QIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1139 times:
When I read the headlines first I thought it was Randy that was on the run
But thank god nothing happened.
Cops Hunt Man Suspected of Threatening President
(New York-WABC, September 20, 2004) — Breaking news concerning President Bush's visit to New York. Eyewitness News is told that there has been a credible threat against the president Monday.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19708 posts, RR: 56 Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1003 times:
Simple fact of life is that the President of the United States is always going to be in danger. He doesn't have that huge security detail just for looks. That there was apparently a plot to harm him is attention-catching, but hardly surprising.
The NYPD is some of the best in the world, and they'll do whatever needs to be done to provide adequate protection.
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
Airplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 971 times:
Simple fact of life is that the President of the United States is always going to be in danger.
This is indicative of his policies. Bush will be in danger for the rest of his life and in my opinion, he has placed all Americans in more danger than before he was "elected".
This doesn't have to be. Canada's Prime Minister doesn't need an enormous security detail. He can be found enjoying a hockey game in regular seats. He can be found strolling the grounds of Parliament, which by the way is completely accessible by the public.
In short, nobody is out to get him it seems except for Bush.
LHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 51 Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 967 times:
This is indicative of his policies. Bush will be in danger for the rest of his life and in my opinion, he has placed all Americans in more danger than before he was "elected".
Not necessarily. President William McKinley was assassinated in Buffalo by a mentally disturbed man. Ronald Reagan was shot so John Hinckley could impress Jodie Foster.
He has a really high-profile job.
"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
Airplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 962 times:
Not necessarily. President William McKinley was assassinated in Buffalo by a mentally disturbed man. Ronald Reagan was shot so John Hinckley could impress Jodie Foster.
You've just demonstrated that the US in general is dangerous. Plenty of private non-presidential citizens are injured or killed in fairly arbitrary circumstances. And of course celebrity makes you somewhat of a target as well. Your observations are noted, but I'm not talking about those issues.
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15989 posts, RR: 59 Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 955 times:
Canada's Prime Minister doesn't need an enormous security detail. He can be found enjoying a hockey game in regular seats. He can be found strolling the grounds of Parliament, which by the way is completely accessible by the public.
Not true. The Cdn PM's security it very tight. He cannot and does not roam around at will. Parliament is like an armed camp with most of it off-limits. In other words, Canadian political security is similar to the US.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
Airplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 945 times:
Parliament is like an armed camp with most of it off-limits. In other words, Canadian political security is similar to the US.
What country do you live in YYZ717? Have you actually been to Parliament Hill in Ottawa? I have visited parliament several times including about a month ago. It has never been an "armed camp". Any visitor is free to roam the grounds freely. You can also enter the buildings but of course access to certain offices and areas are restricted. Much of the buildings are accessible on free guided tours but I wasn't talking about the buildings. I was talking about the grounds.
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15989 posts, RR: 59 Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 923 times:
What country do you live in YYZ717?
Canada. In one of the 2 "have" provinces that pays MB's bills.
Have you actually been to Parliament Hill in Ottawa?
Yes, last summer.
Much of the buildings are accessible on free guided tours
Only a tiny portion of the bldgs are accessible on guided tours.
Your statments are quite misleading.
Yours are. You are once again trying to paint a picture that things are TOTALLY DIFFERENT up here in Canada to further your agenda of positioning Canada as being completely different from the US in all ways, cultural, political and economic.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
Airplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 911 times:
Canada. In one of the 2 "have" provinces that pays MB's bills.
Talk about misleading statements....
You constantly post in terms of province against province. You can barely stand to consider we live in the same country. You constantly base your attacks on Manitoba when you want to debate issues with me.
You avoid debating the real issues by diverting attention to where I live instead of what I said.
What exactly do you plan to achieve by all this besides further convincing us that you really don't want to be here in Canada?
YYZ717, try to stick to the topic and avoid attacking people on the basis of where they live within the federation. It makes no sense.
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15989 posts, RR: 59 Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 876 times:
MB has been a have-not province for over 20 years. It is a fiscal burden on Canada, along with Quebec and Atlantic Canada. ON and AB contribute fiscally to Canada. BC and SK are marginal net recipients of federal aid.
Of course MB is part of Canada but they are not pulling their fiscal weight and are being subsidized by ON and AB. This weakens Canada.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
Airplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 834 times:
Another example of YYZ717 making noise for the sake of being heard. Why can't you stay on topic? I could sink to your level and start attacking Ontario, but to what end? I have nothing against Ontario or any of the provinces in our great country. Even if it does allows fascists to live there.
Your simplistic view on the economy of this country doesn't seem to support you claim that you are a "Director of Finance".
But I digress to the REAL topic....
Further to comparisons between the protection of leaders, Paul Martin visited Winnipeg yesterday. He walked around with visible albeit minimum security. He made speeches, walked down the street and even walked by protesters without the need for close support from body guards. He shook hands (but I didn't see him kiss any babies) in full view of "God and everyone".
Mdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4097 posts, RR: 9 Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 810 times:
So why the big difference?
I don't think any Canadian PM has ever been assasinated. Forgive me if I am wrong.
On the other side, over here...we'll it's been definitely been more than that. After the assasination of Kennedy, presidential security has become very tight. After that day, future presidents never rode in convertibles.
When you are the leader of currently the most powerful nation in the world, there are going to be a lot of people out there who don't like you. Both in and out of the national borders. Therefore the security is necessary and Bush has nothing to do with it.
BTW: Anna Lindh was assasinated by a lunatic. Does that make Sweeden a dangerous country?
[Edited 2004-09-24 18:54:27]
"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
Airplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 780 times:
When you are the leader of currently the most powerful nation in the world, there are going to be a lot of people out there who don't like you.
Power makes you unlikable? I would suggest that several leaders of much less powerful nations in the world are in much more danger of being attacked or assasinated than the US president.
As a matter of fact, there are several examples in recent history. So I don't think its "power". I think its "policy".
Mdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4097 posts, RR: 9 Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 776 times:
As a matter of fact, there are several examples in recent history. So I don't think its "power". I think its "policy"
Then what explains the high security around Presidents like Carter or Clinton. Both were well liked around the world, yet they kept up their guard. I'm sure part of the reason are our policies in the past that have made any president hated, whether or not he's president at the time, but that is not the only factor. Yes I do think power makes someone not as liked as someone who is not as powerful.
"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
JAXpax From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 769 times:
Julie finally realized it was no longer the 1970s.......
25 MartinairYYZ: If you like killing people for no reason and making the world a chaos-hole, you should expect people to want to kill you and the chop you up and feed
26 ZKSUJ: The President of the USA is the most powerful man in the world. So of course he is going to be in danger. It doesn't matter if it was Bush or someone
27 Airplay: the President of the USA will always have people opposed to him and what he stands for. That is true of anyone in the world especially heads of state.
28 L.1011: If you like killing people for no reason and making the world a chaos-hole, you should expect people to want to kill you and the chop you up and feed
29 ZKSUJ: Airplay-there are many people in the world who are not the most phsycologically functional. They will do anything to get their way. Some may feel so s
30 Airplay: Airplay-there are many people in the world who are not the most phsycologically functional. They will do anything to get their way. Some may feel so s
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