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SWVT's Have Ties To Rove, Bush  
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1406 times:

Well, I said this was the case, and since it smelled so much like a Bush/Rove type of attack, read it and weep, all you RWAK's.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?ex=1093060800&en=820eaffc948c1e3e&ei=5059&partner=AOL

A few snippets from the article:

"A series of interviews and a review of documents show a web of connections to the Bush family, high-profile Texas political figures and President Bush's chief political aide, Karl Rove."

"Several of those now declaring Mr. Kerry "unfit" had lavished praise on him, some as recently as last year."

" What drives the veterans, they acknowledge, is less what Mr. Kerry did during his time in Vietnam than what he said after."


Read the rest. I'm sure our RWAK friends will excuse and apologize, then bully those who dare defend Mr. Kerry or dare tie Mr. Rove or Mr. Bush to this. Too bad. These SWVT's are dishonorable, bitter old men, who have held a grudge for years, not, as the article says ,over what Kerry did in the war, but that he dared speak out against it (as lots of Vets did, but lots of Vets aren't running for President ,are they?). Their lie is unravelling, and it looks like Mr. Bush and his top handler are getting ensnared in it.

Suits me just fine.

OK, RWAK's, fire away with your pot-shots.

[Edited 2004-08-20 15:12:55]

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1389 times:

And I heard that Moveon.org has links to George Soros....Your point in all this.

Other then continuing an irrational hatred?



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2244 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

RWAK... Right Whips on Alpha1's Kerry?  Big grin


"On spaceship earth there are no passengers...only crew."
User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1378 times:



User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1374 times:

I find it interesting that the Kerry people, and Kerry himself, have done nothing to refute the actual claims of these people, on a factual basis. In fact, they do nothing to refute claims about his Senate record, both voting and attendance. They, instead, try to make each and every criticism out to be some sort of conspiracy planned by the Bush family, and attempt to smear those who would make claims against him...not so nice message, not exactly untrue, so SHOOT THE MESSENGER! Look, Kerry decided to make his war record a centerpiece of his campaign. Therefore, it is up for scrutiny and criticism. He should have followed John McCain's advice, and declared the Vietnam war over. However, it is the only distraction Sen. Kerry has from his abysmal Senate record. Kerry folks are going to have to get used to the fact that many, many people at all levels of occupational and wealth status have "ties" to the Bush family. It is a BIG family, which has been active politically for a very long time. Kerry's just having a hard time making his transition from "Vote for me; I'm not the other guy" to "This is why you should vote for me, regardless of the other guy."



Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

Hehe.... Big grin
Why did a have a feeling that this Phuket air would show up in this thread??


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1370 times:

And I heard that Moveon.org has links to George Soros....Your point in all this.

Is that Bush is lying through his teeth when he sais people shouldn't question Kerry's service, because, through allies and friends, and a nice web in Texas, he's doing that.

WOOF WOOF, L-188. I knew I could count on you-even though you're NOT a Republican, to try to deflect the subject. So freaking typical.

Other then continuing an irrational hatred?

Yes, the SBVT's do have an irrational hatred, don't they.

Smoooooch! Pucker up, L-188.

And Cwapilot adds absolutely nothing to the discussion of the topic, but just turns it into a usual RWAK rant against Kerry. WOOF WOOF!

[Edited 2004-08-20 15:38:17]

User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

you agree then QIguy24?  Big thumbs up

[Edited 2004-08-20 15:38:01]

User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1360 times:

When you look up and down the list of threads, it seems like the usual suspects merely rehash the Democratic talking points of the day. Don't you people have your own hate-sites for this drivel?


Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

You've noticed that too Cwapilot.

You would think that James Carvell has hacked some forum members passwords



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1353 times:

Pilot Kaz,

Well I must admit that I do. Big grin
I'm also starting to get tired of all these threads. But on the other hand I agree with Alpha. The righties on this bord should hear some truths about Mr Bush  Big grin
I know this is one of the only political threadstarter Alpha has started so It's ok. But that other guy Rsmith is starting to become a pain in the ass. And I still wish they could post them in the 2 Official election threads we have made for this purpose.


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1352 times:



Welcome to the world of the "527" ad attacks, same thing can be said with Moveon.org, everybody was ok with that group & they are being financed by every Leftie Democrat. These "527" groups are disgusting and they will once again have to change the campaign laws, both sides are under attack.

Making a donation is not the same as being in bed with the Swift Boat ads, as long as the two groups are not working together, there is no problem. I can make a donation to the Swift Boat ads, it does not mean that the ads are being supported by the Republican part.

Now, the best that John Kerry can do is to find out where the money?? Wasn't to hard, the group released the list of donors earlier than required.






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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

When you look up and down the list of threads, it seems like the usual suspects merely rehash the Democratic talking points of the day. Don't you people have your own hate-sites for this drivel?

And, for a second time, Cwapilot adds absolutely zilch to the subject, but to do EXACTLY what I said people like him would do-attack the messenger.

Welcome to the RWAK's, Cwapilot. You definitely qualify. Woof Woof.


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

"And, for a second time, Cwapilot adds absolutely zilch to the subject..

..and if you add that to what alpha-boy adds to the discussion, the grand total = 0.


User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1328 times:

Well Jeff,

At least his grand total ends on 0. That is still more than your total of -1  Big grin

[Edited 2004-08-20 16:43:01]

User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1328 times:

What's an RWAK?

FILLER



Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1307 times:

I haven't read the posts, I get tired of the Alf's, the Jaysits, the Rsmiths on here that continually attack without asking questions.

Has John Kerry come out and refuted all of the material presented?

Have his lawyers threatened law suits to publishers and television stations for providing the book and commercials?

Could that convey guilt by aversion?

Did he get jammed up on something as simple as Cambodia? Yes.

Are there questions regarding his service and how he came about his medals?

Has the media taken the time (a la Bush/Guard Service) to investigate?
Am I surprised?

Interesting link:
http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc99.htm

Just going to get worse between now and Nov, and I love that Phucket picture.



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17508 posts, RR: 45
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1302 times:

Still....do I care about Kerry or Bush's military service 30+ years ago? Nope!


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1297 times:

Maverick, I agree with you on that one.

To me the point is very simple. Did Bush serve in Vietnam? Nope. Did Kerry? Yes. End of story.

Given Kerry's service IN Vietnam, the Bush campaign has no right to criticize his service since their guy never stepped foot in Indochina at the time. Therefore, end of story.



Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1286 times:

.and if you add that to what alpha-boy adds to the discussion, the grand total = 0

I started the thread. RWAK's like yourself and Cwapilot haven't even commented on it-just your same dry, useless, self-effacing junk. For a guy who thinks he so smart, you don't ever have much to say, except to make fun of others. Tells me one thing-you don't HAVE anything to say in defense.

James-I link to a respected paper, The New York Times. You link to Drudge. And you want me to take you seriously. Get a life. Woof Woof.

Btw. RWAK's stands for Right-Wing Ass-Kissers.


User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1286 times:

Boeing...you are a Kerry supporter aren't you?

Flippity Flop all in one post. Good show.



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1282 times:

James, and you're bucking for President of the RWAK's, Inc., with such worthless divel as above. Woof Woof.

User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1276 times:

What worthless drivel?

Where I point out that B757/767 agrees with Mav and then proceeds to outline his thoughts on the Kerry service questions...that aren't being done by the Bush camp?




Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineCaptoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1258 times:

Cry me a freakin' river.. Take your own advice and MOVE ON

User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

James,

Like all intelligent people, I see the bigger picture. An intelligent person actually can see BOTH sides of a story and come to his or her own conclusion without taking a hard line.

Exactly how is it flip-flopping that I agree with Maverick about not caring about the service but point out that Bush has no right to criticize Kerry on this issue? Either way, it should not be an issue in the campaign.



Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
25 Post contains links Spinzels : I haven't read the posts, I get tired of the Alf's, the Jaysits, the Rsmiths on here that continually attack without asking questions. I could tell y
26 Post contains links B757300 : Of course there is no proof that the SBVT are connected to President Bush except for the fact that one of their donors has give money to President Bus
27 L-188 : You know the way that Alpha1 obsesses about GW, he is going to give himself a heart attack before he gets a chance to vote against him
28 Slider : L-188, and God help us if W gets re-elected, the sumbitch'll have a total meltdown. Of course, I'm voting for either the Libertarian or Constitution P
29 Post contains images AvObserver : Excellent post, Slider, and I salute you for voting your conscience, regardless of your candidate's slim-to-none chances. I can't be that pure, myself
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