"A series of interviews and a review of documents show a web of connections to the Bush family, high-profile Texas political figures and President Bush's chief political aide, Karl Rove."
"Several of those now declaring Mr. Kerry "unfit" had lavished praise on him, some as recently as last year."
" What drives the veterans, they acknowledge, is less what Mr. Kerry did during his time in Vietnam than what he said after."
Read the rest. I'm sure our RWAK friends will excuse and apologize, then bully those who dare defend Mr. Kerry or dare tie Mr. Rove or Mr. Bush to this. Too bad. These SWVT's are dishonorable, bitter old men, who have held a grudge for years, not, as the article says ,over what Kerry did in the war, but that he dared speak out against it (as lots of Vets did, but lots of Vets aren't running for President ,are they?). Their lie is unravelling, and it looks like Mr. Bush and his top handler are getting ensnared in it.
Cwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 18 Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1089 times:
I find it interesting that the Kerry people, and Kerry himself, have done nothing to refute the actual claims of these people, on a factual basis. In fact, they do nothing to refute claims about his Senate record, both voting and attendance. They, instead, try to make each and every criticism out to be some sort of conspiracy planned by the Bush family, and attempt to smear those who would make claims against him...not so nice message, not exactly untrue, so SHOOT THE MESSENGER! Look, Kerry decided to make his war record a centerpiece of his campaign. Therefore, it is up for scrutiny and criticism. He should have followed John McCain's advice, and declared the Vietnam war over. However, it is the only distraction Sen. Kerry has from his abysmal Senate record. Kerry folks are going to have to get used to the fact that many, many people at all levels of occupational and wealth status have "ties" to the Bush family. It is a BIG family, which has been active politically for a very long time. Kerry's just having a hard time making his transition from "Vote for me; I'm not the other guy" to "This is why you should vote for me, regardless of the other guy."
Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
QIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1068 times:
Well I must admit that I do.
I'm also starting to get tired of all these threads. But on the other hand I agree with Alpha. The righties on this bord should hear some truths about Mr Bush
I know this is one of the only political threadstarter Alpha has started so It's ok. But that other guy Rsmith is starting to become a pain in the ass. And I still wish they could post them in the 2 Official election threads we have made for this purpose.
MidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 15 Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1067 times:
Welcome to the world of the "527" ad attacks, same thing can be said with Moveon.org, everybody was ok with that group & they are being financed by every Leftie Democrat. These "527" groups are disgusting and they will once again have to change the campaign laws, both sides are under attack.
Making a donation is not the same as being in bed with the Swift Boat ads, as long as the two groups are not working together, there is no problem. I can make a donation to the Swift Boat ads, it does not mean that the ads are being supported by the Republican part.
Now, the best that John Kerry can do is to find out where the money?? Wasn't to hard, the group released the list of donors earlier than required.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1001 times:
.and if you add that to what alpha-boy adds to the discussion, the grand total = 0
I started the thread. RWAK's like yourself and Cwapilot haven't even commented on it-just your same dry, useless, self-effacing junk. For a guy who thinks he so smart, you don't ever have much to say, except to make fun of others. Tells me one thing-you don't HAVE anything to say in defense.
James-I link to a respected paper, The New York Times. You link to Drudge. And you want me to take you seriously. Get a life. Woof Woof.
Boeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2269 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 942 times:
Like all intelligent people, I see the bigger picture. An intelligent person actually can see BOTH sides of a story and come to his or her own conclusion without taking a hard line.
Exactly how is it flip-flopping that I agree with Maverick about not caring about the service but point out that Bush has no right to criticize Kerry on this issue? Either way, it should not be an issue in the campaign.
Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
25 Spinzels: I haven't read the posts, I get tired of the Alf's, the Jaysits, the Rsmiths on here that continually attack without asking questions. I could tell y
26 B757300: Of course there is no proof that the SBVT are connected to President Bush except for the fact that one of their donors has give money to President Bus
27 L-188: You know the way that Alpha1 obsesses about GW, he is going to give himself a heart attack before he gets a chance to vote against him
28 Slider: L-188, and God help us if W gets re-elected, the sumbitch'll have a total meltdown. Of course, I'm voting for either the Libertarian or Constitution P
29 AvObserver: Excellent post, Slider, and I salute you for voting your conscience, regardless of your candidate's slim-to-none chances. I can't be that pure, myself