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Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"  
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/13/moore.goss.reut/index.html

And we want this guy running the Central Intelligence Agency? ROTFL.

All you Michael Moore haters, flame away. I really could care less (I've never anything Moore has done, so it doesn't affect my view on this).

His confirmation hearings should be a riot.  Big grin

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User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

People's own words do have a nasty habit of coming back and biting them in the ass. I remember a certain President saying quite clearly, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky." I seem to recall a finger wave accompanying that statement.

I also recall a certain sitting Senator saying, "I voted for the war before I voted against the war."

The same Senator also said something about being in Cambodia on Christmas 1968 fighting some secret war while listening to a voice in his head which he identified as President Nixon though Nixon wasn't yet the President.

 Big grin


User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2132 times:

NWA, I dont see why not bitch about that. You right wingers are just trying to sway everyones view off the topic. Its typical though, your blind to everything Bush is wrong on and you wont admit it.

As for Goss, I think its clarification enough when the words come from his own mouth. Yeah, he's really a guy I want to be the US's top spy.  Insane.

But yet, it wont surprise me if you guys find a way to praise Bush somehow on this issue.


User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 64
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

Guys, enough with the name-calling. When you stoop to that level, you lose all credibility, regardless of your 'side'.

As far as the thread-starter goes, all subsequent comments should be made about Porter Goss - and whether he is a good pick for the CIA or not. It's not about Michael Moore, Kerry or Clinton. If the thread was about any of those people, then maybe the comments would mean something.

But if the subject is Porter Goss and you deflect it to something else, then it just becomes a big contest to see who can deflect the hardest.

Give it a rest already. Stay on topic or stay out of it.




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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2091 times:

Ok, I'll stay on topic: if the guy admitted in an interview that he's not qualified for the job, then he shouldn't have the job, and it's stupid of him to accept it after saying that.

Any other takers?


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

He admitted he would not qualify for "a job" with the CIA because he is not an "Arabist". He does not need to be one as the head of the agency. Duh.  Big grin

Maybe he should go stay at a Holiday Inn Express like Alpha and become an overnight expert...?


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2076 times:

He admitted he would not qualify for "a job" with the CIA because he is not an "Arabist". He does not need to be one as the head of the agency. Duh.

Duh. If he can't get an entry-level job with them, how should he be considered qualified to run the joint? Seems to me, you'd want someone who knows the culture of CIA-it's strengths and weaknesses, inside and out-and not someone who says he couldn't get a job there. That doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

And NWA742, I see you couldn't take Diamond's advice, so why not either do so, or stop your bellyaching?

Now, firstly, I understand where you're coming from, Republicans often talk about Clinton or Kerry in a thread about Bush. What you don't understand is that THIS IS NORMAL, AND IT HAPPENS FROM BOTH SIDES.

Horse shit. If it's a comparison of Clinton v. Bush, or Kerry v. Bush, or Gore v. Bush, then I don't have a problem with it. But it wasn't about that! It was about a Bush nominee, for Chrissake, and yet a RWAK still tried to turn it into some kind of referendum on Clinton and Kerry! If Clinton and Kerry have something to do with the subject, fine, but they didn't. That's called trying to deflect criticism, but you're too blind to see that.

Back to the subject. If this is the best Bush can do, I think he should start over again. Do you conservatives have anyone else you'd like to see as a candidate, besides Porter Goss?


User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 64
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

I have a question.












Has anyone heard about this comment that Porter Goss was quoted as saying?









Sounds interesting to me.










I wonder how he will reconcile that statement now that he has accepted the job.










I'm sure there's an explanation. I wonder what it is.












 Smile  Smile  Smile




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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2049 times:

Fine, then clam up, stay on the subject, if you can, and leave me the hell alone, fair enough?

Fair enough.

So, who can you think of who would fit the bill for CIA?

Well for starters, nobody from the Democratic side.  Big grin


-NWA742


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2047 times:

Alpha, you've really sunk low if you now have to rely on Michael Moron for your attacks. Then again, seeing how all we hear as cheap insults and attack from you, we shouldn't be surprised. You can't even debate the topics at hand. All you can do is the standard Democrat tactic and attack the person saying whatever it is you don't like. I guess when your position is untenable, all that is left is to try and smear the person(s) who is right. Just look at what the Democrats are trying to do to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

If you think about what Goss was saying, he is most likely talking about being a field agent, something he probably is no longer qualified to be. As the head of the CIA, he needs to be able to manage and coordinate the agency. Something that takes different skills than that of a field agent.



"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 64
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

" ... nobody from the Democratic side ... "

So much for taking the high road.



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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

Edit: Diamond, I wasn't being serious, hence the wink.



-NWA742

[Edited 2004-08-14 07:03:32]

[Edited 2004-08-14 07:08:04]

User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 64
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

It gets to the point where a wink or two doesn't cancel out the rhetoric. Try replacing the wink with some real (and FAIR) input.

As you may be able to tell, I have just about had it with everyone competing to see just how unreasonable they can possibly be. Even if it is fun. It's just getting tiresome.

[Edited 2004-08-14 07:09:12]


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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

Since I haven't been keeping up with the news lately due to a full-time job, replying would be ignorant. However, no on else appears to have so I don't feel so bad for this...yes I'm blaming all of you...can't any of you folks 'be the man' and get this thread-discussion over with or is the last word THAT important to you??




The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

Considering these comments came from film footage Michael Moore took for his latest "Mock-metary" , I wouldn't put a hell of a lot of stock in them.

Who knows how they have been clipped and editied together.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21129 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

He admitted he would not qualify for "a job" with the CIA because he is not an "Arabist". He does not need to be one as the head of the agency. Duh.

Umm, in case you haven't noticed, the CIA is going to be pretty busy in Arab countries in the future. I myself would like the CIA chief to have a decent amount of knowledge about the history, the culture, etc. That way, he can separate the BS that so-called "experts" give him from what is actually important.

Oh, and if you think he's talking about becoming a field officer, you're out of your mind. He's talking about becoming an analyst or something. his lack of qualifications for employment as a modern CIA staffer. And if he isn't fit to be an analyst, then he is in no way fit to run the CIA. Simple as that.



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 40
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

How dare you suggest what I think you're suggesting.

So what if he's not qualified to run the CIA? Since when is qualification or capability a prerequisite to a powerful job like that? Haven't we seen proof enough that only having a pulse is? I mean look at his boss...


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21129 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

How dare you suggest what I think you're suggesting.

So what if he's not qualified to run the CIA? Since when is qualification or capability a prerequisite to a powerful job like that? Haven't we seen proof enough that only having a pulse is? I mean look at his boss...


Oh, of course. I forgot. Sorry about that.  Wink/being sarcastic



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

The world according to Alpha1:

Liberal (or left-wing as he likes to term it) = smart

Conservative (right wing extremist) = stupid, idiot, moron

The funny thing is how easy it is to get Alpha1 all worked up.

Of course Clinton's lie has no impact on Porter Goss's statement - it's just fun to throw it out there an what the liberal bed wetters go nuts. There is one substantive thing that came out of this, at least the liberales are finally conceeding that Clinton lied (instead of sticking with the argument that a lie about sex isn't a lie).

 Big grin


User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 40
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

The funny thing is how easy it is to get Alpha1 all worked up.

No. The funny thing is to watch the right-wing nutjobs get all worked up over nothing, drying to defend him to death! It's bloody hilarious!


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1954 times:

I'll give you a Democratic name, who was well thought of, by both Dems and Republicans when he was in Congress: Sam Nunn. He was well versed in foreign affairs and in intelligence.

Considering these comments came from film footage Michael Moore took for his latest "Mock-metary" , I wouldn't put a hell of a lot of stock in them.

Of course you wouldn't, L-188, even if it's striaght from words that Goss himself said. You're so far up there, too, that you never let facts get in the way.

The funny thing is how easy it is to get Alpha1 all worked up.

ROTFL. Seeing that about 30% of my intention was to get you right-wingers all defensive, or to lash out at the source or Dems-and, like Pavlov's dog, you didn't fail me-I think it's funny how easy YOU get worked up, not me, pal.  Laugh out loud

Part of this WAS to see the reaction of the RWAK's on here; but part was deadly serious-we have a guy who doesn't think he's qualified, accepting the top spy post for this nation. At a time as we are in now, that is not what we need.


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1951 times:

" If he can't get an entry-level job with them, how should he be considered qualified to run the joint? Seems to me, you'd want someone who knows the culture of CIA-it's strengths and weaknesses, inside and out-and not someone who says he couldn't get a job there.."

So using your twisted logic, I suppose the head of NASA is qualified to build, repair, and fly the space shuttle? And I suppose he or she should be qualified at all jobs from floor sweeper to 'rocket scientist'?

Helluva job....


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1946 times:

Of course you wouldn't, L-188, even if it's striaght from words that Goss himself said.

Considering the hack job he did on Charlton Hestons NRA presidency speech, the comment was very appropriate.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 40
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1947 times:

Excuse me, but I'm just an ignorant foreigner (though, aren't we all?) but what's an RWAK?

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1919 times:

Jasepl, that's my new name for all the Bush buddies on here: Right-Wing, Ass-Kissers, i.e. RWAK's.

25 NWA742 : Jasepl, that's my new name for all the Bush buddies on here: Right-Wing, Ass-Kissers, i.e. RWAK's. You call every conservative/Republican on these boa
26 Rsmith6621a : Not a Porter Goss bashing thread....... After all Porter is just doing what the Shrub wants him to.......that is win votes for Florida. Alpha1.......
27 Post contains images Alpha 1 : It could mean that, too! I think they'd find it more acceptable to have what you said, Rsmith6621a, but I'm leaving it the way I want it. You call eve
28 NWA742 : I can think of at least two that I think are conservative that I don't put in the RWAK column: JetService and KROC. So much for your little theory. Wo
29 Alpha 1 : Yes. two. What's your problem with that? It blows away your assertion that i put ALL conservatives. I don't think KROC or JS are the ideologues that y
30 Post contains images NWA742 : Yes. two. It blows away your assertion that i put ALL conservatives. It proves it wrong, I wouldn't say it "blows away" my assertion if you do it to e
31 Mir : So using your twisted logic, I suppose the head of NASA is qualified to build, repair, and fly the space shuttle? And I suppose he or she should be qu
32 Jasepl : Jasepl, that's my new name for all the Bush buddies on here: Right-Wing, Ass-Kissers, i.e. RWAK's Thanks Alpha1! I'm not too sure about the right-wing
33 Post contains images Alpha 1 : but I hope for the AWAKs'.. Get with the program, man! It's RWAK's!!
34 Jasepl : Get with the program, man! It's RWAK's!! Sorry! But Ass-Wing and Right-Wing... Is there really a difference?
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