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User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1059 times:

Hey,

Some of you may know through previous posts that I am a rather serious vegetarian, no meat, not fish, no egs etc.... In the past (probably until 2 years ago), I used to enjoy my Mc Vegetarian Meal at Mc Donalds (there aren't many in rural Ireland Big grin), that was all until I heard about rumours that the French Fries contained a beef extract. As many of you may have heard, this has now turned out to be true.

It never ceases to surprise me how a company can sell and advertise a vegetarian meal when there is a meat extract in it? In all fairness, how can a vegetarian consumer make and informed decision on what to eat and not what to eat with companies such as these.

Here are some further examples:

--The Vitamin D in Vitamin D fortified milk commercial synthesized from slaughtered animals.

-- The vegetarian fajitas Taco Bell once served contained chicken and clam extract.

-- Taco Bell's 7-layer vegetable burrito, which is served with guacamole laced with sour cream, contained gelatin, a jelly-like extract made by boiling the skin, hooves, horns or bones of animals.

How can restaurants advertise food as being vegetarian /use Veggie and vegetarian in the meal's name and still have animal products in them? It just goes beyond me......

What is your view on this?

Kind Regards,
Jeremiah Teahan




Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
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User currently offlineDeltaRNOmd-80 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 994 times:

Don't eat at McDonald's  Smile I try not to as much as possible.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39706 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 985 times:

Vegitarianism and Mc Donalds are both bad!

I think it's bad how cattle is maintained at the large corporate slaughter compounds. I buy free range cattle beef when I cook. It taste great!  Big thumbs up
You should give it a try!
Don't deprive yourself of a nice juicy steak!

As for fast food, stay away from it!



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User currently offlineOH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 972 times:

I have a friend who's a vegetarian... of course that's relatively normal living in Weirdsville (Sonoma) County, California  Smile He eats stuff like Tofurkey (Tofu + Turkey, cute isn't it? Big grin), and stuff like that.

In the United States, there are guidelines as to what can be called vegetarian, but I don't know where they draw the line. As for keeping yourself informed, all restaurants are required to have a list of ingredients of what's in their food (especially chains like McD's, etc.). You just have to go up and ask for it.

Moi,
Kai



Head in the clouds... yet feet planted firmly on the ground.
User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 971 times:

Hey Superfly,

Ever tought of sticking to the topic? I have been a vegetarian for a good few years and definitely feel that I haven't missed anything!

I don't see the point in turning this into a vegetarian vs non vegetarian fight. At the end of the day, it is a matter of personal opinion!

Kind Regards,
Jeremiah Teahan




Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineVirginLover From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 958 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 961 times:

Teahan, rest assured... they USED to cook it in animal extract, but they now switched to vegetable oil and natrual flavorings. I found this info in "Fast Food Nation" if that helps. So eat your fries with a clear mind (but the arteries are a different story  Smile )

User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 955 times:

Ethical problems about what McDonalds was doing to one side, there is the additional problem that people who have been vegitarians for some time become unable to digest animal protein. It makes them ill-not seriously though, just a bad stomach ache. Still, you'd think they would be a bit more responsible about the food they serve...

Charles, SJ



The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 955 times:

Hey,

OH-LGA, the problem is that companies only have to mention "natural flavourings". A natural flavouring could be a natural beef extract.

VirginLover, yes but one of the natural flavours is a beed extract. The natural flavour is actually in the oil used to cook the fries.

Kind Regards,
Jeremiah Teahan




Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39706 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 948 times:

Teahan, this was in now way to be a fight.
I am sorry if I offended you in anyway. I live in a city full of vegetarians. I have heard every arguement pro & con about vegatarianism.

Best reguards
 Smile



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User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 946 times:

Hey Superfly,

You definitely did not offend me, it is just that everytime someone brings up vegetarianism, it turns into this big fight in one belief trying to convert the other belief. A perfect example was on a chat show on Irish TV tonight.

Kind Regards,
Jeremiah Teahan



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39706 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 939 times:

Oh I understand!

There would be no need for me to try to convert you to eating meat.
Now if it's a girl I am dating, she better eat meat! Big grin

A lot reasons why people here don't eat meat is for political reasons. I can understand why you'd cut meat out all together with the whole 'Mad Cow' scare.

There is a filthy town in central California named Colinga. That place has more cows than people. For several miles cows are crammed together, forced to eat fast so they can grow fast and be taken off to the slaughter house. It is so disgusting to pass this place up. It smells really bad!
I've considered giving up meat when I pass this place up.  Sad



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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 938 times:

You missed steak! What kind of a person dosent miss stake and hamburgers and pepperoni pizza!

User currently offlineBove From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 914 times:

Hey Teahan,

Are you aware that common ingredients in those little white pills in your medicine cabinet include things such as horse urine?



User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 906 times:

Dude, its McDonalds, what can you expect?? Smile I for one try to avoid mcdonalds now.
rgds,
blink182



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 908 times:

McDonalds Fries contain Beef extracts? What the f***?

I have been avoiding all beef for 6 or 7 painful years now (it used to be my favourite meat) for fear of BSE, and now this? I have half a mind to sue them.....

If only I could afford the lawyer  Big grin

I'm pissed off now. So what does Burger King do? Their fries are even better (and their vegetarian meals are actually edible, unlike McD's)? What about KFC?


Regards

Ikarus


User currently offlineDropkick From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 904 times:

About 40% of the students in my school are vegetarians (I'm not one of them), and everyone of them really hate McDonalds. Most of them are hippies. The city is known in Sweden as the "vegetarian city".

User currently offlineUSAirways737 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1026 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 903 times:

Why would anyone care about an extract being used? Its not like the fries were made out of blobs of hamburger meat. Anyone that complains about eating a micro-gram of animal extract obviously has nothing better to do. Whats the point of not eating meat anyway, animals are on this earth for a reason, to eat and enjoy.

User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 900 times:

>A natural flavouring could be a natural beef extract.

Exactly. There is a lawsuit gaining much attention in Seattle right now... some vegetarians are suing McDonalds for using beef extract in their fries.

Give me a break.


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 896 times:

Hey,

Well I definitely care. I choose not to eat meat in any form and that is it. You can be damn sure it is more than a micro-gram of it and even if it was, micro-gram or no micro-gram it is still meat.

Kind Regards,
Jeremiah Teahan



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineFP_v2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 890 times:

I think vegetarian people have a serious problem. All primates are ominvors! Open your mouth and look at your teeth. See those pointed ones?.......well they are designed for tearing and slicing meat. If you were designed to eat only veggies you would have a stomach that was divided into 3 parts like a cows is. I think you need to stop fooling yourself into thinking there's something wrong with eating eggs and meat because there isin't. Enjoy their great flavour and nutritional value while you still can.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39706 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 887 times:

Hey FP_v2, that just leaves more meat for us meat eaters!  Laugh out loud

It's just ironic that when ever I host a barbeque, suddenly all the veggies I know has exceptions to there rules!  Smile



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User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 880 times:

There is no way to be vegetarian.
Medicines, important additives; they all have animal bi-products.
If they sue McDonalds, they might as well sue the pharmaceutical companies, the FDA, and all other organisations that produce or approve of products that don't say 'THIS HAS ANIMAL PRODUCT' clearly printed on the label.




Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
User currently offlineTwotterwrench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 879 times:

I recently joined PETA.. People for the Eating of Tasty Animals. Vegetarians scare the s*** out of me... just ain't natural. If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 23, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 862 times:

Hey,

This is just the thing I didn't want this post to turn into! I mean, eating meat or not eating meat is people's own choice and can't you just accept that? 15% of the world's population are vegetarians and the number is growing fast.

Posted By FP_v2: I think vegetarian people have a serious problem

I rather think people who can't accept other people's beliefs and choices have a serious problem!

Kind Regards,
Jeremiah Teahan



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 24, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 851 times:

Teahan - Posted By FP_v2: I think vegetarian people have a serious problem

I rather think people who can't accept other people's beliefs and choices have a serious problem!


How can you not expect a comment like that? This topic was written by you about McDonalds having meat in their fries or whatever, were you expecting everyone to agree? If you hadn't of posted it he would have left you alone.

Anyway, back to the subject. Did you taste the beef extract? Exactly you didn't, There was next to nothing in there. You really can't live your life eating foods that have absolutely zilch meat bi-products or extracts. What are McDonalds to do? They try and deliver the best taste (not as good as BK!) at the cheapest price and as we all know they cannot please everyone all of the time.

Stick to eating Veggie Burgers and Cous Cous or whatever you like, its obvious that McDonalds are gonna have all sorts of shit in their food.

EGGD



25 Teahan : Hey EGDD, My point is simple, if there is a meat product in it, be honest about it and tell people. I will then be able to make a conscious decision a
26 Mx5_boy : Teahan, I would'nt worry too much about the crackpot comments from the peanut gallery of airliners.net, they do it in every thread. Your choice to be
27 EGGD : Teahan - Although you did not imply your topic to be a debate about Vegetarian beliefs etc but you have to respect that people are going to come out w
28 SR117 : I guess it's pretty hard to avoid being "tricked" into eating meat these days with highly processed foods, the only way to maintain such a strict vege
29 Post contains images Matt D : Let me just interject my $.02 here. First of all, I don't begrudge anyone for wanting to be a vegetarian. If they want to do that, so be it-SO LONG AS
30 Post contains images I Like To Fly : Perfectly said Matt! I would also like to hear what Teahan has to say about AerLingus' post. I bet Teahan does not realize those little white pills co
31 N400QX : Oooo... did someone say filet mignon? Damn... my mouth is watering at the prospect of a juicy perfectly prepared medium-rare filet mignon (or maybe Ne
32 Indianguy : I'd like to ask a question to all my veggie and animal rights activist friends out there: Is there really anything called 100% vegetarian? I personall
33 Ikarus : Funny how this turned into a veggie-bashing thread.... Anyway: Isn't the real problem that all food is processed? That there is hardly anything you ca
34 Bove : Altoids mints supposedly made in the UK contain beef gelatine as do most other breath mints.
35 Ikarus : Well, I don't eat anything with "gelatine" on the ingredients list, either.... Regards Ikarus
36 Marian Siegert : Everybody is complaining nowadays. Let it be the vegetarians, meat-lovers(like myslef) or others. I don't want to know what is inside what you eat. BU
37 Hairyass : You can run but you can't hide! Meat is everywhere! So eat that liberals!
38 Teahan : Hey, Mx5_boy, thanks a million for that post. At least you accepted my choice! I Like To Fly wrote: I would also like to hear what Teahan has to say a
39 LV-7772 : Well, if you're vegetarian... I don't understand why you would even go to McDonalds. Like the beef there is 100% lean fat meat anyway. I've tried it o
40 Post contains images LV-7772 : My mistake...I meant "it always looks good".... sorry PH
41 Matt D : N400QX: You are hereby invited over to my house next time you are in the LA area. I will barbecue those filets and prepare some side dishes that you w
42 Post contains images AC320 : For all those who are pissed about discovering meat traces in McDonald's french fries: "However, in the U.S., a beef flavouring is added in the par-fr
43 Post contains images OH-LGA : OK Teahan, You said earlier you were a complete vegan, now you say you are a lacto-vegetarian? I'm getting extremely confused here I have no problem w
44 Mx5_boy : Teahan, No probelms mate! You just be happy with yourself! Some of my favourite meals are vegitarian these days as just about all our good restaurants
45 An-225 : Yet another dumb comment from that nasty Hairyass. Get a life, pidor!
46 Teahan : Hey OH-LGA, Please find a post where I said I was a complete vegan? I eat milk products but no meat, no fish no eggs etc... Kind Regards, Jeremiah Tea
47 L-188 : We had a Veggie art teacher way back when I was in high school. Anyway he was kind of a nut with wasn't related to being a vegetarian. Anyway one day
48 N400QX : >I am the master of beef!!!! I don't doubt that one bit... lol
49 Post contains images FDXmech : Maybe its the beef extract in your fries that subliminally ward off your cravings for a fatty pastrami sandwich.
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