Luisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1361 times:
We are buying a new car, we went to the nissan dealership and we think we are going to go with the nissan patrol. We just have a few doubt.
The salesman says the the 2005 Patrol is the new design, but I dont see much difference only in the Lights and bumper. The current style has been along for about 6 years and I would not like that we would buy it and then in 2006 it would change completly. Does anybody know if the 2005 is really the new model?
TACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1278 times:
I strongly recommend you to visit www.nissan.com and send them a note with your doubts. When you or anybody else is investing some thousand of dollars in a brand new car, always request the dealer to put in writing the answers to your questions.
Northwest717 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1251 times:
OMG, WHAT EVER YOU DO DO NOT BUY A NISSAN! THOSE THINGS SUCK MONKEY @SS!!!!! We have owned 3 Nissans and they were all piles of junk. Why don't you go for a Scion? We bought one and they are reliable, great on mileage, and have a very intriguing look to them.
VH-KCT* From Australia, joined May 2001, 479 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1228 times:
Luisca, I owned models from the middle and late phases of the GQ Patrol, and that shape was around for well into 10+ years. The only changes were the lack of the big NISSAN written on the grill, and some decals on the rear quarters. I'd say it's quite likely the current GU Patrol will be around for at least 3-4 more years, and the only changes will be cosmetic and maybe engine upgrades (in Australia, Land Cruisers are now V8s).
I'm not sure what Northwest's problems were, but in 15 years of two different GQs - one auto petrol, one manual diesel (the 4.2, not 3 turbo) the worst we had was water getting in the electrics. It's generally accepted in this country that the Patrol and Land Cruiser are the best 4WDs regarding off-road ability.
Imonti From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1213 times:
My mother drives a Patrol, it is the GRX 4.5 manual ( pardon the spelling)
It has now done 150000km and she hasnt had a single problem, we have really put it through its paces and it always performes beyond our expectations, it has pulled a 4X4 tractor that has been stuck out of soft sand, so it does its job as a 4X4 as to the running costs. It has a 4.5 litre straight six petorl engine, it isnt light on petrol not at all. It is a big car and does cost mroe to run than a little car. If your gonna spend the money on that kinda car im sure you have the money to pay its running costs.
It is an awesome.
I have never had a problem with nissans, I had an X-Trail that I was in an accident with and im alive to tell the tale, the car started to roll at 100km/h.
Complete wrote off.
Test drive the patrol it is an awesome car. When they say the 2005 model, all the basically do is change the lights or somethign minor, generally when a car manufacturer is coming out with a new model they eather are very very quite or make a huge "noise." Mercedes has had a same S-Class for the past few years and each time they say its a new model when all they have done is change the odd minor thing.
Although the nwe S-Class is due out soon, cant wait.
Tsv From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1209 times:
Whatever you do DO NOT BUY A NISSAN PATROL.
In Australia the GU model has known problems including :
1. Early life turbo failures. Ours failed at 415 km. You remember the number on the clock when you see that white cloud of smoke. One country dealership where we had ours serviced had a whole pallet load of failed turbos. Root cause was alledgedly a machining fault supposedly limited to a particular batch (must have been a bloody big batch).
2. Fifth gear failures. We haven't experienced this (yet) but apparently it is also quite common.
3. Huge variation in fuel economy figures. Admittedly this one is difficult to prove however one dealer quoted me the variation (within model types) they had records of and it was just ridiculous. Possibly related to variation in quality control of engine manufacture. Our figures are quite accurate and they are (disappointingly) well below the average of the range quoted by the dealer for our model type.
4. Drive train shudder. This is a real pain and we have experienced this from early life and the effect is like the clutch is buggered.
5. Rear Door. The rear door latch continually looses it's locating bolts and is in constant danger of opening. A lot of people take the spare off (and have an after market bumber bar with swing arm for the spare) just to reduce the weight on the door so there is not as much stress on it.
The other problem is Nissan itself and it's Dealers :
1. Warranty issues. There is a continual fight between what is a "Nissan" warrantable item and what is a "Dealer fitted" warrantable (or lack thereof) item. Examples we have had are the second battery fitment and turret paint defect/deterioration. Needless to say they did not come to the party and fix them.
2. Service bookings, turnaround, and cost. It is almost impossible to book the bloody thing in to a Dealer and when they have got it they are not in any hurry to give it back and they certainly sock you for every little thing.
3. Sales people. We bought early in the piece and they forgot to tell us that the first couple of batches were fitted with smaller main and sub tanks than stated in the brochure. Wunderbar - combined with shitty fuel economy the lack of tankage means our range is down about 150-200 kms on others who have better fuel economy and the "proper" tanks.
Needless to say we will not be buying another Nissan let alone another Patrol.
N801NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
FWIW, Scion is Toyota's new "third brand" in the US. It is designed to sell small, sporty cars to people in their 20's and 30's that think Toyota is decidedly unhip. Of course, it is, and that's what I LOVE about my Camry.
Luisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1184 times:
I think we are gonna go with the Patrol, I love the Land Cruiser but it is just tooooooo expensive 65K (full extras: leather, s/roof, auto, diesel) the Patrol is 37K with the same extras, Although I just went to VW and fell in love with the Toureg. We are gonna wait tilll october, it is the International Car Expo in Panama City.
SA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1175 times:
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My mom has been driving her Nissan Patrol for 19 years now, 230000 km's on the clock. We have never had any major problems with the Patrol. Although it may be heavy on gas (petrol), she will keep it for a few years to come...
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Imonti From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1162 times:
Well if you have had so many problems with it, then it clearly was a factory reject.
To say I heard this model of car has a problem is like me saying, I wont shopt at a certain shop cause I was sold crap. Why not try it out for yoru self? Ok I will admit a car is a very different thing.
High_flyr69 From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1144 times:
Are you going to be driving offroad? if so from my experience the Patrol is a great choice, My Dad has a 2002 model 4.8 litre petrol engine and it provides plenty of torque and power for most situations. I would suggest however that you get 35 inch tyres fitted (TOYO all terrains are excellent) and a 4 inch lift kit. Also i would get the rear bumper replaced with a steel one as the standard is very soft and would struggle to fend of a bike without any damage let alone another car or even a tree when your offroad. The optional front bullbar is pretty good but if your are into hardcore 4WD you definately need something stronger that is mounted better as well. Inside the Patrol is excellent very comfortable and is equipped with a good stock sound system.
On the road the patrol is also an excellent car- difficult to park in tight shopping centre car parks but you get reasonable effeciency on the fuel and the cruise control is simple to use. the 8 seats (2 front 3 back 2 rear back) are all very comfortable.
The Patrol is a great buy overall but i would still voice my concerns to the dealer and i would definately make sure you are clear with the terms of the warranty.
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Northwest717 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1130 times:
We bought 3 DIFFERENT models in 3 DIFFERENT years, hoping that the next year they would get better. Seeing as customer satisfaction had been high, we bought two (96 Ultima & 03 Morano); in '97 my sister bought a Nissan (can't remember which one). Every single one of them were trash. After three months they started breaking down and it was awful. Everybody I know that has bought a Nissan has been extremely unhappy.
BTW, Luisca, if you go to www.scion.com you can see what they look like. Never will we go Nissan again, it is strictly Mercedes and Scions for this family!
NWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1126 times:
WHATEVER YOU DO, DO BUY A NISSAN! We've had a Nissan since 1992, 200,000+ miles, and no problems at all! It's amazing!
Word. We've run up 30,000 miles on the '02 Maxima we bought last year, followed the factory maintenance guidelines, and haven't had a single problem. Haven't even had to replace the brake pads. Plus, the 240HP doesn't hurt either... it's a fun car to drive.
If you have an experience anything like ours, you'll be thanking yourself for making the right decision.