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Medical Personnel Involvement In Abu Ghraib  
User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 51
Posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1136 times:

Sickening. Isn't this the type of thing we're supposed to be fighting against?!

http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/4937998.html

To read the article in question (Registration required):

http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol364/iss9435/full/llan.364.9435.review_and_opinion.30574.1

That Abu Ghraib happened at all is an outrage. That healthcare professionals, who are ethically obliged to do no harm, participated is indefensible.  Pissed

Charles, SJ


The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1123 times:

They're still beating this tired drum?




That Abu Ghraib happened at all is an outrage.

Agreed, they should've just killed them all and been done with it. This whole pointless mess could've been avoided  Insane


User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1116 times:

Yes they are. There is something disgusting about medical personnel who are trained to relieve suffering who are revealed to be participating in torture. It seems little has been learned from the Nazi medical experiments in WWII...

Charles, SJ



The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1111 times:

It seems little has been learned from the Nazi medical experiments

...apparently not, as they would've then known to finish the job when done.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1108 times:

ConcordeBoy: Agreed, they should've just killed them all and been done with it. This whole pointless mess could've been avoided

It´s known that a large number (if not most) of the inmates in Abu Ghraib were people detained "on suspicion", often for being at the wrong place at the wrong time with no ill intent. Minors among them.

So you´re demanding a mass killing of innocent civilians!?

Yay! That´ll teach the world what America was all about...!  Nuts

Not even Bush is that stupid.

You´re just lazy and can´t deal with the embarrassment!


User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1105 times:

Cute, Concordeboy. But I'm not biting.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go to the airport and releave a little suffering.

Charles, SJ

[Edited 2004-08-21 18:48:45]


The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
User currently offlineScottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1104 times:

It seems little has been learned from the Nazi medical experiments in WWII...

Just a few differences between Abu Ghraib and those Nazi medical experiments. Looks like Bush really is a Nazi.

(For those of you who have trouble inferring sarcasm, I'm being sarcastic.  Smile)


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1092 times:

Minors among them.

point being?





So you´re demanding a mass killing of innocent civilians!?

In their case, couldn't possibly care less at this point. Nor am I alone in that sentiment... just the only one misanthropic enough to publically state it  Yeah sure





You´re just lazy and can´t deal with the embarrassment!

..of?

(or here, I'll save you the time: the only thing I'm embarrassed about is that the world's glass production hasn't yet exponentially skyrocketed  Insane)


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1087 times:

ConcordeBoy: "Hey, I´m miserable - why not let everybody else pay for it!?"  Nuts

Sure.

Next!


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1081 times:

It's okay, growing up in Europe and all... I can certainly sympathize  Big grin

User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1075 times:

Concordeboy,

Didn't you get laid last night or what?  Big grin
And yes it is okay to grow up here in Europe. You should have tried it. Maybe you could have learned something Big grin


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1071 times:

You should have tried it.

...amusing that you assume I haven't



Maybe you could have learned something

Ya mean like how to cave when the facing adversary? Abject socialism? To bathe less than daily?  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1067 times:

Ya mean like how to cave when the facing adversary? Abject socialism? To bathe less than daily?

Well by this statement I must give in. It sounds like you have been living in France for a year  Big grin

Hey by the way.... Do you know how many european countries who are helping US and fighting terror in Afghanistan and helping the US to find "WMD's" Iraq?? I'm looking forward to see your answer on that one  Big grin

[Edited 2004-08-21 20:16:50]

User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1064 times:

Ya mean like how to cave when the facing adversary? Abject socialism? To bathe less than daily?

And you forget how to be less pompous and arrogant.


User currently offlineRabenschlag From Germany, joined Oct 2000, 1005 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1053 times:

i get the impression that some fellow anetters suffer from narcissistic personality disorder. on one hand, i feel sorry for them being so much out of touch with reality. on the other hand, its just obnoxious.

too bad that theres no ignore button....



User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1045 times:

It sounds like you have been living in France for a year

...dammit, why must you make me relive that yet again?!  Crying  Crying



Do you know how many european countries who are helping US and fighting terror in Afghanistan and helping the US to find "WMD's" Iraq??

...sure, why?



And you forget how to be less pompous and arrogant.

*refer to above response*
...what part about France did you miss?  Laugh out loud







User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1041 times:

Cool!!!  Big thumbs up

Can you name them for me as well??  Big grin


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1040 times:

Hmm, of the bat... IINM, there were [originally at least] seventeen countries:
Americans, Bri'ish, Danish, Dutch, Germans, ThoseIDoNotSpeak(positively Laugh out loud)Of, Turkish, Australians, Kiwis, Italians, Bahraini(ans?), Japanese... prolly have to look up the rest.

[Edited 2004-08-21 20:42:29]

User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1030 times:

Thanks for remember us Danes  Big thumbs up
Your own Prez couldn't even remember us. hehe
Man I was pissed when he held that thank you speech, where he mentioned every country except for Denmark and one other country which I can't remember the name of.


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1027 times:

They're still beating this tired drum?

You know why don't you? Some Democrats are already planning their next move as soon as President Bush wins reelection. The plan is to attempt to impeach the President over Abu Ghraib. While they know the Senate will never get the 2/3 votes needed to remove the President from office, at least they'll get payback for what happened to Bubba.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1007 times:

Thanks for remember us Danes

Only been there once, but remember it was a pretty shweet place (colder than Satan's heart though)... wouldn't forget you types  Smile/happy/getting dizzy




The plan is to attempt to impeach the President over Abu Ghraib.

Sure, let them.

Absolutely nothing would come of any impeachment that would go through, and all they'd do was prove they'd been talking out of their arses with the whole "impeaching Clinton was a pointless waste of money" mantra


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