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If This Is True, And Kerry Wasn't In Cambodia...  
User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

What does it mean?


http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc93.htm




Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

Well since it is from Drudge nobody will take this potential purjury of the congress seriously.


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User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

Should be interesting, especially as it comes right after the SBV commercial and prior to the coming book.

I wonder why this and other "revelations" on Kerry's record is not more of a news story.



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

James, it means you're getting to be more and more like B757300, that's what it means.

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

James, it means you're getting to be more and more like B757300, that's what it means.

If you mean that by him posting this thread, take a look at his recent history:

If This Is True, And Kerry Wasn't In Cambodia... Jamesag96 2004-08-13 06:02:32

Death In Gaza...on HBO Tonight. Jamesag96 2004-08-13 05:34:17

Kerry, And His Boat Buddies From Nam... Jamesag96 2004-07-29 17:40:22


I don't see the big deal........



-NWA742


User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

I posed a question with a big IF...but thanks for ignoring the implications and comparing me to another poster whom I have nothing in common.

Oh...sorry, that is typically what you do. Carry on.






Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

Don't feel baad James.

Alpha1 has been sounding more and more like Roy over time.



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User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5614 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1763 times:

If...

...it will be another brick in Senator Kerry's wall of disingenuity.



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User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

Not much will happen. The media will give Kerry a pass like they always do and keep whining about Abu Ghraib or some other manufactured "scandal".

Of course they never point out that Kerry lies nearly every day.

He goes to Nevada and claims that he'll never use Yucca Mountain to store nuclear waste. However during his time in the Senate, every bill that came up that pushed Yucca Mountain forward Kerry voted in favor of including the so called "Screw Nevada" bill.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Jul-29-Thu-2004/news/24415534.html

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2004/aug/11/517322076.html?kerry%20yucca
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During his speech at the convention, he claimed a woman in New Hampshire that had suffered from cancer had to continue working during her treatment because she would lose her health insurance. The truth was she worked during her treatments because she wanted too. She could have taken off up to 6 months for illness and only lost a slight amount of monthly income.

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=42011
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While on the stump yesterday, part of his speech to a bunch of seniors included talking about the Medicare Drug Bill.

- "...they say I want to repeal it, no I don't, I want to FIX it!"

However, during a New Hampshire campaign stop, he said "If I am President I pledge to you that we will repeal that phony bill..."

-"I proudly and I think rightly voted against this prescription drug bill."

However, Kerry skipped the vote.

Due to some conflict with this site, the URL to the bill won't display correctly. To see it follow these links that are on the page linked to above.

108th Congress, 1st Session (2003)

Click on Vote "00459" to bring up the roll call vote for the bill and see Kerry did not vote.



"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1741 times:

Oh, and just for Alpha1. I am very glad that I'm so special to you that you have to bring me into just about every thread. I must be doing something right if now you're using me as an insult against the other conservatives, libertarians, moderate conservatives here. It just makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

" ... It just makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over ...

The only thing that is fuzzy about you is your logic, and perhaps your honesty.



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User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1703 times:

I am actually a little surprised, and a bit saddened that this hasn't garnered more attention.

Kinda proving a point though isn't it?

"The only thing that is fuzzy about you is your logic, and perhaps your honesty."

Diamond, are you saying that after having spent the time to look at the links to information he provided. Kerry's own words, Kerry's own history.

Say what you will about this kid B757300, but he backed it up and you guys rather than addressing the issues go after the messenger. A sure sign of being defensive and ignorant on the topic at hand.

Where did Alf go?



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1697 times:

I am actually a little surprised, and a bit saddened that this hasn't garnered more attention.

Maybe you're saddened because people aren't buying your bullshit. They're growing tired of right-wing crap on here.


User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1680 times:

Look, everyone knows politics is dirty - you throw mud, you get mud thrown on you.

What I can't understand is that Kerry hasn't come out and categorically denied the allegations made against him. If these things aren't true, step 1 has to be to deny them, complete, categorically, directly and without hedging.

Kerry's silence on the matter reminds me of the Catholic Church's response to pedophile priest who are accused of wrong doing. The church doesn't deny the allegations but instead they attack the accusers.

If this is really a cheap shot, the Kerry should call bullshit. There is a Latin maxim that says in silencio consentium - he who is silent is said to consent.

Could it be that Kerry has learned the lesson of former President Clinton which is - don't go on national TV to categorically deny something which you know to be true?

At the end of the day, if Kerry doesn't deny the allegations, why shouldn't people believe them?


User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

Another quality post:

"Maybe you're saddened because people aren't buying your bullshit. They're growing tired of right-wing crap on here."

So let me get this straight:

IF it is true, and it turns out that Kerry lied yet again about something concerning his tour of duty, you know the one where he earned three purple hearts, the one that he likes to base his entire candidacy on...then it is right wing crap, or it is my bullshit?

Well that makes perfect sense to me now.

I think if Kerry is indeed telling the truth he should come out and categorically deny all of the recent revelations, the fact that he hasn't should raise eyebrows.




Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineYanksn4 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1404 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

I am actually a little surprised, and a bit saddened that this hasn't garnered more attention.

It wasn't big attention, but I did watch this story on Scarborough Country Tuesday night where they had Kerry's Captain or something in Vietnam to talk about his new book that proves Kerry never actually deserved the medals he got in Vietnam and is just making up the heroic tales of him there. The book is titled "Unfit for Command" by John O'Neal.



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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6923 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

I guess Alpha1 is perfectly content with having a total liar, disingenous flip-flopper who lacks any moral compass and is about as pathological a liar as Slick Willie.

I guess by the same logic, it's alright to have a treasonous gutless man like Kerry hold the highest office in the land. I guess the dishonor that he put upon his shipmates, his fellow Navy officers and the rest of the military by lying about specious Purple Heart claims means nothing to Alpha1. In that case, by all means, vote for him...



User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

I guess Alpha1 is perfectly content with having a total liar, disingenous flip-flopper who lacks any moral compass and is about as pathological a liar as Slick Willie.

No, I have no desire to see George Bush in office another 4 years, thank you.

And Slider, you slap anyone who served honorably in the face when you call Mr. Kerry "treasonous". I don't think I'll be calling on your for calm, cool, well thought-out opinions on the subject, since your head is way to far up the ass of the incumbent.

Guys like you are a pathetic example of Americans. The worst kind, in my book.

You're only slightly worse, lately, than the rabble above you that kisses his ass every day on here.


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

And don't forget the medals..... Kerry really likes those medals. You know... the ones he threw over the fence?

Oh, wait... those were someone else's medals....


User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

Alf do you ever just answer questions or do you always deflect?

All you ever come up with are son, boy, ass kisser...do you have a Macro that you use for this forum?

To be sure there are a lot of goofasses on here both Dem and Rep, but goodness man try to address the topic at hand.

Or are you afraid it might be true?



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

None of you probably really knows what it means because you've all pretty much made up your minds on who you're going to vote for (or who you would vote for if you could). You'd probably have to ask someone on the fence to find out; although good luck finding a fencesitter on A.net.


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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

James, I don't believe it's true, just like I don't believe he shot himself in the foot.

Hell, even Bush said yesterday that Kerry served honorably, and should be proud of his service. Maybe you guys should take a cue from him-I mean, after all, you nod your head at whatever he says to begin with.


User currently offlinePhxairfan From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 811 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

Your missing the point. Kerry served his country in Vietnam, that is honorable and cannot be taken away from him. HOWEVER, that does not give him the right to lie about what happened there. When a group of people that were there with him right a book about how he lied and is unfit for command. That tells you something. When he says that he was in Cambodia on Christmas eve 1968, and tells congress that it is "seared" into his memory. Only to come out and deny he was actually there, that is disingenuous. Blaming this on a right wing conspiracy is ridiculous and you know it. The truth is there, although it sometimes hard to tell when he keeps changing his story.

User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

"TOUR OF DUTY author and John Kerry historian Doug Brinkley is rushing a piece for the NEW YORKER: to set-the-record-straight on Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia tale, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

Kerry has turned to author Brinkley for a "modification" after it was exposed that Kerry was not in Cambodia during Christmas of 1968, as he once claimed from the Senate floor."

"...I don't believe it's true..."
Ok, so IF it is true you don't have a problem with it?


"...after all, you nod your head at whatever he says to begin with."

Poor thing, you just can't help it can you?

Why has Kerry not come out and denounced the SBV?



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineCptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1607 times:

I find it interesting, too, that Sen Kerry has been attributed to saying that he was "uncomfortable" participating in President Nixon's "secret" war in Cambodia in 1968. If memory serves me correctly, Nixon didn't become president until 1969. Hmmmm.

Without many options, I'll revert to my long-held belief that there is usually just a fine-line between a politician and a self-serving liar (at best) and a criminal (at worse), and this goes for any of them. No surprises with this latest fodder, and I'm sure it will continue even after election day. Hey, people are still bitching about the LAST election, no? Regards...Jack



all best; jack
25 NonRevKing : I wonder why this and other "revelations" on Kerry's record is not more of a news story. Oh I don't know...Maybe because they're not true? You guys ar
26 Post contains links Jamesag96 : Great post Rev...doesn't address any of the issues brought up. Well played. I think Alf is "see no evil"...which monkey are you? Got this little nugge
27 Post contains links and images B2707SST : This flap mainly revolves around two public statements Kerry has made about the Cambodia issue. The first was in a 1979: letter to the Boston Herald O
28 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : At the end of the day, if Kerry doesn't deny the allegations, why shouldn't people believe them? Why has Kerry not come out and denounced the SBV? Fea
29 NonRevKing : Why hasn't he addressed the issues? Somethings are so atrocious, why dignify them with a response? Great post Rev...doesn't address any of the issues
30 Con-pilot : Yeah, once more; who you ya going to believe, Kerry or your lying eyes and ears.
31 Jamesag96 : So you are the "hear no evil" one eh? "It's all bullshit made up by the right." Sure it is...so when this Brinkley guy goes back and alters the Bio wh
32 Spinzels : B2707SST: So far this isn’t news, this is a circle of rumors circulated by the usual partisan news outlets: such as the editorial page of the ferven
33 Jamesag96 : Spinzels...do you know Jaysit? At any rate, Nixon was not President in 68 and Kerry has not come out and denied any of it.
34 Post contains images NonRevKing : At any rate, Nixon was not President in 68 and Kerry has not come out and denied any of it. Great post James...doesn't address any of the issues broug
35 B2707SST : He was President Elect on Christmas 1968! You forgot to mention that! Again, is this the best you can do? So what? The Easter Bunny could have been Pr
36 Jamesag96 : At any rate, Nixon was not President in 68 and Kerry has not come out and denied any of it. Great post James...doesn't address any of the issues broug
37 Slider : "And Slider, you slap anyone who served honorably in the face when you call Mr. Kerry "treasonous"" Well, considering Kerry is a man--and I use that t
38 NonRevKing : Oh wait. I'm arguing with the retarded. My bad. I'm not getting in any debate or acknowledge any of this because it's ludicrous. And that's what you w
39 Phxairfan : "I'm no longer going to dignify this absolute abomination of a subject." AKA, I cannot support my position, so I give up.
40 Post contains images NonRevKing : AKA, I cannot support my position, so I give up. Right, so he's guilty until proven innocent. Ok guys, what ever helps you sleep at night. I still pos
41 Alpha 1 : I don't care, Slider, if you'r a communist; a fascist-I don't care. If you REALLY believe what you say, you're just being imbicilic. Kerry served, eve
42 Jamesag96 : Lunatics and retards...Communists and Fascists...my oh my have you two done your homework! LOL. "Until then, this cheap shot isn't worthy of a spirite
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