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US Customs Agent Sued For $5m By Tourist  
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

A chinese tourist intends to sue US Customs for US$5 million over an incident that occured while attempting to enter the United States in Niagara Falls last week.

US Customs agent Robert Rhodes faces criminal charges for use of excessive force to cause grievous bodily harm for his actions taken against Zhao Yan at the Rainbow Bridge.

Rhodes mistakenly assumed that Zhao Yan was involved with a drug smuggler attempting to flee the customs checkpoint and threw her into a wall, grabbed her hair, kneed her in the head and struck her head on the ground before spraying her with pepper spray. Zhao suffered swollen eyes, bruises around the face and a contusion on her forehead.



The Chinese government described the act as typical of "hegemonic attitude and racial discrimination" of the United States and called for a condemnation of the United States by human rights groups.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-tianjin30jul30,1,1344366.story?coll=la-headlines-world
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0730/p06s03-woap.html
http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040728/1057298.asp
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/v-pfriendly/story/215860p-185740c.html

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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3567 times:

Nowhere did I see any mention of her fleeing from the police. Had she done that, the case might be viewed differently; innocent people don't run.

Again, I didn't see it mentioned. But that doesn't necessarily mean that she didn't.

But if this is a case of a cop wearing his badge on his dick and beating a person senseless for no clear probable cause (i.e. running, resisting arrest, etc.), then this "cop" should be fed to the lions.


User currently offlineLHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

if this is as cut and dried as it seems, i hope the fucker gets screwed with an eggbeater.


"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3538 times:

I feel that if the cop did do this for no reason he/she should eb prosecuted. However this does not reflect "typical hegemonic attitude and racial discrimination of the United States" thats just utter BS there, and the Chinese just trying to get some political play, Hell the chinese government have no place to even remotely talk about violations of human rights.


"damn, I didnt know prince could Ball like that" - Charlie Murphy
User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4229 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3518 times:

The US government then played images of the dude getting run over by the tank.... bent over, and mooned the chinese government.




This cop on the otherhand needs to get ass raped in prison for a while...



Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3497 times:

Who knows... Maybe he thought she knew kung-fu  Yeah sure

User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3452 times:

Damn! She looks pretty f*cked up. The custom agent must have enjoyed beating a woman. I really hope that he will get the same treatment in prison. Even if the woman has done something wrong you don't beat the crap out of a woman like that.

User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3450 times:

"Rhodes mistakenly assumed that Zhao Yan was involved with a drug smuggler attempting to flee the customs checkpoint...."


Well, here is what was reported to have happened, from the Buffalo News;


The incident started when a male pedestrian had cleared customs at the bridge, before he was found carrying several pounds of marijuana.

According to an affidavit filed in U.S. District Court by the Department of Homeland Security, Rhodes hit the "duress" button and called for assistance. He later told superiors he asked the three women to come inside the inspection station, but instead they started to run. He then grabbed the nearest woman, Zhao.

Rhodes told officials that the woman tried to pull away from him and swung her arms at him, before he sprayed her with pepper spray.



Now, I'm not saying that beating the crap out of her was completely justified.... but really, if you take a swing at a LEO, then you're setting yourself up for an ass-whoopin'.

Lesson here; if you're innocent, don't run away - It makes you look guilty.....



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14144 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3443 times:

Well, she was maybe about 5 feet tall. Was the officer wearing a uniform or was he a plainclothes cop? I had a friend driving away from some people he considered trying to do a carjacking. I reality they were plainclothes cops who wanted to check his driver´s licence. He only found out when he got pulled out of his car by some uniformed, guntoting cops a few blocks down the road.

Jan




User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3439 times:

Well, she was maybe about 5 feet tall. Was the officer wearing a uniform or was he a plainclothes cop? I had a friend driving away from some people he considered trying to do a carjacking. I reality they were plainclothes cops who wanted to check his driver´s licence. He only found out when he got pulled out of his car by some uniformed, guntoting cops a few blocks down the road.

Customs Officials in border stations typically wear uniforms......

And what does her height have to do with anything?



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineImonti From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3433 times:

let me tell every one here a little secret, if your getting the shit beaten out of you weather your right or wrong you run like hell. Hey maybe she was just scared and paranoid and did try and run first, who really knows.

User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3411 times:

let me tell every one here a little secret, if your getting the shit beaten out of you weather your right or wrong you run like hell. Hey maybe she was just scared and paranoid and did try and run first, who really knows.

According to the officer's affidavit, she did indeed try and run first. So he grabbed her - that's when she took a swing at him. It was a logical progression of events from there....



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3373 times:

Goose:

"According to the officer's affidavit, she did indeed try and run first. So he grabbed her - that's when she took a swing at him. It was a logical progression of events from there...."

What do you mean, 'a logical progression of events'? I can somehow imagine an officer use some force with a woman who acts suspicious, this doesn't mean you have to beat the hell out of her!



Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3350 times:

You also have to take into account the possible culture and language barriers. WHo's to know that she really know what was being asked of her in that position or that she was utterly confused by the entire situation.
just my two cents,
A340


User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3350 times:

....innocent people don't run.


I agree. That's why Bush is running for President again...

 Smile

Seriously though, this is an inaccurate statement. When there is trouble, people scatter. Innocence has nothing to do with it. Its self-preservation.

How often have you read similar reactions when a gun fires? People run. If I saw a disturbance in an airport security line-up during a period of increased security, I might be inclined to back away myself. For all we know this lady may have thought she was fighting for her life.

Either way, I'm sure the big brave(?) officers could have subdued this lady without resorting to this kind of violence. Sounds like a case of run-away anger to me.

hegemonic attitude and racial discrimination

Funny (and true) story....yesterday I was on an NWA flight from MSP to YWG. I was in row 2. Some guy in row 1 wandered up to the service area in front to ask the flight attendant for more coffee. She asked him to immediately return to his seat for "security reasons".

She then brought his coffee to him and asked if he was "Canadian". He answered "no" and she continued to tell him in a hushed voice that it is quite typical for "Canadians" to rush the cockpit area in an inappropriate manner. "After all" she continued, they "didn't lose 3000 people so they couldn't possibly understand how stupid it is to approach the cockpit".

I stewed for awhile and decided to remain silent....since I had already spent a week successfully biting my tongue in the land of "we are the best screw the rest". This bitch would have probably written me up as a hostile passenger or something. After all, I was an "offensive" Canadian....



User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3319 times:

What do you mean, 'a logical progression of events'? I can somehow imagine an officer use some force with a woman who acts suspicious, this doesn't mean you have to beat the hell out of her!

Assaulting a officer of the law isn't a small issue, no matter your language differences. He used his judgement, made a choice, and his objective was to subdue her.... and he did just that. His judgement and choice turned out to be wrong - but that should be cause for a disciplinary action, not the loss of his job. It's my belief that he did the right thing for the right reasons, but only to the wrong person.....



"Talk to me, Goose..."
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