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Bride Of Charley, Hurricane Frances  
User currently offlineCumulonimbus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1273 times:


As you Know Frances will strike the Us mainland soon, I will be seeing the storm first hand as I leave tomorrow. I was just wondering If any A.net Members were going to be affected by the storm and if anyone had any storm related Questions for me, I will try to answer them the best I can if you do but I wish everyone the best of luck. I think it is sad that Florida Has to be hit by a double whammy of two very strong storms in such a short period. Good Luck to All.

Mike

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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

Hey Cb, I just had a terrible thought... What if Frances were to pull a "Floyd" and hit NYC dead-on as a Cat.3 at the end of the Republican Convention?

Like I said in the other thread, I hope she pulls a "Lili" instead and loses strength right before landfall.


redngold

PS are you with WBAL?

[Edited 2004-09-02 02:29:47]


Up, up and away!
User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7006 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1251 times:

I most likely will be affected but not have Hurricane force winds if it stays on its track. But from the lessons we learned from Andrew and Charley and the computer models are not always right. Hope to best for anyone in the storms path and the Bahamas who are getting hit now.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21129 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1245 times:

What if Frances were to pull a "Floyd" and hit NYC dead-on as a Cat.3 at the end of the Republican Convention?

It would be sign from above. Smile



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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

Interesting press statement today...


Praise be to allah! The Floridian Americans will now drown in their own rain! Iraq finally gets it's revenge. Unfortunately, as a result of this storm, I will have to cancel my Disney Cruise Line reservations for next month"

Naw, but seriously....my place in Orlando is gonna get nailed, I'm headed to Jacksonville next, then probably to alabama, gonna fly with my friend to get his plane out of Jacksonville. Montgomery, here we come!

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineJutes85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1230 times:

I know that usually, the only damage that occurs is it the trailers and smaller houses. But what about the multi-million dollar mansions on the beach front? I mean, people wouldn't build huge houses that would easily get demolished. Are there any damage to those builidings?

User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1221 times:

I know that usually, the only damage that occurs is it the trailers and smaller houses.

Dude, put the crack pipe down! Do a Google search and look at Homestead after Andrew went through! Country Walk (a supposedly well-built and expensive Arvida community) was flattened! Those weren't "smaller homes and trailers", they were large, site-built homes that fell apart.

Check out the thread below and look at the before and after pics of my large (3500 sq ft), site-built home.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/614061/

But what about the multi-million dollar mansions on the beach front? I mean, people wouldn't build huge houses that would easily get demolished. Are there any damage to those builidings?

ANY home can be damaged by a Cat4 - 5 hurricane - ANY home. People build large houses all the time, forgetting past history (Florida had gone 27 years without so much as a brush from a hurricane before Andrew blasted in, and 12 years beyond that before Charlie, and possibly Frances, hits back-to-back).

MxCtrlr  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Freight Dogs Anonymous - O.O.T.S.K.  Smokin cool



DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1210 times:

Most damage is done by inland flooding. BUT, if you take a home and submit it to constant winds around 140-150 mph, I don't care how strong it is, its going to fall. Those are tornado strength winds, not to be messed with.


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User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

I live in Sebring, Fl and work in Avon Park. We are right in the middle of the state but Charley proved inland damage could be just as bad. Look at Hardee and Desoto Counties, they got destroyed. If the storm continues on its current path my county will take a direct hit and I worry about a lot of the buildings in our area. All the mobile homes will be gone, most buildings constructed of wood, and older/poor built buildings will be all destroyed.

-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7955 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1201 times:

If Frances is the bride of Charley, she's looking to be *quite* a bitch.


If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1182 times:

Uuuh, I will be flying FRA-EWR-MCO on Saturday. Is there any serious danger of the EWR-MCO flight being cancelled?

I´ve never been in a hurricane so what do you guys suggest to do and not to do when I arrive?


User currently offlineNoelG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1181 times:

Likewise 9V-SPF - I'm flying LHR-MIA on Saturday direct with BA. We're meant to be staying at the Fontainebleu Hilton on Miami Beach for a conference (I'm on the events team), but I'm pretty nervous now.

Experienced travellers here have advised to pack some clothes/shower bag etc in my hand luggage as it's looking likely that we'll either get diverted or cancelled if the weather is bad.

Never experienced a hurricane either - so not sure what to expect! If anyone could give any more advice/thoughts on whether we'll be affected that would be great!

Thanks,
Noel.


User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1172 times:

9V-SPF,

I would say your chances of the EWR-MCO portion being cancelled is quite high. The current track (at 5AM EDT/02-Sep) shows the Hurricane coming on shore at around 0200 local Saturday. By well before then, MCO will be a ghost town.

MIA may or may not be closed down.

MxCtrlr  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Freight Dogs Anonymous - O.O.T.S.K.  Smokin cool

To all the Florida folks - Be watchful for flying alligators coming from Lake Okeechobee!  Big thumbs up



DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1170 times:

Here we go again. I hope everything up in Lake Wales goes good this round!

-Delta767300ER


User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1167 times:

So I have to prepare for involuntarily staying quite a while at Newark. Does anybody know about Continental´s policies in such cases (accomodation, rebooking)?

User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1167 times:

Me too, DL763, me too. And I hope all goes well for you in Sebring! Good luck, dude and keep your head down!

MxCtrlr  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Freight Dogs Anonymous - O.O.T.S.K.  Smokin cool



DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1160 times:

Thanks man, My house is very well built so I am not worried about it. We have an industrial generator at the house to so thats good. I will be riding out the storm here at the police dept where I work so I should be safe!

I will be giving constant updates on here if the internet connection stays up when the storm hits!

-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7006 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

NoelG,9V-SPF: Many airports will be closed. You everyone going to Florida on Saturday does not have to worry about going into a hurricane because you wont. The Hurricane will be gone by the time flights are allowed back in.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

>>So I have to prepare for involuntarily staying quite a while at Newark. Does anybody know about Continental´s policies in such cases (accomodation, rebooking)?<<


Continental is already offering a weather waiver I believe... you should call immediately to change your plans... at this point, you can count on MCO being closed on Saturday.



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineNoelG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1108 times:

Update as of 1500Z - most of the Eastern Florida coastline is now on Hurricane Warning, according to the National Hurricane Center (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/). Does this mean they evacuate?

Noel.

[Edited 2004-09-02 17:13:02]

User currently offlineVSLover From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1094 times:

well you can be damn sure no one in the important state of florida will really be watching the convention tonight!

i hope this storm doesnt turn out as badly as predicted!


User currently offlineTanyaluvs2fly From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1089 times:

I am flying BOS-TPA monday morning... and then driving to my sisters in North Port (sarasota county) wheee


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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1085 times:

Good luck guys...stay safe and dry, and don't forget about your pets!


But that was when I ruled the world
User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7006 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1064 times:

2.5 Million are being ask to evacuate in Florida. FLL will close 10am tommarrow MIA has not made a state ment.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8095 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1055 times:

Disregard.


[Edited 2004-09-02 23:22:15]


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25 Slider : CO will be cancelling flights beginning tomorrow. SOCC is working on the plan presently...stay tuned. Just heard on the radio that they're about to cl
26 Post contains images Mdsh00 : Slider, I saw that map of the hurricane and it looks enormous! Lets hope the people make it through. By the way...I assume you meant the I-95 since th
27 Redngold : Cape Canaveral and Kennedy Space Center have now been ordered to evacuate completely. Nobody will remain, not even a skeleton crew.
28 Post contains images MxCtrlr : Officially, MCO will close at 1200 local tomorrow (03-Sep). Who knows when it will reopen. SFB and ORL are closing at similar times. MxCtrlr Freight D
29 Post contains images Redngold : Good luck, everyone. Delta767 -- my grandparents used to live in Lake Placid and we went to Sebring for church and Highlands Hammock hikes. There als
30 STT757 : 9V-SPF, they will most likely notify you before you leave Frankfurt. But on the odd chance you do get stranded in Newark Im positive CO will accomodat
31 PROSA : Cape Canaveral and Kennedy Space Center have now been ordered to evacuate completely. Nobody will remain, not even a skeleton crew. Some security peop
32 PROSA : There may be some good news for Florida. Frances has already hit the Turks and Caicos Islands, and early reports say that damage was fairly minor.
33 9V-SPF : Thank you STT757, my EWR-FRA flight (CO392) has now officialy been cancelled. I will now call CO and try to rebook the EWR-MCO section on Monday. So i
34 NoelG : Well BA have cancelled tomorrow, so I'm now booked LHR-MIA Sunday on AA (J class as that's all that's available!) all being well....but even that coul
35 Post contains images NoelG : Now looking more doubtful we'll go - AA should still fly in but if the event in MIA is cancelled then it's a no-no There is a tropical storm brewing o
36 FrenchPilot : Well, now there's as well the tropical storm Ivan as NoelG was talking about. Living pretty much on the track that is making me worried. Hopefully it
37 TransIsland : I am writing from the western end of the island of New Providence/Bahamas. We are currently experiencing winds around 80 mph with higher gusts. It app
38 Tanyaluvs2fly : well i know delta/song will let you change your tickets if you are traveling to FL between the 1st and the 7th... I'm trying to figure if I want to ch
39 Post contains links Boeing7E7 : The rate this thing is going, this is going to make Andrew look like a bad thunderstorm. http://www.foxnews.com/images/137131/0_21_090304_frances_sat_
40 PROSA : The rate this thing is going, this is going to make Andrew look like a bad thunderstorm. If you read TransIsland's report from the Bahamas, it doesn't
41 TransIsland : Winds have increased over the last 90-120 minutes, we no longer have electricity (typing from a laptop), but everything else still works. There's virt
42 Post contains images OB1504 : Well, Frances has weakened to winds of 115 miles per hour, as of the 2 PM EDT advisory, and the barometric pressure continues to climb. I'm officially
43 Flymia : Francis is not going to be anything like Andrew. The 5pm advisory is going to be an important one.
44 ScarletHarlot : Hang in there Transisland - and stay safe, all you Floridians.
45 TransIsland : It looks like I may have underestimated her. Our local water tower is gone. We are still experiencing 100mph winds, and our local forecast says it's g
46 Delta767300ER : Trans, I hope your ok down their, I saw some pics from The Bahamas and things didnt look that good. Redngold, Its a small world out their! What church
47 JETPILOT : She is looking quite ragged.... She has lost all her deep convection around the eye. There is no more eye actually, or closed circulation. She is unde
48 L-188 : Isn't she down to a cat II storm by now. Hey Trans keep your head down.
49 Flymia : Trans: The water tower is down. Is that the one behind downtown or another one. That thing has been there for a long time. Hope everything is okay the
50 TransIsland : Flymia: afaik the downtown (Ft Fincastle) water tower is still standing. I meant the one in Lyford Cay (western end of New Providence island) I am bac
51 Flymia : Thanks for the pics Trans. Glad it was not to bad. I heard Grand Bahama Airport is under water. I think I hear 10 inches? Is this true.
52 TransIsland : I heard from Grand Bahama that the airport was 4 feet under water yesterday BEFORE the main storm reached - and I heard this from somebody who works f
53 Post contains images MxCtrlr : Well, I and my family are breathing a well-deserved sigh of relief that it wasn't worse for us. Our home (that was damaged severely in Charley) held u
54 Redngold : DL763, I think my grandparents went to Atonement Lutheran Church. My grandfather's niche is in their memorial garden. I remember it was a very modern
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