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Frying Live Crabs, Not Cruel?  
User currently offlineSaleem From Pakistan, joined Mar 2000, 194 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3010 times:

I was just watching a few days back "BBC Foods", in which they showed cooking some Crabs, putting live into boiling water or oil to cook those.

Is this not cruel to put live Crabs into boiling water??

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User currently offlineL.1011 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2209 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2995 times:

Animals don't have feelings. People have taste buds. Crab tastes good.


(This has been L.1011 telling it like it is)


User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

I don't think crustaceans feel pain in the same sense that we do. We boil lobsters and nobody has a problem with that.

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7760 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

Well lobsters are boiled live too. I believe there is a practical reason for this... not sure what it is.

Scroll down to the "Oh the humanity part"

http://allrecipes.com/advice/coll/all/articles/96P1.asp

[Edited 2004-08-20 05:23:33]


Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineCaptoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

Deep frying a crab is cruel, to the people eating it.

Boil the damned things, it really causes me much pain to see great seafood ruined in a deep fryer.

Who the hell cares if the crab feels it? The boiling liquid only hurts for a second, and they taste good.


User currently offlineJutes85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

Crabs don't feel pain.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2975 times:

Was this the Julia Child "pan fried crab" episode.

Apparently the wankers at PETA had a fit because the guest chef split the live crabs in half with a knife before putting them on the skillet



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

I've heard it said from an expert crab fisherman that it's best to clean them while they're still alive, then break up the crab into pieces and boil it. Supposed to taste better that way, as opposed to boiling the whole thing first, then cleaning.

Try it! You migh like it!



User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

You could always stab them in the head with a knife before boiling them... Or put them in the freezer for 5 minutes so they black out...

They taste good!



I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

Animals don't have feelings. People have taste buds. Crab tastes good.

 Laugh out loud

I'm damn close to putting you on my RR, just for that take!! EXCELLENT!!

Makes me want to go to Dead..err, Red Lobster, right now.

Crabs don't feel pain.

PETA feels the pain for them.  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3611 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

We did an experiment at the beach one day. We boiled crabs and removed them at different intervals, some as soon as 2-3 seconds and they were already dead. So, it's only a second or two at the MOST that they feel pain, if so, they probably pass out instantly anyway from the shock.

User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

I've heard that the reason why they boil the crabs alive, is because the crab gets stressed and somehow something happens to the meat which makes it tastier.

User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2939 times:

I actually had stuffed Lobster tonight...one they took out of the tank and specially cooked up for me. It tasted much better knowing the Lobster was killed just for me...mmm extra fresh.

It's even more fun to name the crabs/lobsters, let em play around on your kitchen floor (rubber bands of course), then boil the suckers. Screw PETA.

DeltaGuy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

Well when I was out at the soccer world cup in Korea I saw a live bear being lowered into a vat of boiling water in a restaurant. So if it is okay to boil a bear alive I can't see how boiling a crab alive should be a problem.


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineKEESJE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2913 times:

No they don't feel pain

because we would be cruel then

& we don't want to be cruel

so lets just agree they don't feel pain



User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6688 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

There's probably less pain than being eaten alive by some other predator.


wheat and dairy can screw up your brain
User currently offlineANA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 294 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2894 times:

Gordon Ramsey doesn't boil lobsters, he cuts them in half while they are alive - a quick knife push through the head. They seems to die straight away. For non-Brits, Ramsey is one of the celeb. chefs in the UK, and probably the most talked about. His food's pretty good too.

Anders


User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

Well when I was out at the soccer world cup in Korea I saw a live bear being lowered into a vat of boiling water in a restaurant. So if it is okay to boil a bear alive I can't see how boiling a crab alive should be a problem.

Boiling a bear sound pretty gross. I wonder why the asians have their strange food culture. They cook the sickest things sometimes.


[Edited 2004-08-20 11:05:58]

User currently offlineSaleem From Pakistan, joined Mar 2000, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2871 times:

As per Islamic teaching, Islam allows to slaughter animal in a special way. The sea food is exempted from slaughtering. There is particular way to slaughter an animal as a minimum pain to them and drain blood from their bodies.

However, Islam forbids to kill any animal through Heat.


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2835 times:


it's best to clean them while they're still alive, then break up the crab into pieces

We did an experiment at the beach one day. We boiled crabs and removed them at different intervals, some as soon as 2-3 seconds and they were already dead.

boil the crabs alive, is because the crab gets stressed and somehow something happens to the meat which makes it tastier.


In some countries suffering endured is believed to enhance its potency as a health food or traditional remedy. I will not go into details or link cat/dog pictures...

I thought it was just Asia..

In general I think it is a good thing to kill for food as fast as possible.



User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2802 times:

If it really bothered the crab then he would scream. Besides, Oly720man is right; it has to be better than other predators. Can you imagine how much it would suck to get eaten by an octopus?


"Shaddap you!"
User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

Saleem -

Do you advocate a lethal injection for the crabs before they're boiled?


User currently offlineSaleem From Pakistan, joined Mar 2000, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2783 times:

N6376m, no I am not of the opinion to give lethal injections, but to kill them before boiling. May be any user having medical back ground give better answer.

I often heard that killing anyone by heating is real torture as against by slaughtering or any thing else. I heard that burnt human beings remain in senses and always feel pain they can never be non-conscious when burnt.

So, that's probably why Islam forbids killing any living being through heat more precisely by FIRE.

May be as some users explained that in boiling they immediately died, so that may not be a longer painful act, and killing any living animal directly on fire would be painful.



User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2776 times:

Saleem - I was trying (apparently not very successfully) to be funny.

I did learn something today about Islam (the killing by fire thing) so let's just chalk this up to a learning experience and move on.

Perhaps it would be useful if someone could post a "did you know . . . " about Islam every day, little by little it might help everyone understand each other a bit better.


User currently offlineSaleem From Pakistan, joined Mar 2000, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

Dear N6376m

Although little bit of the topic, but Islam is very particular where it comes to the rights and obligations. Muslims slaughter animal but we have very strict conditions regarding animals as how to slaughter them.

Islam is very particular in wars, not to kill any citizens, including old age persons, women and children. Islam forbids to cut trees in war without any reasons. Islam is not only religion but a way of life.

It is very unfortunate that these terrorist activities actually exploits the Islam. Islam never allow to do such activities and seriously, to be honest very very seriously against killing innocent persons and every one who is involved will be strictly answerable on the day of judgment.

Allah (The Almighty God) has the only right to punish anyone in the hell by burning through FIRE, so that no one is allowed in this world to burn someone through FIRE.

I am just going to start a new thread that is regarding "Why Islam Forbids eating pork"

It is too late and mid night here, so remaining discussion will be in the morning

With best wishes to all users

Regards


25 L-188 : Islam is very particular in wars, not to kill any citizens, including old age persons, women and children I hope the folks in the world trade center w
26 Post contains images Slider : OK, L-188, that's a topic for a different thread. And believe me, I'm biting my tongue too. Back to crabs and crustaceans. Should we dunk them in a po
27 DLKAPA : Now, pass me the bacon, my fishing pole, and crank over another blue crab. And a beer. MUHAHAHAAA!!!! Can I come too?
28 Post contains images Slider : DLKAPA- Sure, just bring more beer. And no sniveling liberal whining pansies allowed either. House rules, hehe... Oh, and cigars. Gotta have cigars.
29 Post contains images WellHung : DLKAPA- Sure, just bring more beer. And no sniveling liberal whining pansies allowed either. House rules, hehe... Well THAT'S a flip-flop if I've ever
30 Post contains images Slider : Flip flop? hehe No way dude....beer, food, manly man. Cigars. hey, it's a wonderful life. Bring the red meat.
31 Canoecarrier : I'm thinking of the "Iron Chefs" Lobster battle when I saw this thread. Who cares! In that IC episode, they hacked off the tails of the live lobsters,
32 Post contains images DLKAPA : Hmm Beer lets see... College kid... I think we can work something out
33 L-188 : Somebody have a server that can host a movie? I have saved in my e-mail folder of a crab that learns the hard way about differential pressure, some of
34 AvObserver : "Animals don't have feelings. People have taste buds. Crab tastes good." Wrong on the 1st count, L-1011, as a onetime owner of various pets can attest
35 DLKAPA : I'm guessing you are a vegetarian?
36 Pilot kaz : If I liked the animal in taste I would not care. If I liked the animal for the animal I would care. but I don't like crabs as an animal but I don't li
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