest about their own one-sided beliefs.

2nd!




User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1069 times:

Diamond,

Whether you believe it or not, I was reading up on her (that's how I came across her biography) and I did find this fact interesting. How many people can say that they knew she was from Mozambique?

If you've read any of my other posts, you'd know that I never hide the fact that I'm political, however, my life need not center around it.

-76M


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1067 times:

Teresa Heinz was complaining that people were pronouncing her name Theresa (like mother Theresa). She pointed out that her name is Teresa (pronounced like "to raise" [your taxes]).

Coming from someone who is usually pretty smart, that was an idiotic statement, N6376m. You're getting more partisan every day. I guess you're not better than B757300, eh?


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 968 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1056 times:

And I'm curious, does anyone think, in a tight race, that this won't become an issue?

Well.. since first lady usually isn't in the line of sucession... I don't think it will be a problem. Then again, when Kerry makes off-shoring an isssue, it never looks good when your wife's corperation dabbed in some decent off-shoring of their own  Big grin


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1042 times:

That she was born in Mozambique is a non-issue.

That she said "shove it" to a reporter SHOULD be an issue. With those 2 words she showed how low-class and unfit for First Lady she is.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1036 times:

That she said "shove it" to a reporter SHOULD be an issue. With those 2 words she showed how low-class and unfit for First Lady she is.

Oh come on...  Insane
Do you honestly think the current first lady never said anything like that before? Heinz was only so unlucky to say it to a reporter.
And damn she isn't the one going to be a president. her husband is!
And all of those things Bush did when he was younger, do you think that was ok for a future president?

And once again we should mention Cheney. Du you think he still should be vice president after his use of word in the Senate?



User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1039 times:

" ... Whether you believe it or not ... "

I don't believe it.

" ... I never hide the fact that I'm political, however, my life need not center around it ... "

I don't believe that either.

Your posts speak for themselves, especially your thread-starters.



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User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1029 times:

People stopped treating our presidents and first ladies well many years ago. With each election, they are subjected to more and more aggression and hate. So why is it that we expect them never to be affected by this?

Given what she is dealing with at the moment, a mere "shove it" *IS* an example of class compared to what a less sophisticated person might do.

We keep throwing bricks at them, and people wonder why they duck.



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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1006 times:

From what I gather, she just happened to be born in Mozambique, but isn't of Mozambican origin. She's ethnically Portuguese and her parents were living in Mozambique (it was a Portuguese colony until 1975).

She's no more Mozambican than, say, Uma Thurman is Japanese.

[Edited 2004-08-03 13:59:27]

User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 999 times:

She went to Wits ? Cool, me too (briefly !) - I wonder where she lived in JNB.

User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5989 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 981 times:

Alpha,
I think you missed this bit in -76m's previous post:
Now, if I did want to take a cheap shot at her, I'd repeat the comment I her on the morning drive talk radio program I listen to.


User currently offlineDvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 981 times:

If "Shove it" disqualifies Theresa to be first lady, then "Go f%$# yourself" certainly disqualifies Cheney to continue as vice president.


I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information.
User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 975 times:

Alpha1 - it was a joke, and I clearly stated it in advance. I'm sure you never tell GWB jokes.

What has happened that people can't even be humerous without sparking a political debate? To raise your taxes is funny. I think my post record shows that I'll share a good joke regardless of what side it makes the butt. Remember, I was the one who first posted the GOP Convention Agenda thread - even though I am a Republican.



25 AIR757200 : If "Shove it" disqualifies Theresa to be first lady, then "Go f%$# yourself" certainly disqualifies Cheney to continue as vice president. Dvk! Nice t
26 Santosdumont : Yyz wrote: That she said "shove it" to a reporter SHOULD be an issue. With those 2 words she showed how low-class and unfit for First Lady she is. It
27 Jaysit : "an older, spaced-out yet still authoritarian Air France flight attendant." LOL ! Thats priceless ! And like an AF FA, she could tell you to shove it
28 SlamClick : Jaysit I think most of us understand what "class-less society" means. It refers only to the circumstances of our birth making us "noble" or "common" o
29 N6376m : I just thought it was neat that she was born in Mozambique. -76M
30 SlamClick : Anyone remember that Barry Goldwater was running for President and he was not born in the USA? He was born in the southern part of what is now Arizona
31 Jaysit : "Jaysit I think most of us understand what "class-less society" means. It refers only to the circumstances of our birth making us "noble" or "common"
32 QB737 : Assuming that JFK is elected president, does this make her the first foreign born first lady? No. Louisa Catherine Johnson Adams (Mrs. John Quincy Ada
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