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More Than 4 States Of Matter? Re: Black Holes  
User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Posted (10 years 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1251 times:

Considering that most of the elements and compounds we've made or discovered have freezing, melting, and boiling points within a 10,000 degree range from zero kelvin, and that the plasmic effects may occur in the several hundred thousand to millions of degrees: what happens in the billions?

Or even the trillions? There much be so much disassociation that even the quarks themselves may come apart right? I want to know what can happen to each ions/anions charge while in the upper plasma stage if the temp continued to climb at temp extremes. What is going on at the acresion (sp?) disk of black holes where matter heats up like crazy as it is tightly wound towards the vortex?

Any theoretical/hypothetical guess are fine with me.


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User currently offlineScottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1232 times:

It's actually spelled accretion and after researching I can't find much besides that.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

What is going on at the acresion (sp?) disk of black holes where matter heats up like crazy as it is tightly wound towards the vortex?

Not a lot, it doesn't get THAT hot. To get to the temperatues you want (GUT temperatures), you'd need to go back to the Big Bang.


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1204 times:



User currently offlineARGinMIA From Argentina, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1198 times:

there are more than 4 states of matter:

Liquid-Gas-Solid-Plasma and "Bose Einstein Condensation" is gas at absolute Zero temp

Absolute Zero is -459 degrees Fahrenheit



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User currently offlineN808NW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1193 times:

Matt D; LOL, that's too funny. I cant stop laughing.  Laugh out loud  Nuts


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User currently offlineCannibalZ3 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1168 times:

Although my education is meager in this area, I think I agree with Matt D: I dont even know if there IS a theory for that, and even if there was we would have no way of proving it without massive, massive technological and innovative leaps. The friend that will answer your question is Jack Daniels.

User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1133 times:

I don't get Matt's joke. Unless there is something wrong with an attempt to change the tone in the non-aviation forum...

Actually I was thinking about machines we have that have opposites. Like the motor/generator, lightbulb/solar cell, electrolysis/fuel cell, etc.

Would the opposite of a nuclear explosion spawn a black hole, be it a small one?

I figure a system that has to create so much heat that the matter within changes state to something else we won't understand. It is probably the only reason why we haven't been able to duplicate that, due to us expecting it to fall into known categories.

My thoughts are for transportation purposes, FYI.




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