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CBS News: Israel Spying On The US (classified Doc)  
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11151 posts, RR: 59
Posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2339 times:

Breaking News:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/27/eveningnews/main639143.shtml

Israel trying to control America's foreign policy. I'm not surprised...


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2329 times:

It seems CBS must support that spy. I'll leave you to figure out why, obvious as it is.

User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2317 times:

Trying?

User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2321 times:

It seems CBS must support that spy. I'll leave you to figure out why, obvious as it is.

Interesting eh????


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11151 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

Trying?

Nevermind. Big grin



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineLeviticus From New Zealand, joined Oct 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

Let the slaughter begin.

User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

Good, this will finally shut up all those morons claiming that Bush went to Iraq because of the oil.  Big grin


LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineKl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5084 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2253 times:

Next step Syria?

The are still the home of most of the worlds terrorists, and still occupy Lebanon. That will save Israel a lot of troops on the Northern border, which they can use to fight the terrorists in the Westbank and gaza.

KL911



Next trip : DUB-AUH-CGK-DPS-KUL-AUH-CDG-ORK :-)
User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

From the other thread, Richard Perle is a top neoconservative politician. He was serving in the Bush administration, and if I remember correctly, although I may totally be thinking of someone else, resigned after making some nasty comments about Saudi Arabia.

It seems CBS must support that spy. I'll leave you to figure out why, obvious as it is.

Not sure what you mean here, care to elaborate?

Israel trying to control America's foreign policy. I'm not surprised...

As if other countries don't??? The actions of the United States effect every country in the world--Especially Israel. And with Iran trying to acquire nukes to possibly destroy Israel, it is more than expected that Israel is interested in trying to figure out how the US will deal with Iran.

That said, it is no secret that there are deep ties between Neoconervatives and the Likud party in Israel. It would not surprise me if Cheney or Rumsfeld agreed to turn over the information. And you can be sure there is close cooperation between Israel and the US over Iran.

Trying

Jasepl, what exactly do you mean by that? I love how because the US takes the proper course and supports Israel against the rest of the Jewhating world, it is automatically assumed that Israel controls US policy. Try the other way around. The US can more or less dictate Israel's actions. The same can not be said about Israel.

Good, this will finally shut up all those morons claiming that Bush went to Iraq because of the oil.


Lol. Even better! All the fault of the Jews!


User currently offlineDamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 714 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

Most powerful nations spy.

Even on allies.

D.


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

"Not sure what you mean here, care to elaborate?"

No, something as obvious as that, does not require explanation. Think about it, instead of reacting to it.


User currently offlineJutes85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2170 times:

I love how only Israel has the intelligence to operate on this kind of level. Twisting and manipulating nations and forcing them to take actions that will benefit Israel. eg. Invading of Iraq.

I LOVE IT.

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2170 times:

Wouldn't be the first time.

Who is the guy that is sitting in the Federal Penn for getting caught doing exactly that a few years back.



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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

No big surprise, no doubt the United States has operative spying on Israel as well, its what all powerful intelligence nations do.


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User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2145 times:



>>Good, this will finally shut up all those morons claiming that Bush went to Iraq because of the oil<<<

Gosh.....I didnt think that their were RWAK up in the Great White North.

It wasnt only for oil it was to spead democracy in Iraq.......One more time the Iraq Attack had been in the planning since before even Jr swore he'd protect us.......

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Ran by the one and only Ex head of the republicans himself.........Billly Kristol.



Did You Ever Think Freedom Could Be this Bad
User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

I love how only Israel has the intelligence to operate on this kind of level. Twisting and manipulating nations and forcing them to take actions that will benefit Israel. eg. Invading of Iraq.

I LOVE IT.


Hahah Jutes, I seriously doubt that the US only invaded Iraq based on Israeli intelligence. Just look at Chalabi, or however you spell it, who turned out to have connections to Iranian intelligence.

While I understand what you are saying, you are giving fuel to BA and others who think that the Jews control the world and such.

No, something as obvious as that, does not require explanation. Think about it, instead of reacting to it.

First, how did that CBS article appear to support the spy? And what I assume you are talking about is the "Jewish dominance in the media" myth? Am I correct?


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Am I correct?

No, that is not what I was referring to.


User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2124 times:

No, that is not what I was referring to.

Sorry then, I am totally lost. I'm happy you didn't mean it that way because I agree with your posts most of the time!  Smile

Could you give some sort of clue about what you meant then, since I'm dense tonight.


User currently offlineJutes85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

I seriously doubt that the US only invaded Iraq based on Israeli intelligence.

I know it seems unlikely, but where do you think the US gov got the idea that Iraq had WMD? Someone had to be spreading some serious BS in the FBI and CIA.



User currently offlineYazoo From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

Who is the guy that is sitting in the Federal Penn for getting caught doing exactly that a few years back.

if you are refering to the other Israeli spy, his Name is Jonathan Pollard. he was sentenced to life.



Purple Pride!
User currently offlineTwinPioneer From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2069 times:

The nice thing is, the USA doesn't have spies. Hang 0n! How does GWB know where I live? Errr! Going underground now  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

Everyone nation spies to the extent possible. I don't know why anyone is surprised with this discovery.

I have one point to add however. Israel uses its perpetual victim status as a reason to throw out the rule book when it chooses to spy.

They stick to the old adage "desperate times call for desperate measures".

This was evident a few years ago when Israel committed one of the worst abuses of a sovereign country's rights when they admitted to forging Canadian passports for their spies to use.

This was a direct threat to Canadian security and our international reputation. Canada should have made a bigger deal out of it at the time at a diplomatic level. Personally, I think we should seriously limit Israeli nationals movement and entry into Canada.


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

This was evident a few years ago when Israel committed one of the worst abuses of a sovereign country's rights when they admitted to forging Canadian passports for their spies to use.

This was a direct threat to Canadian security and our international reputation. Canada should have made a bigger deal out of it at the time at a diplomatic level. Personally, I think we should seriously limit Israeli nationals movement and entry into Canada.


For once I agree with Airplay. Israel recently pulled the same stunt with New Zealand. Canada's should have suspended diplomatic relations temporarily and shut down flights between the 2 countries. Israel is WAY out of line when it forges passports.





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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

"Gosh.....I didnt think that their were RWAK up in the Great White North.

It wasnt only for oil it was to spead democracy in Iraq.......One more time the Iraq Attack had been in the planning since before even Jr swore he'd protect us.......

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Ran by the one and only Ex head of the republicans himself.........Billly Kristol. "


The only thing I have to say is a big fat "HUH?!". Which, judging by the lack of replies to your post, is what everybody else is thinking too.

P.S. Don't drink and post kids!


LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineFlyLondon From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

US spies on UK
UK spies on France
France spies on Russia
Russia spies on Japan
Japan spies on Australia
Australia spies on New Zealand
New Zealand spies on Canada
Canada spies on China
China spies on US

get the picture?

It's hardly a surprise and much to the indignation of the Canadians, I'm sure everyone forges other countries passports as well, including Canada. It's just the way the world works.


25 Jutes85 : For once I agree with Airplay. Israel recently pulled the same stunt with New Zealand. Canada's should have suspended diplomatic relations temporarily
26 Cedarwings : This makes me wonder if Israel is a real friend to America. I fully understand when Russia or China use these methods against the US, since it is a na
27 Jutes85 : but Israel? Why? Because they can. They spy on everyone and everything, Mossad wasn't created for nothing.
28 Cedarwings : Jutes, According to Webster, A traitor is : One who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty. Israel has betrayed America.... and
29 Jutes85 : How did they betray them? The US has spies in as many countires as Israel does, so what is the difference? Everyone spies on everyone else.
30 Yyz717 : This makes me wonder if Israel is a real friend to America. The strong US Jewish lobby will prevent the US govt from protesting this Israeli spying to
31 BA : Yyz717, Israel is WAY out of line when it forges passports. They do it ALL the time, it's nothing new. That's how they get spies into Arab countries w
32 Horus : Really none of this is surprising, as Israel was many times 'attacked' or hurt America. Here are a few to refresh your memory: Lavon Affair In 1954, t
33 Kl911 : Horus, And your point is? It's easy to copy/paste some stuff, but what do you mean? I assume you mean that Israel and the US are the two greatest coun
34 Horus : KL911, I think the post is pretty self-explanatory and the conclusion is quite obvious, but you can draw your own conclusion. And no it wasn't copied/
35 Iakobos : Horus, There is something misleading when one tells only part of what is perceived as the actual facts, then jumping to the conclusion. I do not say y
36 Iakobos : USS Liberty was not similar to the USS Pueblo of later North Korean fame, though they were both SIGINT ships. Liberty was a converted 7,750ton cargo s
37 GREATANSETT : All countries spy on each other, if we were going to jail people over it most of the US government would be jailed, the same could apply to many other
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