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Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.  
User currently offlineArniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1488 times:

Apparently a Dutch student from the city of Eindhoven solved an age old mathematics problem, looked for by mathematicians as far back as the ancient Egyptians.
Anybody (maybe our Dutch friends) know anything more about it and care to elaborate?
Source (in Dutch)
www.gva.be/nieuws/in_de_rand/

P.S. I certainly hope this doesn't mean I can't make no "Dutch people are stupid"-jokes anymore with my brother in law (born and raised in Holland).


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User currently offlineOV735 From Estonia, joined Jan 2004, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1471 times:

That's what happens if you legalize prostitution and weed. Big grin

User currently offlineArniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1462 times:

Just imagine all of the things humanity could come up with if we followed the
Dutch way of life!



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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

For those of us who don't read Dutch, could you please give us a summary of the problem, in laymen's terms?


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

A friend who was in some of my lectures at college is doing an MA or MSC in maths. How very odd she must be!  Wink/being sarcastic I can barely add up 2+2 (the answer's 5, by the way), let alone anything beyond that.  Wink/being sarcastic

[Edited 2004-09-13 01:58:26]


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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

Pe@rson....hey now. Big grin

/math major


User currently offlineArniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

As far as I can understand he made up a formula with which u can determine the 0-points in every mathematical equasion.
As I have to translate this into English I hope it still makes sense for you.



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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

Hehe, whilst on the subject of maths can anyone do 2x^4-x^4x^2-2x+3 / x^2+1.. I want to see just how wrong I got it  Wink/being sarcastic (I hate dividing big polynomials).

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

2+2 does equal 5 for big values of 2.

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1411 times:

As far as I can understand he made up a formula with which u can determine the 0-points in every mathematical equation

Wow, if this is true.. That is awesome, I wonder how soon it'll be taught in Math syllabuses...


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

EGGD -- something seems wrong with what you typed... I see x^4x^2, which would be x^6... Try typing it again.

Is it supposed to be (2x^4-x^4) (x^2-2x+3) / x^2+1 ?


redngold
(who's champing at the bit for some brain stimulation)



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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

0-points in every mathematical equation... Huh? You're not talking about intercepts, are you? Those are fairly easy to find...


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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

I think it should be 2x4 - x3 +/- x2 - 2x +3 / x2 + 1

?


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1390 times:

Hold on,

I'm absolutely knackered today so my brain isn't quite in gear..

2x^4 - x^3 + 4x^2 - 2x + 4 / x^2 - x + 1

Sorry I can't do you're 'pro' superscript,  Big grin. Dividing a polynomial by a quadratic doesn't sit well with me.. Don't worry if you guys can't be bothered, I can* check my answer tomorrow.


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User currently offlineArniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

Further info
The guy is called Geert-Jan Uytdewilligen ,a fourth year student in the Fontys-institute in Eindhoven.
Until now mathematicians where only able to solve Polynomes until the sixth degree but with his formula you can solve everything no matter which degree.
Sorry I didn't find an English link yet because it is still fresh news.



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1368 times:

EGGD:

2x2 + x + 3 + 1/(x2 - x + 1)


User currently offlineArniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

Just found a link for all of you who care

http://www.dse.nl/%7Egeertjan/Publikatie/The-roots-of-any-polynomial-equation.pdf

ENJOY



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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1350 times:

If nobody knows the answer except the Dutch kid, how do we know it's right?  Laugh out loud


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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1338 times:

FlyingBronco - Nice try, but obviously it can be proven by even the most mediocre of mathmatician. It takes a genius to work out a formula like this, but once its been found many people can prove it.

User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21485 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1302 times:

The proofs of the kind "it´s quite simple, once you´ve got the right idea..." are the most ingenious ones...

User currently offlineFJWH From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 969 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1237 times:

Yeah always those Dutch.............  Big thumbs up

Tjap  Wink/being sarcastic



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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

Looks like a joke to me.

I'm not in the field anymore for some years, but this demonstration looks like BS.

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User currently offlineKEESJE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

"That's what happens if you legalize prostitution and weed."

LOL

Actually, I graduated from Eindhoven in '95 & lived on top of a coffee shop for a few yrs there. I still remember the sweet smell in the kitchen when the window was open..

I didn't get very exited doing classes in the Math faculty, however I will send my comments on the matrixes to Eindhoven now, so they can further improve the polynomials in s after multiplying the denominator & substitute the powerseries more efficiently.

 Smile



User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1122 times:

"That's what happens if you legalize prostitution and weed."


Yeah, the problem is the guy forgot where he left his notes.



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