Whitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1999 times:
All it could potentially take is money.
I'm convinced he is in Dagestan or somewhere like that, being given room board and dialysis by some warlord type. For the right money they would happily rat him out.
Hill country Pakistan is just too primitive for someone with major health issues. He has to be somewhere he can be treated for them. That would fit with the Antonovs which left Afghanistan just before the Coalition hit.
Rsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 192 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1946 times:
>I'll bet the capture of bin laden lands within a week of the election. Thats just me.<<
Sad part of this is that many people couldnt see it for what it is.....nothin but a attempt to steal the election.....Bush cant win this one without some stunt.
Air2gxs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1920 times:
Fine, so what you're saying is that if we do find him, we do nothing because of the election? No, you think we already have him in the bag and are waiting the right time to spring it on the world. Let's see, how many people would that actually involve?
Well, The President and Vice-President, of course.
Secretary of Defense
A couple of "assistants to the secretary"
Theatre commander
Sub-unit commanders
The actual troops
Don't forget OBL himself and all his people
Oh yeah, and all the Pakastani forces that are in the area.
Yeah, I think we can keep that secret.
You know what? He's going to get caught sometime, maybe it will be tomorrow, maybe next week, maybe next month, maybe next year. It really doesn't matter, the President's enemies will always find a way to spin it.
L.1011 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2209 posts, RR: 10 Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1907 times:
You know Randy, you really come through as the brainwashed fool you are when you can say that a stunt is the only way Bush can win the election while he has an 11 point popular vote lead and a lead in the electoral college. His job approval is 54%, and no President has ever not been reelected with over 50% this late in an election year. Oh, and you know who was the last guy to jump straight from the Senate to the Presidency? John F. Kennedy. 44 years ago. A Kerry win would make history, and I don't see Kerry as any kind of history making candidate. No one is voting FOR Kerry, only against Bush. Kerry has no substance to his campaign other than "Bush Sucks Vote for Me!" and Senator Smilies as the runningmate. Of course the hardcore Dems and the brainwashed (like Randy) will vote for Kerry, but the swing vote isn't. The debates will give Bush a decisive and safe lead. Bush will have rock bottom expectations, while the "brilliant orator" Kerry will have the bar set very high. Kerry will have trouble keeping people awake, never mind actually helping his campaign. Bush will meet expectations by surviving, and, judging by the improvement in his oratory skills in the Convention address, should make quick work of destroying Kerry by one simple issue. Iraq. If Kerry goes pro-war, he loses the liberal base. They will flock to Nader, and probably push him above 5% nationally. That gives him federal matching funds and automatic ballot access in a lot of states, and it gives the Democrats a hard time for elections to come. If Kerry goes anti-war, the Lieberman/Miller style Democrats will flip to Bush. If Kerry can dodge enough and keep up the "yes no maybe bowl of mush" during the debates, the GOP attack dogs will slay him for the flip flopping. I just don't see how Kerry can win.
VonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4621 posts, RR: 40 Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1895 times:
You guys can't be serious. You think if they were REALLY close to catching him they'd broadcast it all over the media for everybody to see? That's like going on local news and saying you're going to rob a particular bank tomorrow. Give me a break.
Sept. 11 is getting near, people will be remembering... Nice timing to be "close" to nabbing OBL. I guess the raising the terror alert level game is losing its effectiveness.
United4everDEN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1894 times:
nothin but a attempt to steal the election.....Bush cant win this one without some stunt.
Maybe you all are just too thick headed. Why would we wait to capture bin laden at the moment before the election ends when we know where he is, and what in the world makes you think that JUST Bush has control over when laden is captured??? Morons...
Cadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1408 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1875 times:
I agree with the thought that Osama will be captured in the near future - possibly very close to Election Day (which would give Bush the election). As I recall, wasn't Bush's popularity at a low when Saddam was captured? Then if I recall correctly, he became popular again, albeit for short time. I think that the military, CIA, etc. knows exactly where Osama is, and possibly even has infiltrators with him.
Rsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 192 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1872 times:
>You know Randy, you really come through as the brainwashed fool<
I guess you might say there was 4700+ BWfools in MSG then....
I voted for Bush in 2000 because he SEEMED to be a man of integrity he has since proved otherwise......I wish those who accuse Kerry of Flip Flopping would take a look at there own Bush......youll find that you are a brainwashed hypocrite.
>JUST Bush has control over when laden is captured??? Morons...<
Like our intellegence agencys are that incompitant....Ill bet they know where OBL is within the size of the big Island of Hawaii.
DLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1871 times:
and what in the world makes you think that JUST Bush has control over when laden is captured??? Morons...
Bush... Control? Those two words shouldn't be used in the same sentence. Maybe if you replace the word "Bush" with "Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Delay, or Rice" Then we can talk.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1861 times:
Sorry guys
Will believe it when it happens,
We have been "Close" before remember.
Saying we are "close" is taking a risk if he isn't caputured, but I don't think the statements in the article mentioned where intended to indicate that we had him surrounded and where starting to pump tear gas into the cave.
Frankly I think the whole statement is meant more for Osama's ears rather then US domestic ears, if you get my meaning.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
Rsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 192 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1852 times:
This cartoon says it all....think about it and its not anti-Kerry in anyway.
Boeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1819 times:
It's just to fucking coincidental for me. When they get the son-of-a-bitch, I'll still pump my fist. But... this close to the election?????
I figured you would be smarter than to start this conspiracy horseshit.
If it turns out to not be the case then I will ask you for salt and pepper so that I can eat my crow. But to me, this is a rumor, not a conspiracy theory and it has been floating around for a while now. But, if it happens, I stand by my first statement.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12705 posts, RR: 80 Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1770 times:
You really think he's already, or about to be captured?
Remind us again of the effectiveness of the intelligence services, really saw Sept 11th coming didn't they?
Really got all those fearsome WMDs nailed down in Iraq didn't they?
With their record, if he is captured, luck may well play a part.
You may never catch him, if Pakistan cannot, in their own territory, what chance a bunch of US forces loudly going in?
Would it matter if he was, he's a figure-head, an inspiration to like minded people, certainly now if not before he was ran out of Afghanistan.
AQ are a very loose, disparate group, not some baddies all holed up in some secret complex like a bad James Bond film.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1757 times:
The people who think that OBL is allready captured as the same people who believe in "Black Helicopter" theories.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
Aviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 953 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1688 times:
If they do capture him right before the election, well, it will be obvious then, and that's a terroristic way of working folks.
Now, they have been saying that they are "about to get him" so many times before, and we haven't gotten him yet.
AZjetgeek From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 235 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1672 times:
I wouldn't put it past Dubya, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et. al., to pull of a surprise "capture" of Osama bin Laden within 2-3 weeks of the election. It's just their style. It will only happen if Bush's lead shrinks to 1 or 2 points or if Kerry regains some momentum and retakes the lead. Otherwise, we won't likely hear anything about OBL.
I also voted for Bush in 2000 because I believed he was sincere and could be trusted. I won't be voting for Dubya in '04. I'm supporting Kerry all the way. Kerry's focus is where it ought to be right now - an economy that stinks!
This is not to say we shouldn't be concerned about the war on terror. We absolutely should continue to track down bin Laden and his Al Qaeda assassins. However, that effort should have NOTHING to do with Iraq. The war on terror is separate from Iraq. As long as bin Laden is alive and free, he is able to continue to recruit for Al Qaeda. He is able to spin his message of hatred for the U.S. Translation: OBL is still the most dangerous terrorist on the face of the Earth.
Bush tells us we're a safer world with Saddam in prison and out of power. I would correct him on one account: IRAQ is a safer country without Saddam in power. The rest of the world is still one huge target for the world's worst madman.
Flyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3838 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1667 times:
Capture Of Osama Bin Laden "close"...
Bush has been "close" for 3 years now. He's full of hot air.
Never Trust Your Fuel Gauge
25 MD11LuxuryLinr: ~"It's just to fucking coincidental for me... But... this close to the election?????"~ How many millions of dubya haters predicted an OBL capture this
26 SESGDL: Wow, big deal. Catching Osama Bin Laden will do nothing to stop terrorism. People seem to think that terrorism will end with Bin Laden's capture. Two
27 Iakobos: No big deal, not so sure. He has done his time and is probably not leading anything of importance anymore, both because of reported poor heath and iso
28 Boeing nut: Wow, big deal. Catching Osama Bin Laden will do nothing to stop terrorism. People seem to think that terrorism will end with Bin Laden's capture. Two
29 Dan2002: Bush can win the election while he has an 11 point popular vote lead and a lead in the electoral college. Yea, and Gore had the popular vote too. -Dan
30 Slider: Wow, big deal. Catching Osama Bin Laden will do nothing to stop terrorism. People seem to think that terrorism will end with Bin Laden's capture. Two
32 Iakobos: Speaking about fallacies.... If you happen to practice a mental exercise called thinking, perhaps you would come to realize that OBL is not THE leader
33 Blackbird1331: OBL is in Siberia working at a McDonald"s. He is terrorizing the onions and french fries.
34 Iakobos: Does Mc Do allow its staff to wear beards ?
35 Itsjustme: Wouldn't surprise me in the least if we already have him and Bush is waiting for his advisors to tell him (big surprise there....Bush not thinking for
36 QIguy24: To be honest, I don't think they will ever capture OBL. He is to much of a snake. And he has is bodyguards watching him 24/7. And Should they be attac
37 Gigneil: Its not a conspiracy... just politics. N
38 ConcordeBoy: Sad thing is, even if by some miracle he is captured/killed any time between now and the election... ...Democrats would strive tirelessly to make it i
39 EA CO AS: I'll go ahead and say it - we'll never take this guy alive. Why? Because he knows to be captured will be to undo all he stands for. Consequently, if c
40 NonRevKing: ...Democrats would strive tirelessly to make it into a negative occasion. What a crock of shit. I'm a Democrat. I want bin Laden brought to Times Squa
41 EA CO AS: Bush has not administered justice. He's had the suport, motive, and means. He's failed, and I feel he's let us all down. He's tried to capture the man
42 NonRevKing: I'd hardly classify his being at-large as a "failure" by the President. It's an ongoing mission. We can put a man on the moon in 1969, but we cant fin
43 EA CO AS: We can put a man on the moon in 1969, but we cant find one on earth in 2004. The moon wasn't actively trying to not have a man land on it, though. It'
44 NonRevKing: So you're making excuses for us not scowering the earth for the man responsible for killing 3000 innocent American citizens on our own ground? Wow, I'
45 BENNETT123: Until we actually catch him, most of this is academic. Will he be found, I don't know, you would think that a guy over 6 foot tall with the most photo
46 ConcordeBoy: What a crock of shit. ....ah yes, just like they "didn't" do when Saddam was captured. Get real
47 EA CO AS: So you're making excuses for us not scowering the earth for the man responsible for killing 3000 innocent American citizens on our own ground? No, jus
48 NonRevKing: Haha you guys are incredibe... Everything is great...carry on! B